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Cat Psychology
"Stan Brown" wrote in message t... Sun, 7 Feb 2010 14:33:54 -0600 from Mark Earnest : "Stan Brown" wrote in message t... Sat, 6 Feb 2010 22:38:52 -0600 from Mark Earnest : Sure cats are hurt whenever they purr and you don't love them back. Anyone that doesn't know cats can love don't know what love is to begin with. Sentimental twaddle. Wouldn't a proper forum on cats be all about sentiments? Not "all" about, but sentiment is certainly a large part. It's not the sentiment I object to, but the twaddle. Don't get me wrong -- I love cats in general and mine in particular. But I have no illusion that he has similar feelings for me. Then I guess you never had your tomcat bring you a bird or lizard it killed especially for you. A mouse, actually, but what has that to do with love? Well, I don't know whether it's love or not, but if you could see the way my cats act when my wife goes down to California for a week or so to visit her grandkids, you would know that there is something they feel for her. It isn't just food, because I feed them just as well as she does. And it isn't just the brushing, because I brush them just as much as she does.....So what is it about her that they like so much? When she is gone, they treat me like it's my fault she went away, and they shine up to me so that I will bring her back.....And, it works.....After a while she comes back! And they are very happy.....You can almost see them high fiveing each other, and saying, "We were successful again..... dad brought her back." |
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Cat Psychology
"Bill Graham" wrote in message ... "Stan Brown" wrote in message t... Sun, 7 Feb 2010 14:33:54 -0600 from Mark Earnest : "Stan Brown" wrote in message t... Sat, 6 Feb 2010 22:38:52 -0600 from Mark Earnest : Sure cats are hurt whenever they purr and you don't love them back. Anyone that doesn't know cats can love don't know what love is to begin with. Sentimental twaddle. Wouldn't a proper forum on cats be all about sentiments? Not "all" about, but sentiment is certainly a large part. It's not the sentiment I object to, but the twaddle. Don't get me wrong -- I love cats in general and mine in particular. But I have no illusion that he has similar feelings for me. Then I guess you never had your tomcat bring you a bird or lizard it killed especially for you. A mouse, actually, but what has that to do with love? Well, I don't know whether it's love or not, but if you could see the way my cats act when my wife goes down to California for a week or so to visit her grandkids, you would know that there is something they feel for her. It isn't just food, because I feed them just as well as she does. And it isn't just the brushing, because I brush them just as much as she does.....So what is it about her that they like so much? When she is gone, they treat me like it's my fault she went away, and they shine up to me so that I will bring her back.....And, it works.....After a while she comes back! And they are very happy.....You can almost see them high fiveing each other, and saying, "We were successful again..... dad brought her back." See, when you live with cats long enough, you learn their language. It is more the way they treat you than language, but language nonetheless. |
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Cat Psychology
"Mark Earnest" wrote in message netamerica... "Bill Graham" wrote in message ... "Stan Brown" wrote in message t... Sun, 7 Feb 2010 14:33:54 -0600 from Mark Earnest : "Stan Brown" wrote in message t... Sat, 6 Feb 2010 22:38:52 -0600 from Mark Earnest : Sure cats are hurt whenever they purr and you don't love them back. Anyone that doesn't know cats can love don't know what love is to begin with. Sentimental twaddle. Wouldn't a proper forum on cats be all about sentiments? Not "all" about, but sentiment is certainly a large part. It's not the sentiment I object to, but the twaddle. Don't get me wrong -- I love cats in general and mine in particular. But I have no illusion that he has similar feelings for me. Then I guess you never had your tomcat bring you a bird or lizard it killed especially for you. A mouse, actually, but what has that to do with love? Well, I don't know whether it's love or not, but if you could see the way my cats act when my wife goes down to California for a week or so to visit her grandkids, you would know that there is something they feel for her. It isn't just food, because I feed them just as well as she does. And it isn't just the brushing, because I brush them just as much as she does.....So what is it about her that they like so much? When she is gone, they treat me like it's my fault she went away, and they shine up to me so that I will bring her back.....And, it works.....After a while she comes back! And they are very happy.....You can almost see them high fiveing each other, and saying, "We were successful again..... dad brought her back." See, when you live with cats long enough, you learn their language. It is more the way they treat you than language, but language nonetheless. Well, I have one that responds to a dog whistle......I can go out on the front porch and blow the whistle three times, and in about 5 minutes, he comes running down the block......Sure, I give him a goodie.....Usually a bowl of milk.....But he did this from the get go, without any training on my part. I have had many cats, but this is the only one that comes when I call him like a dog would...... |
