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HOWEDY racetrack silly, you pathetic miserable stinkin
rotten lyin animal murderin punk thug coward active accute chronic life-long incurable malignant maliciHOWES MENTAL CASE and shelter / rescue FRAUD an SCAM ARTIST, "sighthounds & siberians" wrote in message ... On 27 Apr 2008 14:44:55 -0400, (Melinda Shore) wrote: In article , Paul E. Schoen wrote: Still, I contend that a dog will not "run away" if he/she is secure and happy in the owner's environment, and there are cases where a dog has been able to find its way home from hundreds of miles away. Yeah. LIKE THIS: From: Melinda Shore Date: Tues, May 9 2006 2:21 pm Email: (Melinda Shore) In article , Ilja Friedel wrote: You can never stress enough what dangers threaten the average dog (cougars, bears, snakes to name a few). Many, many years ago I used to take my (I thought) well-behaved, well-trained dog out on the trail off- leash. One evening as it was getting dark she saw a deer she wanted to chase and took off. As in gone. So there we were, wandering around in the dark for several hours trying to find a dog that could have run 20 or more miles in the time it took to finally find her. That was the end of off-leash hiking for us. It doesn't even have to be an attack for bad things to happen to your dog. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community ------------- BWEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHAAA!!! Maybe some dogs are mentally or genetically challenged and have lost their homing instinct and biological GPS. Yeah. LIKE THIS: Subject: prong collar caution In article Vu92j.7651$r81.6487@trndny05, filly wrote: Don't you love it when the dogs do everything right and someone is actually watching! Well, it's going to take a lot of doing everything right and frankly a lot of training to make up for early last week, where someone was walking her Australian Shepherd cross along the road as we came up the section of trail that paralleled it. My dogs went nuts, pulling towards them and barking their heads off (and they rarely bark). Ideally I'd be able to park the rig and pull the dogs around, but even though I had the brakes locked on the rig they were still pulling it. So, I knew that if I got off the dogs would take off after her. I dropped the snow hook, which I've been using as a ground brake, but it landed prong-side up and that only compounded the problem because as the dogs were pulling us forward the snow hook was coming under the rig and the prongs were inching towards the tires, which would have been shredded (snow hooks: http://www.nooksackracing.com/dog_sl...es_hooks.html). This poor woman was clearly trying to pretend that a team of four dogs wasn't barking their heads off at her, trying to pretend that they weren't trying to come over for a visit, trying to pretend it was just a normal walk down the road. And in the meantime my dogs effectively got away with really bad behavior. So, a friend is coming over today to be an attractive nuisance on the trails while we work on "on by," and yes, I was pleasantly surprised when the dogs didn't try to go visit Tom, standing in the hedgerow. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community BWEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~! You're often spouting about Muttley's possible Anatolian ancestry That's breed RACISM and the CAUSE of BREED SPECIFIC ANTI-DOG LEGISLATION {}: ~ ( and how that plays into his temperament and behavior. That's BULL****. A dog is a DOG. Do you suppose that Muttley is unique in that respect and that other dogs aren't similarly influenced? On accHOWENTA your own dogs RUN HOWET on you, racetrack silly? Do some research on other breed traits - northern breeds, sighthounds, scenthounds - before making ill-informed statements that make you sound stupid. You're the ignorameHOWES who BELIEVES sightHOWENDS can't be trained to not run HOWET on their abusers {}: ~ ( Your conention is pure, unmitigated bull****. paulie is WRONG, as stated, racetrack silly, but NOT for what he SEZ, but rather, HOWE he arrives at it {}: ~ ( You, on the other hand, are just plain DEAD WRONG. Mustang Sally WHO'S THE MENTAL CASE, People?: From: sighthounds etc. ) Subject: another eevil pit bull story Date: 2003-10-08 09:12:56 PST On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 10:33:44 -0500, Gwen Watson wrote: culprit wrote: "sighthounds etc." wrote in message ... ADD and OCD are mental illnesses? oh, BTW... http://www.nami.org/Content/Navigati...al_Illness.htm -kelly Yep there it is NAMI. And yes ADHD or ADD or considered as a mental illness in which one can apply for many different things even in the work force in which they are suppose to accomodate you to help improve your