IBKFergus is leaving ;-(

"Chakolate" wrote in message
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"Yowie" wrote in
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I don't want to do this, but don't have much choice. For no reason i
or Joel can fathom, IBKFergus just ripped my thumb to shreds. Its that
bad, i can't use my right thumb to type.


When I first got Doc, he was a love, but after a couple weeks, he started
biting. You only bite the ones you love, and he *really* loved me. It
got to the point where I was thinking of finding him somewhere else to
live, when I was told to get a second cat.

Pi taught Doc, by example, how hard was too hard to bite. They exercised
all their aggressive behavior on each other, and saved their cuddles for
me.

Obviously you can't keep him in the same area as your son, but can you
keep him separated and see if a second cat will help?

She tries to wrestle Shmogg. Shmogg is *at least* twice her weight and size,
and wins exceptionally quickly. She would have probably been better off with
a littermate, but when I found her, she was by herself, so no litter mate to
take her agression out on.

We *aren't* getting a third cat.


If you can't, don't despair of finding him a new home. There are those
of us out there who don't mind a biter, especially if he's a good mouser.

She is an *excellent* huntress, no greeblings in my house. No mousies, no
bottle caps, no fuzzy rattles, nothing even remotely 'huntable' survives in
my house (except perhaps under the fridge) either.

Yowie

Monique Y. Mudama wrote:

I'm not sure why everyone has amnesia about this, but people:
IBKFergus is a girl. And Yowie has referred to her as "she." So
please stop with the "he/him" references.


I think I started it because I didn't think a name of "Fergus" would be
a girl, but I corrected it when I read the next post that said "she." I
didn't think it would be upsetting to anyone other than the cat's owner!

Rhonda

I wish her the best. Will the AWL let you know how she's doing?

Rhonda

Yowie wrote:

The Animal Welfare League does not put down healthy animals. Thats why I
picked them. They'll find a suitable fosterer until she finds a forever
home. I wish that foreverhome was with us... but it can't be.

Yowie

On 2006-05-22, Rhonda penned:
Monique Y. Mudama wrote:

I'm not sure why everyone has amnesia about this, but people:
IBKFergus is a girl. And Yowie has referred to her as "she." So
please stop with the "he/him" references.


I think I started it because I didn't think a name of "Fergus" would
be a girl, but I corrected it when I read the next post that said
"she." I didn't think it would be upsetting to anyone other than the
cat's owner!


Maybe I'm overly sensitive to it, as I have a female cat named Oscar.

--
monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully

pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca

Yowie wrote:
I don't want to do this, but don't have much choice. For no reason i or Joel
can fathom, IBKFergus just ripped my thumb to shreds. Its that bad, i can't
use my right thumb to type.

Now I've wrestled with Shmogg all his life and I've had my fair share of
scratches and bites, but never this deep, and never without severe
provocation first.

The deepest cut extends right from the base of my thumb all the way around
to the thumb to the knuckle - about two inches of deep cut, with other
scratches parrellel to it.

This *cannot* happen to Cary, who, being a 2 year old boy, does provoke her.
If it was Cary's thumb, he'd behaving reconstructive surgery to have it
reattached about now. the clawing is *that* severe.

I'd like her to go to a home with people used to ex feral and feral cats. A
home that doens't have children, a home that won't make her the nervous
skitty cat she is here. She is an *excellent* hunter and would be most
suited to barn life rather than a house cat or pet, She has never been
intered in receiving any affection from us, althogh will occasionally
discover how much she likes it if we 'force' it on her. She does, however,
answer to her name.

The Cat Protection Society might take her - theres a lady here in my suburb
that lean me a crate when IBKFergus first got here. If not, I'll try the
Humane Society. Failing that, I'll take her back to work where the rest of
her family is. I don't like the idea of dumping cats, but she'll have a
better chance there than at the RSPCA. The RSPCA do a great job in many
ways, but if I say that she's vicious, and I feel duty bound to mention it,
they'll deem her 'unadoptable' and just euthanise her because they can't
home her forever. And I don't want her euthanised.

Please purr she finds a home more suitable to her wild nature (if you know
of one around Wollongong, Australia, please let me know). Every extra hour
here increases the risk she might severely hurt and/or maim Cary, so she's
got to go ASAP. Tonight, sadly, will be her last night here.

Even though my thumb is throbbing, and I know that this is what we have to
do for Cary's sake, I am *heartbroken*. I just hope she can find a home that
will be able to provide her with whatever it is she needs to become a lap
fungus. I feell like *such* a traitor, a failure, a bad parent etc etc.

And then I have to explain to Cary why his fursister and Evil Overlord is no
longer around.

in tears,

Yowie


I can't imagine the hurt, both physical and emotional of having to come
to such a decision. Purrs that a more appropriate home for IBKFergus
come up immediately and consoling and comforting purrs for you and your
family.

--
Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe

Perhaps I was too ambitious to take on a feral cat. I dunno. I'll
miss her alot, even though she was never affectionate, and a PITA
most of the time. I still loved her

bawling

*hug* Yowie. I don't know what to say. I gave up Eros because Eric
was allergic to him, and Eric was in the hospital (impossible to know
if the two were related), and Oscar was terrified of Eros. Could
someone with a lot of time and knowledge have resolved the situation?
Maybe. But I couldn't at the time. I was just overwhelmed.