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Cat Psychology
"Bill Graham" wrote in message ... "Mark Earnest" wrote in message netamerica... "Bill Graham" wrote in message ... "Stan Brown" wrote in message t... Sun, 7 Feb 2010 14:33:54 -0600 from Mark Earnest : "Stan Brown" wrote in message t... Sat, 6 Feb 2010 22:38:52 -0600 from Mark Earnest : Sure cats are hurt whenever they purr and you don't love them back. Anyone that doesn't know cats can love don't know what love is to begin with. Sentimental twaddle. Wouldn't a proper forum on cats be all about sentiments? Not "all" about, but sentiment is certainly a large part. It's not the sentiment I object to, but the twaddle. Don't get me wrong -- I love cats in general and mine in particular. But I have no illusion that he has similar feelings for me. Then I guess you never had your tomcat bring you a bird or lizard it killed especially for you. A mouse, actually, but what has that to do with love? Well, I don't know whether it's love or not, but if you could see the way my cats act when my wife goes down to California for a week or so to visit her grandkids, you would know that there is something they feel for her. It isn't just food, because I feed them just as well as she does. And it isn't just the brushing, because I brush them just as much as she does.....So what is it about her that they like so much? When she is gone, they treat me like it's my fault she went away, and they shine up to me so that I will bring her back.....And, it works.....After a while she comes back! And they are very happy.....You can almost see them high fiveing each other, and saying, "We were successful again..... dad brought her back." See, when you live with cats long enough, you learn their language. It is more the way they treat you than language, but language nonetheless. Well, I have one that responds to a dog whistle......I can go out on the front porch and blow the whistle three times, and in about 5 minutes, he comes running down the block......Sure, I give him a goodie.....Usually a bowl of milk.....But he did this from the get go, without any training on my part. I have had many cats, but this is the only one that comes when I call him like a dog would...... Then not only do you know your cats language, but one of your cats knows your language, in this case, a shrill noise silent to the human ear. |
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"Mark Earnest" wrote in message ... "Bill Graham" wrote in message ... "Mark Earnest" wrote in message netamerica... "Bill Graham" wrote in message ... "Stan Brown" wrote in message t... Sun, 7 Feb 2010 14:33:54 -0600 from Mark Earnest : "Stan Brown" wrote in message t... Sat, 6 Feb 2010 22:38:52 -0600 from Mark Earnest : Sure cats are hurt whenever they purr and you don't love them back. Anyone that doesn't know cats can love don't know what love is to begin with. Sentimental twaddle. Wouldn't a proper forum on cats be all about sentiments? Not "all" about, but sentiment is certainly a large part. It's not the sentiment I object to, but the twaddle. Don't get me wrong -- I love cats in general and mine in particular. But I have no illusion that he has similar feelings for me. Then I guess you never had your tomcat bring you a bird or lizard it killed especially for you. A mouse, actually, but what has that to do with love? Well, I don't know whether it's love or not, but if you could see the way my cats act when my wife goes down to California for a week or so to visit her grandkids, you would know that there is something they feel for her. It isn't just food, because I feed them just as well as she does. And it isn't just the brushing, because I brush them just as much as she does.....So what is it about her that they like so much? When she is gone, they treat me like it's my fault she went away, and they shine up to me so that I will bring her back.....And, it works.....After a while she comes back! And they are very happy.....You can almost see them high fiveing each other, and saying, "We were successful again..... dad brought her back." See, when you live