condition. But I don't care to go there so I am one of those untreated ADHD people in the world. Whatever I am nearly 50 and have gotten along just fine. Or so I feel fulfilled. I guess this is just one of those instances in which I feel that the US is turning into a nation of victims. And please, don't anybody jump all over me, because I am not talking about anyone personally. Everything seems to be a compensatable (not sure if that's actually a word) disability. If 3/4 of the people are physically disabled or mentally ill, what's 'normal'? Terrible parents, painful childhoods, physical illnesses, psychological problems, etc. are all part of who a person is, and therefore how s/he sees the world and interacts in it. But life isn't about who you are and what you've got, it's what you do with it. For me anyway, the more I think of myself as partially disabled, the more I am that way. Sorry, I don't mean to sound like Dr. Phil. Mustang Sally --------------------- BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~! Who's the LIAR, People?: Here's racetrack silly who's "SHELTER" MURDERS 67% of their RESCUE dogs: From: Date: Tues, May 24 2005 3:06 am sighthounds & siberians wrote: On 23 May 2005 10:41:59 -0700, TheAmazingPuppyWizard @Mail.Com wrote: HOWEDY racetrack silly, sighthounds & siberians wrote: On 21 May 2005 19:23:51 -0700, wrote: major snippage I'm neither a trainer nor an expert, RIGHT. But you ARE a mentally ill lying dog abusing punk thug coward and president of the GH RESCUE that MURDERS 66% of their RESCUE dogs. Are you reading this, Lucy? The above is a flat-out lie. From: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...ior/msg/b51f2b... It probably wouldn't hurt, and a dose of reality might be helpful, too. I'm president of the board of our local shelter. The new board has almost succeeded in pulling the APL out of financial ruin, and very soon now we'll be able to turn our attention to making improvements in our shelter, increasing adoptions, etc. We are in the largest county in our state, and it's also one of the poorest. We take in around 3,000 animals a year and euthanize two- thirds of them. Nope. No lie. Two thirds=66%. Actually, closer to 67%. IS that really what "rescue" means, Sally? Killing 2 out of every 3 dogs one "rescues"? Geeez! Does that matter to you at all, or is it OK for Jerry to make up whatever **** he wants to 'support' his lunatic claims? What exactly was "made up" by Jerry, then? The part about your "mental illness"? Why, you call him "lunatic", so you're both even on that. Though I still can't help wondering how "sane" someone who loves dogs can be when running a shelter that puts down two thirds of the dogs it "rescues". Mustang Sally (disgusted) Lucy (likewise) ---------------------- BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~! Who's the LYIN DOG MURDERIN MENTAL CASE,People?: "After Numerous Training Classes, Behavioral Consultations, And Hundreds Of Dollars In Vet Bills, I Killed My Dalmatian Several Years Ago Due To Extreme Dog-Aggressiveness." From: sighthounds & siberians Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 09:27:10 -0400 Subject: Dog defecates during walks Clearly, my stating the facts is not enough for Lucy; perhaps she needs some sort of tangible proof, or perhaps she thinks Jerry knows what I do better than I do. In either case, she's proven herself incapable of reason, and therefore a waste of time. Mustang Sally "After Numerous Training Classes, Behavioral Consultations, And Hundreds Of Dollars In Vet Bills, I Killed My Dalmatian Several Years Ago Due To Extreme Dog-Aggressiveness." "I'll bet you don't know a thing about me. I volunteered as assistant to the euthanasia tech at our local shelter for a while, and I know a bit about overpopulation and unwanted animals. This however has nothing at all to do with responsible breeders, because responsible breeders don't contribute to that problem," Mustang Sally. "Sally Hennessey" wrote in message ... Nope. No more than you'd convince Patch that prongs and e-collars, in the right hands, are not intrinsically abusive; or that dogs trained properly with prongs or e-collars are not fearful, in pain, or intimidated; or that any one of us here knows our own dogs and their reactions better than someone who has never seen them or us...hmmm. I'm starting to see some similarities here. Sally Hennessey Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 13:23:46 Subject: shock collars Sally Hennessey wrote in message ... Aside from being incredibly offensive and self-righteous, this post shows and absence of knowledge in the differences in dogs' temperaments, or perhaps a lack of ability to perceive same. The fact that you, Alison, have never met a dog to whom corrections and