In my case, I was lucky because Eros was the easy-going,
love-everybody cat, so I knew he would be adopted. Still it was
heartbreaking, and I'll never feel quite right about it.

I've never had a child, so I can't identify with everything you're
feeling. But I imagine it's a horrible position to be in, and if
something happened to Cary and you had some inkling in advance, you
would never forgive yourself.

--
monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully

pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca

"Yowie" wrote:
Even though my thumb is throbbing, and I know that this is what we have to
do for Cary's sake, I am *heartbroken*. I just hope she can find a home that
will be able to provide her with whatever it is she needs to become a lap
fungus. I feell like *such* a traitor, a failure, a bad parent etc etc.

And then I have to explain to Cary why his fursister and Evil Overlord is no
longer around.

I'm so sad to hear about IBK! I can understand that cats are complex,
and aren't always completely predictable, deterministic systems.
You've had to weigh the odds to make this decision. But I hope that
you aren't *too* hasty in choosing how and where to relocate her -
those same odds show Cary's having been unharmed by her all this time,
so as long as you keep them separated, hopefully you can safely buy
some more time to find her a forever-home?

wrote:

I have to admit that this went through my mind as a possible solution
for IBKFergus's aggression. But I don't know which would be more cruel,
euthanization or declawing.

I think people have come up with a number of creative ideas that don't
involve either of the above, so I hope that a good solution is found!!

If I absolutely had to make a choice between the two, it would be
declawing - I'm they can still live happy full lives, just as cats who
are blind or missing a leg can, but I kind of doubt that this would
help. If IBK is just aggressive, wouldn't that turn her into a biter,
which would be worse?

"Yowie" wrote in
:

She is an *excellent* huntress, no greeblings in my house. No mousies,
no bottle caps, no fuzzy rattles, nothing even remotely 'huntable'
survives in my house (except perhaps under the fridge) either.


(with apologies for calling her a 'he') Then you should try not to worry
about her - she'll find a home. Hugs to you, though, because no matter
how much trouble she was, you'll miss her.

Chak

--
There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought
to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty.
--John Adams

Mishi wrote:
On Sun, 21 May 2006 22:01:29 +1000, "Yowie"
wrote:

I don't want to do this, but don't have much choice. For no reason i or Joel
can fathom, IBKFergus just ripped my thumb to shreds. Its that bad, i can't
use my right thumb to type.

Now I've wrestled with Shmogg all his life and I've had my fair share of
scratches and bites, but never this deep, and never without severe
provocation first.

The deepest cut extends right from the base of my thumb all the way around
to the thumb to the knuckle - about two inches of deep cut, with other
scratches parrellel to it.

This *cannot* happen to Cary, who, being a 2 year old boy, does provoke her.
If it was Cary's thumb, he'd behaving reconstructive surgery to have it
reattached about now. the clawing is *that* severe.

I'd like her to go to a home with people used to ex feral and feral cats. A
home that doens't have children, a home that won't make her the nervous
skitty cat she is here. She is an *excellent* hunter and would be most
suited to barn life rather than a house cat or pet, She has never been
intered in receiving any affection from us, althogh will occasionally
discover how much she likes it if we 'force' it on her. She does, however,
answer to her name.

The Cat Protection Society might take her - theres a lady here in my suburb
that lean me a crate when IBKFergus first got here. If not, I'll try the
Humane Society. Failing that, I'll take her back to work where the rest of
her family is. I don't like the idea of dumping cats, but she'll have a
better chance there than at the RSPCA. The RSPCA do a great job in many
ways, but if I say that she's vicious, and I feel duty bound to mention it,
they'll deem her 'unadoptable' and just euthanise her because they can't
home her forever. And I don't want her euthanised.

Please purr she finds a home more suitable to her wild nature (if you know
of one around Wollongong, Australia, please let me know). Every extra hour
here increases the risk she might severely hurt and/or maim Cary, so she's
got to go ASAP. Tonight, sadly, will be her last night here.

Even though my thumb is throbbing, and I know that this is what we have to
do for Cary's sake, I am *heartbroken*. I just hope she can find a home that
will be able to provide her with whatever it is she needs to become a lap
fungus. I feell like *such* a traitor, a failure, a bad parent etc etc.

And then I have to explain to Cary why his fursister and Evil Overlord is no
longer around.

in tears,

Yowie



Hi Vickie,

Is this just clawing, or biting also? If so, can you get her declawed
and defanged - I know it is a major undertaking, and not so mething I
would normally suggest, as I find cruel and barbaric, but it means her
life, and Cary's heart. How much is it to have a declaw there?
Defanging is sometimes done to dogs - we considered having it done to
one of our bostons. They can't inflict much damage with their comb
teeth.

My heart goes out to you, Joel and Cary.

Patti

Declawing would not be a solution. She would just turn into a biter.
This post makes me want to cry.

Sherry