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Wheat Gluten from China?!?!
Does anyone else find it ironic that with the surplus of wheat in the
US that Canadian and US companies are importing WHEAT from China? I'm about ready to move to Mars. At least humans haven't destroyed all that's sacred and healthy there yet. thank GOD my cats are not sick. Although I do have a 16 year old with recently diagnosed age related renal failure. But it's early stages and treatable by (yes, as you suspected) dietary interventions should we ever find a food that's not toxic, that is...sigh I digress... Mom to 4 feline boys and a human son with Autism. |
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Wheat Gluten from China?!?!
"Amy C." wrote in message ups.com... Does anyone else find it ironic that with the surplus of wheat in the US that Canadian and US companies are importing WHEAT from China? I'm about ready to move to Mars. At least humans haven't destroyed all that's sacred and healthy there yet. thank GOD my cats are not sick. Although I do have a 16 year old with recently diagnosed age related renal failure. But it's early stages and treatable by (yes, as you suspected) dietary interventions should we ever find a food that's not toxic, that is...sigh I digress... Mom to 4 feline boys and a human son with Autism. -------------- As far as I know, the prescription kidney diets k/d (dry only) and x/d (dry only) do not contain any wheat gluten or other wheat products. Best regards, ---Cindy S. |
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Wheat Gluten from China?!?!
On 5 Apr 2007, Amy C. said about: Wheat Gluten from China?!?! Does anyone else find it ironic that with the surplus of wheat in the US that Canadian and US companies are importing WHEAT from China? Being sort of a news/politics junkie, I wouldn't use the word "irony" to describe it. I'm tempted to use the word "evil," however. But I generally dont approve of that word, since I'm not religious. ** "Fascism should more properly be called ** corporatism, since it is the merger of state ** and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini. "The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than the democratic state itself. That in it's essence is fascism: ownership of the government by an individual, by a group or any controlling private power." -- Franklin Delano Roosevelt, message to congress, proposing the "Standard Oil" Monopoly Investigation, 1938 I'm about ready to move to Mars. At least humans haven't destroyed all that's sacred and healthy there yet. Indeed. Yet. I think the solution is far easier. But sadly, more difficult (as our founding fathers warned us) than mere voting. So in reality, that rules you out, doesn't it? Aint we well trained? Mom to 4 feline boys and a human son with Autism. Autism is up what? 400%??? Just a coincedence, right? No need to get angry. I mean, not really, really angry. Somebody might call you unpatriotic. It's just a cost of doing business. I'm reminded of the golden wire in the novel, Watership Down. Best, --Doug -- When one gains a political certainty akin to a loyal sports fan, one has achieved the final tranquility of servitude, a joyous slavery. "If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams, August 1, 1776 |
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Wheat Gluten from China?!?!
"Doug Bashford" wrote in message om... -- Franklin Delano Roosevelt, message to congress, proposing the "Standard Oil" Monopoly Investigation, 1938 ROTFLMAO! And you quote Roosevelt !!!!???? He was and still is the biggest Neo-Liberal Socialist to ever hold the presidency. LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL try again hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha |
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Wheat Gluten from China?!?!
"Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer" wrote in message These deals with China are free trade at it's worst! Maybe Bill Clinton and George Bush should sit down together for a meal of "free trade" wheat gluten resulting from the policies they have been promoting for the last 14 years..... Yup, there you go, you got it right, unlike the nut case above who holds up the Neo-Liberal Socialist Franklin Roosevelt as some sort of sick joke. Neither the Republicans OR the Democraps are to be trusted. They are both playing on the same team, and that team does not have America's best interests at heart. Franklin Roosevelt MY ASS! |
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Wheat Gluten from China?!?!
On Apr 5, 8:50 pm, Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer
These deals with China are free trade at it's worst! Maybe Bill Clinton and George Bush should sit down together for a meal of "free trade" wheat gluten resulting from the policies they have been promoting for the last 14 years..... And while we're being political....does it strike anyone odd that we have free trade with China with all the Communist goings on. Yet we cannot have Cuban Cigars in the US????? Ok, off my political pulpit. I have to go pack for Mars.. |
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Wheat Gluten from China?!?!