discomfort, even pain, were unimportant does not mean that such dogs do not exist. What it means is that you don't know as much about dogs as you think you do, and you surely don't know a damn thing about Harlan or anyone else's dog here. I had a Dalmatian that would instigate fights with one of her housemates; that dog had no fear or anything, and pain incurred during a fight meant nothing to her. I know that that dog is not unique, and I'm sure many people here can tell similar stories. The fact that you, Alison, continue to say things to people such as what you said to Theresa about causing her dog to suffer (at least I guess that's what you meant by "you cause your dog suffers" - - must be the King's English you guys talk about over there) means that you are an ignorant, arrogant, insensitive person who is not worth further notice. Sally Hennessey From: sighthounds & siberians Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 09:48:00 -0400 Subject: Fencing It's astounding. We used livestock electric fence at the bottom of our fence some years back because of a certain digging husky with wanderlust. This was fairly new electric fencing, the shock was mild, said husky touched it any number of times, and I can guarandamntee you it didn't do anything horrible to her body or her mind. If I live to be 100, I will never understand the mentality of people who have no knowledge of a subject but still feel free, apparently compelled even, to opine on that subject. When it's people in another country, it's nothing short of mind-boggling. Mustang Sally From: sighthounds etc. Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:21:31 -0500 Subject: Stop Barking Products On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:07:02 -0600, Katra wrote: "sighthounds etc." wrote: On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:50:59 -0600, Katra wrote: Sorry, I don't hang out here enough anymore to recognize the morons... :-) Except for Jerry. They can be difficult to recognize when they pretend to be someone else. It must be a pretty fun game, as both Jerry and Mikey devote a lot of time to it, especially when one considers what busy people they are. Bark collars are supposed to work pretty well and a good one runs less han $100.00. He ought to just try one and see if it works. He won't be out much. shrugs There is some controversy about the humane-ness of citronella collars because dogs' noses are so sensitive. I've tried citronella collars on our kenneled adoption dogs, and they didn't appear to be able to figure out the connection between their noise and the squirt. Or keep the dog inside..... Now that's a pretty foolproof method of dealing with problematic outdoor barking. Mustang Sally From: sighthounds etc. Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 10:18:01 -0500 Subject: BTW, Who am I I don't know that Sibes generally go home on their own; many don't, or they wouldn't end up in shelters. I don't know if it's coincidence that one of our permanent Sibes did this and one of our fosters did too. But I think Siberians *can* find their way home, at least based on my experience, where Greyhounds apparently usually can't. I don't know why Greyhounds can't; I guess it doesn't occur to them to use their noses to sniff their way back home. Of course, Greyhounds often are several miles away from home by the time they stop and consider what they're doing. In our case, it took our Siberian to find our Greyhound. doG knows what would have happened to Matty if not for Tasha, since he wouldn't come to us. Guess we would have had to try darting him. Invisible fences should not be used (except as reinforcerment for normal-height fences ) with northern breeds and sighthounds, period. Sally Hennessey From: sighthounds & siberians Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 09:12:56 -0500 Subject: Seiure land OK, living in this house is an epileptic Greyhound that hasn't had a seizure in 3 years, and epileptic IG that has a seizure (sometimes GM, but inconsistent) every couple of months or so, a non-epileptic Siberian that has a GM seizure every year or so, and a very badly bred Miniature Dachshund that has atypical apparent seizure activity at irregular intervals (but once on the same day the IG had one). So half an hour ago, I hear strange cat howling noises from the kitchen, and upon investigating, there's Dolce having a tonic seizure on the kitchen table. It must be the house. Mustang Sally From: sighthounds & siberians Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:27:02 -0500 Subject: Bullmastiff bullies my Staffordshire Bull Terrier That is just *exactly* what I was going to say. I had one aggressive female (Dal) and a dominant female that would die before she'd back down (Sibe). We