OMG! One more reason to NOT declaw...

From: (Sherry )

I am not tearing you apart. I once again *invite* you to post proof that
those articles from the Journal of American Veterinary Medicine Asso. are
not being fairly quoted with a nearly 20% complication rate. That's it. Post
that evidence and I'll listen. BTW how did the fix on the botched declaw job
some vet did on that other cat that was set for Monday go for your husband?

Karen

I followed the thread on the other newsgroups. I'm sure everyone else also
saw
Karen post reference after reference, and saw Sharon repeatedly asked to do
the
same. She never offered anything further than anecotal evidence or "my
husband
saids." I'm sure she has access to even more than Karen does, yet she never
posted a thing.

Sherry

Obviously she can't back up what she says so chooses to ignore the questions
asked of her.
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In ,
Sharon composed with style:


Karen - why the constant bullying? Huh? I know what your point is,
for the most part I respect it. But you ignore that and only tear
me apart almost as entertainment.

I have never seen Karen bully anyone, especially not for
entertainment. In the years I've "known" her online, she is a gentle
person who cares about cats and wants to see abuse of them stopped.
Period. You happen to run a practice that declaws cats. You also
happen to be online to discuss this with to find out why.

In ,
Sharon composed with style:


Karen - why the constant bullying? Huh? I know what your point is,
for the most part I respect it. But you ignore that and only tear
me apart almost as entertainment.

I have never seen Karen bully anyone, especially not for
entertainment. In the years I've "known" her online, she is a gentle
person who cares about cats and wants to see abuse of them stopped.
Period. You happen to run a practice that declaws cats. You also
happen to be online to discuss this with to find out why.

In ,
Brandy Alexandre composed with style:

Yeah, I'm villified for declawing my cat over 10 years ago before it
became a cause celeb and not being sorry for it.

No, you're wrong. You were villified for your repeated claims of
condoning it for others if they want to do it to their cats. You also
don't regret maiming Kami, even 10 years later knowing what you had
done to her. Your first post here that raised most peoples eyebrows
was an adamant "NO" to a plea to help spread the word about the W
Hollywood ban on declaw.

In ,
Brandy Alexandre composed with style:

Yeah, I'm villified for declawing my cat over 10 years ago before it
became a cause celeb and not being sorry for it.

No, you're wrong. You were villified for your repeated claims of
condoning it for others if they want to do it to their cats. You also
don't regret maiming Kami, even 10 years later knowing what you had
done to her. Your first post here that raised most peoples eyebrows
was an adamant "NO" to a plea to help spread the word about the W
Hollywood ban on declaw.

Brandy wroe:

That's not reality.

Well, yes, it is. There has been plenty of evidence provided to you to
back it up and to date you have not provided a single source to back up
any of your claims. It seems you are in a perpetual state of denial.

That's an unfortunate incident that these
screaming harpies want everyone to
believe happens to every cat every time.

What was that you were saying about namecalling?

I haven't seen anyone here "ever" say that complications such as the one
in the photo happen "every" time. What is true that complications do
happen at a high rate. So high in fact that veterinarians did a study
and their findings bear this out. To subject a cat not only to
intentional handicapping, but to the plethora of proven risks, is cruel
and inhumane. The statistics were listed right under the photo. It's not
surprising that you choose to ignore them as it would be one more nail
in the coffin that your lame and unproven arguments lie in.

Megan



"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing."

-Edmund Burke

Learn The TRUTH About Declawing
http://www.stopdeclaw.com

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http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22

"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one
elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and
splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

- W.H. Murray

Brandy wroe:

That's not reality.

Well, yes, it is. There has been plenty of evidence provided to you to
back it up and to date you have not provided a single source to back up
any of your claims. It seems you are in a perpetual state of denial.

That's an unfortunate incident that these
screaming harpies want everyone to
believe happens to every cat every time.

What was that you were saying about namecalling?

I haven't seen anyone here "ever" say that complications such as the one
in the photo happen "every" time. What is true that complications do
happen at a high rate. So high in fact that veterinarians did a study
and their findings bear this out. To subject a cat not only to
intentional handicapping, but to the plethora of proven risks, is cruel
and inhumane. The statistics were listed right under the photo. It's not
surprising that you choose to ignore them as it would be one more nail
in the coffin that your lame and unproven arguments lie in.

Megan



"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing."

-Edmund Burke

Learn The TRUTH About Declawing
http://www.stopdeclaw.com

Zuzu's Cats Photo Album:
http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22

"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one
elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and
splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

- W.H. Murray

"Sharon" wrote in message ...
Of course. She's got things like mortgage payments to think about. You
think she's going to like arguments against easy income? Puhleeze.

Before you assume things about me, why don't you ask. If you go and look you
will see that declawing at our practice is not even close to a regular
procedure and only a last resort procedure. Easy income? Hardly.

That said, stopping the practice of declawing will need more than laws.
As in other countries, vets will have to Just Say No. It boils down to
attitudes in society at large.

And sometimes in a very few cases it needs to be an option. VERY FEW CASES.

You are correct - in the cases where the claw is damaged beyond repair
and/or diseased. And that is the ONLY time declawing is necessary.

-L.

"Sharon" wrote in message ...
Of course. She's got things like mortgage payments to think about. You
think she's going to like arguments against easy income? Puhleeze.

Before you assume things about me, why don't you ask. If you go and look you
will see that declawing at our practice is not even close to a regular
procedure and only a last resort procedure. Easy income? Hardly.

That said, stopping the practice of declawing will need more than laws.
As in other countries, vets will have to Just Say No. It boils down to
attitudes in society at large.

And sometimes in a very few cases it needs to be an option. VERY FEW CASES.

You are correct - in the cases where the claw is damaged beyond repair
and/or diseased. And that is the ONLY time declawing is necessary.

-L.

"Sharon" wrote in message ...
*snort* she'd just pooh pooh it away like everything else, ask for proof,
then ignore the proof even though she read that that proof was tainted.

Tainted proof? Extrapolate the data any way you want to fit your agenda,
just don't speak for me. I never pooh poohed anything. It seems as though
you have labeled me as something I am not.

-Sharon


You're an advocate for declaw surgery and you profit from declaw
surgery. That's all we need to know.

-L.