with cats long enough, you learn their language. It is more the way they treat you than language, but language nonetheless. Well, I have one that responds to a dog whistle......I can go out on the front porch and blow the whistle three times, and in about 5 minutes, he comes running down the block......Sure, I give him a goodie.....Usually a bowl of milk.....But he did this from the get go, without any training on my part. I have had many cats, but this is the only one that comes when I call him like a dog would...... Then not only do you know your cats language, but one of your cats knows your language, in this case, a shrill noise silent to the human ear. Yes....Well, to be fair, it started when he was young and very happy with me, because I took him out of a Burger King parking lot, and brought him home and fed him some real cat chow. At that time, he came running no matter what noise I made, just because he was so happy to be around. Then he shortly learned to associate the dog whistle with me and some goodie or other, so now he probably just comes for the goodie.....The parking lot is around five years ago, so I doubt if he remembers it any more. |
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Cat Psychology
[This followup was posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav and a copy was
sent to the cited author.] In article , weg9 @comcast.net says... "Mark Earnest" wrote in message netamerica... "Bill Graham" wrote in message ... "Stan Brown" wrote in message t... Sun, 7 Feb 2010 14:33:54 -0600 from Mark Earnest : "Stan Brown" wrote in message t... Sat, 6 Feb 2010 22:38:52 -0600 from Mark Earnest : Sure cats are hurt whenever they purr and you don't love them back. Anyone that doesn't know cats can love don't know what love is to begin with. Sentimental twaddle. Wouldn't a proper forum on cats be all about sentiments? Not "all" about, but sentiment is certainly a large part. It's not the sentiment I object to, but the twaddle. Don't get me wrong -- I love cats in general and mine in particular. But I have no illusion that he has similar feelings for me. Then I guess you never had your tomcat bring you a bird or lizard it killed especially for you. A mouse, actually, but what has that to do with love? Well, I don't know whether it's love or not, but if you could see the way my cats act when my wife goes down to California for a week or so to visit her grandkids, you would know that there is something they feel for her. It isn't just food, because I feed them just as well as she does. And it isn't just the brushing, because I brush them just as much as she does.....So what is it about her that they like so much? When she is gone, they treat me like it's my fault she went away, and they shine up to me so that I will bring her back.....And, it works.....After a while she comes back! And they are very happy.....You can almost see them high fiveing each other, and saying, "We were successful again..... dad brought her back." See, when you live with cats long enough, you learn their language. It is more the way they treat you than language, but language nonetheless. Well, I have one that responds to a dog whistle......I can go out on the front porch and blow the whistle three times, and in about 5 minutes, he comes running down the block......Sure, I give him a goodie.....Usually a bowl of milk.....But he did this from the get go, without any training on my part. I have had many cats, but this is the only one that comes when I call him like a dog would...... Indeed, some cats are pretty smart. My first cat played fetch. I'd throw a busy ball and he'd run, pick it up with his mouth and bring it back to me so I could throw it again. |
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Cat Psychology
Suddenly, without warning, cybercat exclaimed (2/8/2010 4:01 PM):
"Stan Brown" wrote in message t... Sun, 7 Feb 2010 14:33:54 -0600 from Mark Earnest : "Stan Brown" wrote in message t... Sat, 6 Feb 2010 22:38:52 -0600 from Mark Earnest : Sure cats are hurt whenever they purr and you don't love them back. Anyone that doesn't know cats can love don't know what love is to begin with. Sentimental twaddle. Wouldn't a proper forum on cats be all about sentiments? Not "all" about, but sentiment is certainly a large part. It's not the sentiment I object to, but the twaddle. Don't get me wrong -- I love cats in general and mine in particular. But I have no illusion that he has similar feelings for me. Then I guess you never had your tomcat bring you a bird or lizard it killed especially for you. A mouse, actually, but what has that to do with love? I am not sure you should have cats, Stan. A short while ago I had a migraine and the accompanying terribly retching. You would think my old cat would run for the hills. Instead, she hovered, stayed close to me, tried to sleep right up against me until she read my signals and saw that I really needed to be left alone. It was unusual behavior for her. Every time I opened the bathroom door she was there looking worried, and she followed me back to bed, jumped up, and meowed questioningly. This is not anthropomorphism. It was not feeding time. She was worried about me. They most certainly do love. And presenting prey is indeed done in part to show their esteem. I've heard a couple of theories on the mouse-gift behavior: 1. It's a present 2. They're showing off - look at me the mighty hunter! 