tried just about everything, and had we kept them both, I am convinced that one would have killed the other. These were fights that caused injuries every time. Mustang Sally From: sighthounds & siberians Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 12:11:28 -0400 Local: Sat,Apr 16 2005 12:11 pm Subject: Mojo,Luke and Taffy update If we had known that the vet was going to treat it as MMM regardless of the biopsy results, we'd never have put Tasha through that. Specialists are great and all that, but I think he did a lot of tests just because he could. That internist is gone from our vet's practice now, and at first I was sorry, but now I'm not so sure. Yesterday I took Abby the kitty in because I thought she might be hyperthyroid. She isn't, but she probably has IBD. I asked the vet how they'd treat it, and he said that if the specialist were there he'd scope her and then they'd treat with prednisone. Since the specialist isn't there, he's going to treat with prednisone because she has the symptoms (she's also 15, and I wouldn't want to put her through endoscopy). From: sighthounds & siberians Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 10:57:46 -0400 Subject: Fear aggression While most of my dogs are well-behaved when left alone unconfined, my Whippets are not, and it is simply not possible to sufficiently proof' my home from dogs that can jump baby gates and get onto tables and counters when no one is home. No, of course they don't do that when we're home, but they sure do when we're gone. They aren't really destructive, though my female that enjoys chewing up plastic, but they're very food oriented, and their definition of food differs from ours, so they're crated for their own protection. I've found crate training to be very useful when a dog is ill or injured and needs to be confined for medical purposes; and this happens more often than you might think. I hate to spoil the image of cruel Americans locking up their dogs in boxes all day, but, well, it's BS, so there you go. To the OP: it's very difficult to say what's going on with your dog without observing him. I've had several very fearful dogs, one of which had some minor fear aggression when she felt absolutely trapped, but this resolved on its own as she became more confident. If there are specific things which trigger Sunny's fear aggression, you could work on desensitizing her to those things, but in general, I think you need either a behaviorist or a very good trainer who deals with aggression problems. Mustang Sally "After Numerous Training Classes, Behavioral Consultations, And Hundreds Of Dollars In Vet Bills, I Killed My Dalmatian Several Years Ago Due To Extreme Dog-Aggressiveness." From: sighthounds & siberians Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:43:17 -0500 Subject: New dog, need reassurance The owner is the critical thing though - - you set the rules, you decide what's acceptable, your attitude conveys that to your dogs. We currently have two males that really don't get along. To minimize stress for animals and humans, they are kept separate. No amount of training or alpha attitude is going to change how they feel about each other, but they won't go after each other if DH or I is/am present. They will we're not around, though. Mustang Sally "After Numerous Training Classes, Behavioral Consultations, And Hundreds Of Dollars In Vet Bills, I Killed My Dalmatian Several Years Ago Due To Extreme Dog-Aggressiveness." From: greyhound Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 10:10:07 -0500 Subject: your dog's breed I don't know about yours, but all the Siberianswe've had maintain some degree of aloofness. They're affectionate, sleep on the bed and all that, but they're always independent. When a Sibe gets clingy, it's a good indication that something's wrong. As ours age, though, they become a bit less independent. A couple of weeks ago, Tasha, who was on the bed, crawled over and curled up right next to me, almost on top of me, and cuddled. She was trembling a bit, and I thought she might be about to have another seizure, but the moment passed. I imagined calling the vet: "I need to bring Tasha in because she's cuddling." How bittersweet that you and Duncan bonded more toward the end of his life than in the years before. He always knew who he loved and trusted, and when he felt himself failing, you're what he wanted. Hope you're feeling better. Mustang Sally From: sighthounds & siberians Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 10:54:26 -0500 Subject: Injured By Dogs???? There are some dogs that will never bite a human under any circumstances, and some that will bite a human when in pain. Tasha is apparently one of the latter - - she bit my hand when I closed her paw in a baby