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wrote: altheim wrote: "-L." wrote: wrote: Nope, but as others have said, it's definitely vet time. One of my cats had seizures, which I did not recognize as such. But when I described the symptoms to my vet, she said, "I'm quite sure she was having a seizure." And, one of the times I had that particular cat at the vet, she exhibited the symptoms in the examining room. Vet therefore witnessed it & confirmed "Seizure." Just out of curiousity, what were her symptoms? I have seen some weird seizure symptoms... I'm not quite sure what is meant by 'seizure'. It could mean anything, yet the Op above, writes it 'Seizure' - in uppercase - like it means something specific. I'd be sceptical of any vet who said that. I'd want an explanation. Anyway, the symptom that stands out in my mind is that her legs seem to give way - she falls over - and that is when she begins howling. I wonder if it could be fear rather than pain? There's no frothing at the mouth, no sign of breathlessness or anything like that, and it only lasts a few seconds. -- altheim You need to read up on seizures. They come in all sizes and styles. You are confusing grand mal with petit mal seizures or what you see on the idiot tube as seizures. Many seizures do not have frothing at the mouth. And there is not breathlessness either. Where do you get these ideas? From TV? Please take the time to read up any basic level text on seizures. I had a cat with seizures and there was never ever any frothing or breathlessness --- and the treatment is dirt cheap, usually phenobarbital for cats, not Dilantin which is for dogs, but phenobarbital. There are more modern medicines but these will do. You need to remind the vets of this - most vets in my experience do not know much at all about cats and brains. But it helps to uncover the cause of seizures, or spells or whatever your cat is undergoing. And this will take work on your part. Asking in a newsgroup at this point is sad. But most vets won't have a clue either. So I feel badly for all concerned. If you can afford it, an x-ray of the skull is usually the place to start. An MRI is better but? You are looking for an injury as a start. If not injury, then I don't know what would be the cause, maybe a tumor? You will need an extremely intelligent vet. There are vets who specialize in neurology, usually in vet schools. But even the best vet schools may not have a neurology professor vet. So ask. Do you have the interest and money to check this out? Sometimes they will take in the feline and treat for a reduced cost to show the young and quite inexperienced and clueless student vets. This is painful to watch but part of the process. This was a helpful reply. Thanks. -- altheim |
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wrote: altheim wrote: I think I was deeply mistaken about the 'expertise' here. Read my above post. The treatment is 1/8th grain phenobarbitol twice a day for idiopathic seizures for cats. Make sure you are trained how to give a tiny pill to a cat. I found it not difficult but not that simple either. I just place the pill on the back of her tongue. The cat did not ever bite or scratch me either which I found surprising. But maybe she knew I was helping her. Maybe you can put it in food. The pill is extremely small so easy to deal with. Before you cast aspersions, you should do some basic reading. From your comments, you do not know anything about seizures and appear to be going by what you see in the movies or television. There is expertise in this newsgroup but you have to bring something to the plate or table. Just to bring vague and very wrong suppositions will not be good for your cat or your responses from the newsgroup. If you can up your knowledge, the responses will increase too. ahem That is precisely why I joined this group, but if you read back through the first half dozen replies you won't see much willingness to edify me, beyond instructing me to go to the vet (which I already knew, dammit). Forgive me if I interpreted that as an *inability* to edify me. Most vets won't have the expertise to solve this problem. So fine. I have given you the cure which is extraordinarily cheap. It won't cure cure, but if it's a seizure it will stop the cat from having these terrifying spells, as they used to be called in a different time and place. Again, 1/8th grain phenobarbitol, B.I.D., got it? That's the prescription. An old drug that you can buy a year's supply for a few dollars. But you will need to tell the vet's that. If they look it up in their textbooks, then can verify what I have posted here. Thanks again. -- altheim |
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altheim wrote: wrote: Most vets won't have the expertise to solve this problem. So fine. I have given you the cure which is extraordinarily cheap. It won't cure cure, but if it's a seizure it will stop the cat from having these terrifying spells, as they used to be called in a different time and place. Again, 1/8th grain phenobarbitol, B.I.D., got it? That's the prescription. An old drug that you can buy a year's supply for a few dollars. But you will need to tell the vet's that. If they look it up in their textbooks, then can verify what I have posted here. Thanks again. -- altheim Okay but, ahem, you need to post particulars, basics, like what is the gender and weight of the cat? Is the cat fat? If so, then one has to think of diabetes and what you are seeing is an attack from spikes or dips in the blood sugar. If blood sugar, then post the lab results, so can tell from the glucose levels. IOW, post whatever info you have. From the info or lack of it, one can guess if the vets are careful or just winging it. But weight, gender, and previous history, blood tests, are a start. If it's a seizure, then phenobarbitol for cats. If not a seizure, then diabetes, as someone suggested. Dips in blood sugar caused disorientation and are scary, very scary. And first come the dips, then later the full spikes, so hypoglycemia then hyperglycemia. Think of it this way, your cat is fainting. That's a big sign something is wrong. Heart problems can start with fainting since the heart controls the oxygenated flow of blood to the brain. If a human had this problem, all sorts of questions would be asked. But your cat can't answer. So it's up to you to speak for your cat, which means, all the details you can muster at your disposal, starting with gender, weight, and previous tests. 1. Seizures. 2. Blood sugar drops. 3. Heart irregularities. Just for a start. All the above will cause swoons in mammals. |
