OMG! One more reason to NOT declaw...

"Sharon" wrote in message ...
*snort* she'd just pooh pooh it away like everything else, ask for proof,
then ignore the proof even though she read that that proof was tainted.

Tainted proof? Extrapolate the data any way you want to fit your agenda,
just don't speak for me. I never pooh poohed anything. It seems as though
you have labeled me as something I am not.

-Sharon


You're an advocate for declaw surgery and you profit from declaw
surgery. That's all we need to know.

-L.

"Sharon" wrote in message ...
It's an intricate
operation that requires time, detail, a host of equipment and supplies.
I'd be surprised that many break even on that one.

It's the insinuation that vets are in it for the money that gets me. I wish.
Can't even begin to tell you how much we have given away in products and
services. House calls on lunch half hours, calls all night. It certainly
isn't about the money, that's for ssure.

Uh, yeah. That's why mu former boss's kids drive a new BWM...

Pffft!

At least not in our house. Ask my
kids.

Yes, I'm sure they're living in the poor house. Poor widdle fwings.

If your husband cared so much about cats, he wouldn't declaw them.
Complications such as the regrowth in this thread is reason enough not
to do it.

-L.

"Sharon" wrote in message ...
It's an intricate
operation that requires time, detail, a host of equipment and supplies.
I'd be surprised that many break even on that one.

It's the insinuation that vets are in it for the money that gets me. I wish.
Can't even begin to tell you how much we have given away in products and
services. House calls on lunch half hours, calls all night. It certainly
isn't about the money, that's for ssure.

Uh, yeah. That's why mu former boss's kids drive a new BWM...

Pffft!

At least not in our house. Ask my
kids.

Yes, I'm sure they're living in the poor house. Poor widdle fwings.

If your husband cared so much about cats, he wouldn't declaw them.
Complications such as the regrowth in this thread is reason enough not
to do it.

-L.

In ,
(-L.) wrote:
| "Sharon" wrote in message ...

| And sometimes in a very few cases it needs to be an option. VERY FEW
| CASES.
|
| You are correct - in the cases where the claw is damaged beyond repair
| and/or diseased. And that is the ONLY time declawing is necessary.

All ten claws damaged beyond repair? All ten diseased simultaneously?

A cat of a friend of mine developed a growth on one forepaw. Tests were
done, including a biopsy. The diagnosis was bone cancer, and it didn't
seem to have spread elsewhere. Off came two phalanges of the pinkie and
one of the ring.

While two out of ten claws were lost, this is not "declawing" in the
sense of "VERY FEW CASES" above, now is it?

In ,
(-L.) wrote:
| "Sharon" wrote in message ...

| And sometimes in a very few cases it needs to be an option. VERY FEW
| CASES.
|
| You are correct - in the cases where the claw is damaged beyond repair
| and/or diseased. And that is the ONLY time declawing is necessary.

All ten claws damaged beyond repair? All ten diseased simultaneously?

A cat of a friend of mine developed a growth on one forepaw. Tests were
done, including a biopsy. The diagnosis was bone cancer, and it didn't
seem to have spread elsewhere. Off came two phalanges of the pinkie and
one of the ring.

While two out of ten claws were lost, this is not "declawing" in the
sense of "VERY FEW CASES" above, now is it?

From: (-L.)

In the feline specilty vet I worked for, we did between 3-6 declaws a
day, sometimes more. In NONE of those cases that I witnessed was
there ever a medical necessity cited, for the owner. None. OTOH, we
routinely did declaws on cats as young as 10 weeks - because of the
"declaw or euthanize" blackmail, supposedly. Each declaw ran a
minimum of $150 for about 30 minutes worth of prep and surgery. I
once estimated the income for the practice to be around $100K per
year, from surgery, meds and boarding from declaw, alone. I'm sure
that was a conservative estimate.


Gack Did the vets ever try to educate the client by showing them how to
train the cat or trim claws? Did the vets ever tell the clients that declawing
is actually a painful amputation of the last digit of each toe? I'm assuming
that because of the very lucrative nature of declawing, they did not.

Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: (-L.)

In the feline specilty vet I worked for, we did between 3-6 declaws a
day, sometimes more. In NONE of those cases that I witnessed was
there ever a medical necessity cited, for the owner. None. OTOH, we
routinely did declaws on cats as young as 10 weeks - because of the
"declaw or euthanize" blackmail, supposedly. Each declaw ran a
minimum of $150 for about 30 minutes worth of prep and surgery. I
once estimated the income for the practice to be around $100K per
year, from surgery, meds and boarding from declaw, alone. I'm sure
that was a conservative estimate.


Gack Did the vets ever try to educate the client by showing them how to
train the cat or trim claws? Did the vets ever tell the clients that declawing
is actually a painful amputation of the last digit of each toe? I'm assuming
that because of the very lucrative nature of declawing, they did not.

Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

-L. wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

But posts like hers serve a purpose. They are very useful in
teaching the public about the problems associated with declaw
surgery, and they are excellent ammunition in the fight to get
this barbaric practice banned. For this, we can only thank her.



They serve no purpose if they're lies because you want to try to fit in
with the group. I came to my senses though. The day I feel the need
to fit DOWN to the like of losers like you (who spends that much time
tracking and archiving people online?), will be the day I slit my
throat.

--
BrandyÂ*Â*Alexandre®
http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx
Well, would you?

-L. wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

But posts like hers serve a purpose. They are very useful in
teaching the public about the problems associated with declaw
surgery, and they are excellent ammunition in the fight to get
this barbaric practice banned. For this, we can only thank her.



They serve no purpose if they're lies because you want to try to fit in
with the group. I came to my senses though. The day I feel the need
to fit DOWN to the like of losers like you (who spends that much time
tracking and archiving people online?), will be the day I slit my
throat.

--
BrandyÂ*Â*Alexandre®
http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx
Well, would you?

Arjun Ray wrote in message . ..
In ,
(-L.) wrote:
| "Sharon" wrote in message ...

| And sometimes in a very few cases it needs to be an option. VERY FEW
| CASES.
|
| You are correct - in the cases where the claw is damaged beyond repair
| and/or diseased. And that is the ONLY time declawing is necessary.

All ten claws damaged beyond repair? All ten diseased simultaneously?

Of course not. But there are cases where an injury or disease results
in a claw needing removal. THAT was my point.


A cat of a friend of mine developed a growth on one forepaw. Tests were
done, including a biopsy. The diagnosis was bone cancer, and it didn't
seem to have spread elsewhere. Off came two phalanges of the pinkie and
one of the ring.

While two out of ten claws were lost, this is not "declawing" in the
sense of "VERY FEW CASES" above, now is it?

When I worked at the vet, we saw probably three or four cases a year
of an avulsed nail - those *needed* surgical removal. Those were the
only claws out of the, hum....roughly 11,250 claws removed yearly that
actually *needed* removal...

-L.