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Did you solve the problem with your two babies by having all of their fingers surgically removed? Actually we did. They can't play the piano, though, so we're trying to develop their psychic skills. |
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"J1Boss" wrote in message ... Kaeli wrote: Ouch! What DOES this really say though? That cats are stoic? Or that they block out pain easily (i.e. - therefore not feel pain from something we would think to be incredibly painful)? I'm willing to buy either explanation BTW! I always heard that if they show weakness or illness in the wild (i.e. before they were domesticated) they get eaten, so it is programmed in. |
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"J1Boss" wrote in message ... Kaeli wrote: Ouch! What DOES this really say though? That cats are stoic? Or that they block out pain easily (i.e. - therefore not feel pain from something we would think to be incredibly painful)? I'm willing to buy either explanation BTW! I always heard that if they show weakness or illness in the wild (i.e. before they were domesticated) they get eaten, so it is programmed in. |
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enlightened us with... Ouch! What DOES this really say though? That cats are stoic? Yes. Most animals deplore showing pain, because in the wild, this is a weakness and they would be attacked. Or that they block out pain easily (i.e. - therefore not feel pain from something we would think to be incredibly painful)? I would doubt this, as if it were true, they wouldn't develop behavior problems from excessive pain, such as how some cats won't use the litterbox after a declaw. Also, some cats will not seem to be in pain to us, but small signs show that they indeed are - such as hiding in small places, not eating as much, or not drinking. Or they just seem a little "off". Some humans are very good at dealing with pain, but that doesn't mean they don't feel it. My father's mother can go to the dentist and have work done with no novacaine at all, but she does feel the pain. She is just more afraid of the novacaine than the pain. I'm willing to buy either explanation BTW! ;-D And wouldn't declaw again for the very reason that pain MAY be a very big issue and that's just not nice (I've done those effusive apologies about accidents as well - how come the cats don't acknowledge our groveling adequately? ;-D). LOL Actually, the morality of it is my biggest reason for being so anti- declaw. Most cats don't have complications or problems from the research I've seen, but I don't believe it is okay to take the chance nor do I think amputation is an okay thing even if there were never any problems at all in any cats. I am also against tail docking and ear cropping. ------------------------------------------------- ~kaeli~ Jesus saves, Allah protects, and Cthulhu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace ------------------------------------------------- |
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In article ,
enlightened us with... Ouch! What DOES this really say though? That cats are stoic? Yes. Most animals deplore showing pain, because in the wild, this is a weakness and they would be attacked. Or that they block out pain easily (i.e. - therefore not feel pain from something we would think to be incredibly painful)? I would doubt this, as if it were true, they wouldn't develop behavior problems from excessive pain, such as how some cats won't use the litterbox after a declaw. Also, some cats will not seem to be in pain to us, but small signs show that they indeed are - such as hiding in small places, not eating as much, or not drinking. Or they just seem a little "off". Some humans are very good at dealing with pain, but that doesn't mean they don't feel it. My father's mother can go to the dentist and have work done with no novacaine at all, but she does feel the pain. She is just more afraid of the novacaine than the pain. I'm willing to buy either explanation BTW! ;-D And wouldn't declaw again for the very reason that pain MAY be a very big issue and that's just not nice (I've done those effusive apologies about accidents as well - how come the cats don't acknowledge our groveling adequately? ;-D). LOL Actually, the morality of it is my biggest reason for being so anti- declaw. Most cats don't have complications or problems from the research I've seen, but I don't believe it is okay to take the chance nor do I think amputation is an okay thing even if there were never any problems at all in any cats. I am also against tail docking and ear cropping. ------------------------------------------------- ~kaeli~ Jesus saves, Allah protects, and Cthulhu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace ------------------------------------------------- |
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