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-L. wrote: wrote: Nope, but as others have said, it's definitely vet time. One of my cats had seizures, which I did not recognize as such. But when I described the symptoms to my vet, she said, "I'm quite sure she was having a seizure." And, one of the times I had that particular cat at the vet, she exhibited the symptoms in the examining room. Vet therefore witnessed it & confirmed "Seizure." Just out of curiousity, what were her symptoms? I have seen some weird seizure symptoms... -L. She'd crouch down low, & frantically (*very* frantically) rub the bottom of her chin back & forth against the floor - or whatever surface she was on. This was a good dozen years ago or so... trying to remember if she vocalized immediately before or during each episode, but not sure anymore. Cathy |
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altheim wrote: "-L." wrote: wrote: Nope, but as others have said, it's definitely vet time. One of my cats had seizures, which I did not recognize as such. But when I described the symptoms to my vet, she said, "I'm quite sure she was having a seizure." And, one of the times I had that particular cat at the vet, she exhibited the symptoms in the examining room. Vet therefore witnessed it & confirmed "Seizure." Just out of curiousity, what were her symptoms? I have seen some weird seizure symptoms... I'm not quite sure what is meant by 'seizure'. It could mean anything, yet the Op above, writes it 'Seizure' - in uppercase - like it means something specific. I'd be sceptical of any vet who said that. I'd want an explanation. I wrote it with an upper-case "S", simply because of writing mechanics. IOW, if someone asked, "Would you like a glass of water?", the answer could be "Yes." The "S" was like the "Y" of "Yes". Cathy Anyway, the symptom that stands out in my mind is that her legs seem to give way - she falls over - and that is when she begins howling. I wonder if it could be fear rather than pain? There's no frothing at the mouth, no sign of breathlessness or anything like that, and it only lasts a few seconds. -- altheim |
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"altheim" wrote in message ... wrote: altheim wrote: I should take her to the vet but there is nothing visible to show him. She is otherwise quite healthy. She eats, drinks and 'goes' normally, as far as I can tell. We buy her ordinary supermarket cat food. She sleeps indoors. Not only can the vet see stuff we don't, they know the right questions to ask to find out the stuff you saw but didn't realize it. [snip for brevity] I went to the vet that day, thinking it was an old injury with no treatment. I just wanted to know what it was. I came away knowing my dog had a serious condition that could be controlled easily, but *needed* to be controlled, or it could kill her. Your vet knows a ton more than you do, that's why they studied all this stuff. They will know what to look for, what to check, and what to ask. This isn't in dispute. I coulda just taken the cat to the vet and not bothered with you guys. What is this group for if not to talk about cats health and behaviour? Oh, will you please just **** off and take your cat to the vet? Jesus. |
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altheim wrote: This isn't in dispute. I coulda just taken the cat to the vet and not bothered with you guys. In a case as severe as what you have described, the cat should have been taken in to a vet asap. Your cat is having seizures or possibly has a bloot clot or other serious problem. What is this group for if not to talk about cats health and behaviour? This group should never be considered a substitute for a vet visit! Yes, you can gain knowledge here, but it is not wise to post here *instead* of seeking medical advice from your vet when your cat is having such problems! I think I was deeply mistaken about the 'expertise' here. I think you need to learn what constitutes a serious medical problem for your cat! -L. (either that or we have just been trolled...) |
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"-L." wrote in message oups.com... I think you need to learn what constitutes a serious medical problem for your cat! I am trying to get my mind around *anyone* who would watch their cat "writhing in agony" and not drop everything and get it to the vet. |
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Hi, For some reason there are some very vicious heartless lame creeps in this group. But the ones that care TRULY out number the few asses that post repeatedly. I just delete them. It is sad so many have nothing else to do in their lives than to try and hurt others. I dont understand why the moderator puts up with it. If this was my group they would be LONG gone! I hope the vet finds out what is going on with kitty. Prayers to you and yours- Sarah |
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Thanks for the info--makes sense now!
Sarah |
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