3. They are trying to help - you go out all the time and never bring back any food (cats likely don't understand groceries, per this theory), so they think you're a terrible hunter and are trying to help. #3 sounds real cute except they do see us eat Knowing cats, I'm going with a combination of #1 and #2 As far as the worried behavior when you're sick - Yes, Meep does that too. It's very comforting when I feel like crap, to have her curl up near me and purr. jmc |
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"jmc" wrote in message ... Suddenly, without warning, cybercat exclaimed (2/8/2010 4:01 PM): "Stan Brown" wrote in message t... Sun, 7 Feb 2010 14:33:54 -0600 from Mark Earnest : "Stan Brown" wrote in message t... Sat, 6 Feb 2010 22:38:52 -0600 from Mark Earnest : Sure cats are hurt whenever they purr and you don't love them back. Anyone that doesn't know cats can love don't know what love is to begin with. Sentimental twaddle. Wouldn't a proper forum on cats be all about sentiments? Not "all" about, but sentiment is certainly a large part. It's not the sentiment I object to, but the twaddle. Don't get me wrong -- I love cats in general and mine in particular. But I have no illusion that he has similar feelings for me. Then I guess you never had your tomcat bring you a bird or lizard it killed especially for you. A mouse, actually, but what has that to do with love? I am not sure you should have cats, Stan. A short while ago I had a migraine and the accompanying terribly retching. You would think my old cat would run for the hills. Instead, she hovered, stayed close to me, tried to sleep right up against me until she read my signals and saw that I really needed to be left alone. It was unusual behavior for her. Every time I opened the bathroom door she was there looking worried, and she followed me back to bed, jumped up, and meowed questioningly. This is not anthropomorphism. It was not feeding time. She was worried about me. They most certainly do love. And presenting prey is indeed done in part to show their esteem. I've heard a couple of theories on the mouse-gift behavior: 1. It's a present 2. They're showing off - look at me the mighty hunter! 3. They are trying to help - you go out all the time and never bring back any food (cats likely don't understand groceries, per this theory), so they think you're a terrible hunter and are trying to help. or 4. "I've rid the Earth of another vile creature, to pay you back for feeding me." |
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"T" wrote Well, I have one that responds to a dog whistle......I can go out on the front porch and blow the whistle three times, and in about 5 minutes, he comes running down the block......Sure, I give him a goodie.....Usually a bowl of milk.....But he did this from the get go, without any training on my part. I have had many cats, but this is the only one that comes when I call him like a dog would...... How many of your cats have been hit by cars? |
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"cybercat" wrote in message ... "T" wrote Well, I have one that responds to a dog whistle......I can go out on the front porch and blow the whistle three times, and in about 5 minutes, he comes running down the block......Sure, I give him a goodie.....Usually a bowl of milk.....But he did this from the get go, without any training on my part. I have had many cats, but this is the only one that comes when I call him like a dog would...... How many of your cats have been hit by cars? I've never had a cat that died via automobile, but I had one that had a limp and a lump when we got her.....She came with the house. I don't know how she got the limp and lump, but I speculate that it could well have been because of a run-in with a car. In any case I don't want to have another session about inside/outside cat arguments.....It's ground that has been gone over many times before. All of my cats were outside cats when I got them, and have remained so after I got them. If I lived in downtown New York City, this wouldn't be the case, but I don't. You don't know where I live, and so you can't give me any advice on this issue.....'nough said..... |
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