On Apr 5, 7:51 pm, Anonyma wrote:
Does anyone else find it ironic that with the surplus of wheat in the US that Canadian and US companies are importing WHEAT from China? They eat a lot of wheat gluten in Asia, and that begs the question of whether or not China or any of China's neighbors is experiencing a new epidemic of liver or kidney disease. It sounds like a lot of plasticware may have gotten in the milling operation. Great Q.A. work there! I wonder if a local manager wasn't throwing old plastic scrap in the mills to increase output tonnage without increasing feedstock costs. Hard to say! I know of a Pizza Hut truck that sat in the parking lot for a week before going out! The thermostat in the freezer was set to 110 degrees C instead of minus 10! The manager just removed the top layer of melted cheese and sent the truck out on delivery! So, any thing can happen and be covered up! Maybe not too many will die! Fertilizer or insecticide sources aren't likely unless fallen wheat was gleaned from the ground. That's another very unpleasant thought, in which case Q.A. is futile since the grain will have an indeterminate and ever changing set of contaminants. Remember, the Chinese vendor claims that it is FOOD GRADE gluten but that they aren't responsible. They just bought the gluten from these neighboring provinces, whose accountability seems to have gone on vacation for the spring. If it were a Japanese or Korean vendor, the managers may very well have committed suicide by now. Huge difference in paradigms between Asian countries. These deals with China are free trade at it's worst! Maybe Bill Clinton and George Bush should sit down together for a meal of "free trade" wheat gluten resulting from the policies they have been promoting for the last 14 years..... It is a money issue like most other things - cheaper to get overseas!: http://www.slate.com/id/2163235/ Un-American Pet FoodWhy do we put Chinese wheat gluten in Fido's kibble? By Michelle Tsai Posted Monday, April 2, 2007, at 7:33 PM ET Download the MP3 audio version of this story here, or sign up for The Explainer's free daily podcast on iTunes. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration blocked imports of wheat gluten from a Chinese company Monday. The agency identified the company as the source of the tainted wheat gluten that caused a massive pet-food recall last week. Given how much wheat is produced by American farmers, why do we need to import wheat gluten? Because it's cheaper than buying domestic gluten. We may be the world's largest exporter of wheat, shipping 1 billion bushels to other countries in last year's growing season. Yet we export relatively little wheat gluten. To extract the gluten from wheat, you have to separate it from the starch, by repeatedly washing and kneading wheat flour. But only four U.S. companies go through this process; last year, they produced roughly 100 million pounds of wheat gluten, about 20 percent of the domestic demand. Almost two-thirds of the more than 400 million pounds we imported came from European Union countries. That's because the Europeans use wheat starch to make sweeteners, which leaves them with a lot of extra gluten. The United States, on the other hand, relies on corn for sweeteners-thus the high-fructose corn syrup in our sodas. Add in Europe's wheat subsidies, and EU nations can sell their wheat gluten for a low price. U.S. wheat-gluten-makers say EU prices are sometimes below American production costs. In addition to EU countries, Australia accounted for more than 18 percent of imported gluten in 2006 and China 14 percent, according to the USDA's Foreign Agricultural Service. Industry insiders say Chinese imports more than doubled from 2005, based on U.S. Census Bureau figures. Our enormous appetite for wheat gluten exacerbates the wheat-gluten trade deficit. We're the world's biggest consumer of wheat gluten today; American manufacturers use it to produce baked goods. Having the right protein content in dough ensures that it will remain intact as it rises. Without the elasticity afforded by the gluten, bread would collapse, yielding a dense, heavy loaf. Wheat gluten also gives vegetarian "fake meat," like DIY seitan, and pet food a meatlike texture and binds together processed foods like chicken nuggets, turkey burgers, and imitation crabmeat. Gluten even makes its way into shampoo and biodegradable sporks. Bonus Explainer: We may be the biggest wheat exporter around, but we're also an importer. The United States bought $304 million worth of wheat from Canada last year, and smaller amounts from Mexico, Hungary, and a few other nations. Got a question about today's news? Ask the Explainer. Explainer thanks Joshua Lagos at the USDA's Foreign Agricultural Service, Ronald Madl of the Bioprocessing and Industrial Value Added Center at Kansas State University, and Steve Pickman of MGP Ingredients. |
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On Apr 5, 6:50 pm, Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer
wrote: Does anyone else find it ironic that with the surplus of wheat in the US that Canadian and US companies are importing WHEAT from China? They eat a lot of wheat gluten in Asia, and that begs the question of whether or not China or any of China's neighbors is experiencing a new epidemic of liver or kidney disease. It sounds like a lot of plasticware may have gotten in the milling operation. Great Q.A. work there! I wonder if a local manager wasn't throwing old plastic scrap in the mills to increase output tonnage without increasing feedstock costs. Fertilizer or insecticide sources aren't likely unless fallen wheat was gleaned from the ground. That's another very unpleasant thought, in which case Q.A. is futile since the grain will have an indeterminate and ever changing set of contaminants. I heard that the melamine was probably added on purpose to make it look like the wheat gluten had a higher protein content than it did! |
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Wheat Gluten from China?!?!
chatnoir wrote:
On Apr 5, 6:50 pm, Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote: Does anyone else find it ironic that with the surplus of wheat in the US that Canadian and US companies are importing WHEAT from China? They eat a lot of wheat gluten in Asia, and that begs the question of whether or not China or any of China's neighbors is experiencing a new epidemic of liver or kidney disease. It sounds like a lot of plasticware may have gotten in the milling operation. Great Q.A. work there! I wonder if a local manager wasn't throwing old plastic scrap in the mills to increase output tonnage without increasing feedstock costs. Fertilizer or insecticide sources aren't likely unless fallen wheat was gleaned from the ground. That's another very unpleasant thought, in which case Q.A. is futile since the grain will have an indeterminate and ever changing set of contaminants. I heard that the melamine was probably added on purpose to make it look like the wheat gluten had a higher protein content than it did! Source of that information? ...was it online? |
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"Joe Canuck" wrote in message ... chatnoir wrote: On Apr 5, 6:50 pm, Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote: Does anyone else find it ironic that with the surplus of wheat in the US that Canadian and US companies are importing WHEAT from China? They eat a lot of wheat gluten in Asia, and that begs the question of whether or not China or any of China's neighbors is experiencing a new epidemic of liver or kidney disease. It sounds like a lot of plasticware may have gotten in the milling operation. Great Q.A. work there! I wonder if a local manager wasn't throwing old plastic scrap in the mills to increase output tonnage without increasing feedstock costs. Fertilizer or insecticide sources aren't likely unless fallen wheat was gleaned from the ground. That's another very unpleasant thought, in which case Q.A. is futile since the grain will have an indeterminate and ever changing set of contaminants. I heard that the melamine was probably added on purpose to make it look like the wheat gluten had a higher protein content than it did! Source of that information? ...was it online? Joe. This was posted with an anon remailer, why do you think that is? |
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