gate - - and I don't think any less of her because of it, nor do I consider it a reflection on her training. The incident showed us that that type of baby gate wasn't the best design for use with dogs, and we got rid of it. Mustang Sally "After Numerous Training Classes, Behavioral Consultations, And Hundreds Of Dollars In Vet Bills, I Killed My Dalmatian Several Years Ago Due To Extreme Dog-Aggressiveness." From: sighthounds & siberians Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 20:01:56 -0500 Subject: Dog fight, dog bite, aaaiiiieeeeee Heh. Probably confuses the dogs, too. I'll have to keep that in mind if I have to break up a fight again. Keeping calm is always recommended, but usually harder than actually breaking up the fight. The fights we've had in the last few years are nothing compared to the ones between the Sibe and Dal (one of the worst things about their fights was that once you separated them, you had to hold onto them and be *very*careful, because if they got half a chance, they'd go after each other again. The Dal always started it, but Tasha, as you might guess, never backed down. Anyway, it's easier to stay calm now because I know the dogs don't have death as a goal, as they seemed to. Staying calm also has a lot to do with the dogs' behavior when you try to break up the fight. Mustang Sally "After Numerous Training Classes, Behavioral Consultations, And Hundreds Of Dollars In Vet Bills, I Killed My Dalmatian Several Years Ago Due To Extreme Dog-Aggressiveness." From: sighthounds & siberians Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 08:30:40 -0500 Subject: my brother's dog Assuming you could have found someone who knew what they were doing. When the problems with Justy and Tasha started, we contacted everyone we could think of, including the Dal rescue people and trainers. There weren't any behaviorists around, but someone, I don't remember who, referred us to one in another state who did phone consultations! Of course, that was of limited value. In retrospect, I still think that situation was unsalvageable. But we sure learned a lot about multi-dog interactions, dog aggression and managing less severe fighting situations. It was months before hearing a dog growl didn't make my heartbeat race. Mustang Sally "After Numerous Training Classes, Behavioral Consultations, And Hundreds Of Dollars In Vet Bills, I Killed My Dalmatian Several Years Ago Due To Extreme Dog-Aggressiveness." From: sighthounds & siberians Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:32:52 -0400 Subject: Introducing New Dog to Household Cats but I'm inclined to believe that the "Wits' End Dog Training Manual" did have something to do with it, too. :-) which exercises did you find most helpful? You know, what I found as most helpful were the magic words "Good boy, Clyde" and "Good girl, Bonnie". The dogs do ANYTHING if I just utter these words. I suspect that they are secretly reading Jerry's posts to rpdb. g for me, it was the best thing that I could wish for - no violence at all, i've been playing at training my own dogs since i was 3-4 years old (probably longer, but my memory has its limits). in any event, it was long before i'd ever heard of Mr. Howe. somehow, without the benefit of Mr. Howe's "superior" methods, i managed not to treat any of my dogs violently. very easy to apply, and best of all, always gives wonderful results. that's untrue. one of his favorite methods (using a shake can as positive punishment) does not work with either of my dogs. one ignores it (he's not bothered by loud, sudden noises) and the other loses all control of her bowels and bladder when startled by sudden noises/movement. so, like most training tools, the shake can may vary from benignly ineffective to downright abusive, depending on the situation. This is nothing at all like what Jerry says. Really, shelly, why not READ the manual? I've read the thing (I refuse to call it a manual), and I can tell you, based on experience with high prey breeds, that "good boy" and "good girl" are not particularly useful when redirecting high prey drive. Mustang Sally "After Numerous Training Classes, Behavioral Consultations, And Hundreds Of Dollars In Vet Bills, I Killed My Dalmatian Several Years Ago Due To Extreme Dog-Aggressiveness." ----------------------- "I'll bet you don't know a thing about me. I volunteered as assistant to the euthanasia tech at our local shelter for a while, and I know a bit about overpopulation and unwanted animals. This however has nothing at all to do with responsible breeders, because responsible breeders don't contribute to that problem," Mustang Sally. ---------------- BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~! |
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