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Exotic Snow Bengal/ Manx, extra toed Kittens for sale (150.00 & shipping)
Enigma wrote: wrote: -L. wrote: wrote: Enigma wrote: I have two of my babies I have to part with. Bull****. You have two of your "babies" you have to SELL. You're the worst of the worst. I bet you don't know squat **** about genetics in breeding, past the shallow cosmetic traits you're trying to selectively breed. Responsible breeders don't give a **** what you sell your kittens for -- polydactylism is a genetic deformity, not a desirable trait. CFA doesn't even allow them to show, IIRC. I'm guessing you don't have a clue genetically what you're doing, and I just hope you don't end up with some severely deformed kittens out of your breeding experiments. You don't mention PKD testing, you don't mention a thing about genetic *health issues*. You make me want to throw up. Sherry Plus "good" breeders - if there is such a thing which I think there is not - have waiting lists for their animals 10 people long. AFAIC, they're all assholes. -L. Oh, absolutely. If she's trying to sell kittens over the internet, there's more than meets the eye. If it was legit, she'd have no problem selling the kittens locally. It's probably a kitten mill and needs to be checked out. Sherry Boy for cat lovers most of you are sure a hateful group, Let me address some of the more serious questions. Extra toes are not a deformity anymore; Science has found out it's actually a dominant trait, that's why we are seeing it more and more. It has never caused different or other deformities as you call it. It also is a dominant trait in humans but because people worried about what others thought, the doctors recommended for them to be removed shortly after birth so they wouldn't be out of place, it was thought to be an embarrassment in the past days. There is a cat that is accepted for show with extra toes, it's the Pixie Bob which also is a type of Manx. So my guess is that the polydactyl and short tail is from that type of cat. But I have no proof, because these cats are not papered. And you guys are right I'm not a breeder, so I don't have a waiting list. I live in a small town surrounded by ranchers, and we must travel 200 miles to get any major stuff, and sadly there are many feral cats in this town. Also, in the trailer park next door. Every year come spring, I end up rescuing from 1 to 3 kittens when the mowers start there mowing. This of course Frightens the feral mother cats and they lose some of there young trying move them (some get lost). This lady (Lois) I know has paid and got many peoples cats fixed, that couldn't afford it, about 3 a year. She is retired and on a fixed income, she is my friend and I had hoped to use any money collected to pay on her vet bills.She will never accept any money from anyone.. She also drives them to a vet over 200 miles away and back. Sorry if I offended anyone. I thought It would have been a nice Christmas present and a good way to help her meet some of the cost for all the cats she gets spayed & neuteres, and give someone a real break in price for someone who might want a Bengal for a pet, not to show.. For me, I'm disabled so I spend all my time at home with them, and My chows. I got lucky to have gotten these two, These two allready had the hybred Manx and Pixie Bob crossed with Bengal. My three favorite type of cats all in one. They have had all there shots; with a record of the people they came from and there parents. As for health problems I know nothing about the things you've mentioned, due to the fact that I have had cats all my life and I have never seen any health problems except for in a cat I rescued that had spinal Bifida, this cat would have been killed because this problem, is a deformity, that takes a great deal of extra care. But as long as she's happy to live with her conditions I love her enough to deal with it. And yes Bengals have a different personality. Mine I love dearly. The biggest difference that I noticed is; from the day we brought them home, they are total trusting to our Chow dogs? But Naula still doesn't trust any other cats except Zorro, she runs to him every day as if to greet him, shares affection, and then settles in close to where he is. It's like she has picked him and only him as her mate? They don't like to be held and snuggled a lot, but they do come over too me for a quick pet as to say hi , but every night she crawls upon my side facing the door and then sleeps, as if she's guarding me when I'm asleep. Zorro has some affectionate times, being the charmer that he is, every night before bedtime he runs in and insists on saying hi by making sure that I get hugs and him too for about 15 minutes, then he's done with me, next my Chow chow that sleeps on the end of my bed, Zorro massages him up and down his back. Then sleeps there. They have never shown any fear to our dogs, they even trusted there babies by them.???? Oh someone said our Address and links are bogus, I checked and the number I forgot to give the prefix, . If you have anything else you want express please do it here, or email me direct. And I will give you the phone #. .but please don't call the phone number with rude comments the phone is my message phone wich is Lois's phone What's a troll anyway? and a kitten mill? Enigma, at |
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Exotic Snow Bengal/ Manx, extra toed Kittens for sale (150.00 & shipping)
"Enigma" wrote in message oups.com... Boy for cat lovers most of you are sure a hateful group, Let me address some of the more serious questions. Right. There is no good reason for you to breed these cats, asswipe. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Exotic Snow Bengal/ Manx, extra toed Kittens for sale (150.00 & shipping)
Enigma wrote: Oh God where should I start... Extra toes are not a deformity anymore; Science has found out it's actually a dominant trait, that's why we are seeing it more and more. That's complete and utter bull****. Cats don't naturally have 6 toes. It has never caused different or other deformities as you call it. It also is a dominant trait in humans but because people worried about what others thought, the doctors recommended for them to be removed shortly after birth so they wouldn't be out of place, it was thought to be an embarrassment in the past days. This is bull**** as well. If polydactyly was dominant in humans we would all have 6 fingers. Polydactyly is a mutation in humans (and cats). It is most notably seen in subsequent generations of humans where atomic bombs have been detonated. There is a cat that is accepted for show with extra toes, it's the Pixie Bob which also is a type of Manx. Not by any reputable cat association. So my guess is that the polydactyl and short tail is from that type of cat. But I have no proof, because these cats are not papered. Manx cats have a defomity of the spinal column. Many manx cats have continuous problems with defecation - constipation and low tonation of the muscles in the perianal region. And you guys are right I'm not a breeder, so I don't have a waiting list. So you shouldn't be breeding cats. Period. Of any kind. I live in a small town surrounded by ranchers, and we must travel 200 miles to get any major stuff, and sadly there are many feral cats in this town. Also, in the trailer park next door. Every year come spring, I end up rescuing from 1 to 3 kittens when the mowers start there mowing. This of course Frightens the feral mother cats and they lose some of there young trying move them (some get lost). This lady (Lois) I know has paid and got many peoples cats fixed, that couldn't afford it, about 3 a year. She is retired and on a fixed income, she is my friend and I had hoped to use any money collected to pay on her vet bills.She will never accept any money from anyone.. She also drives them to a vet over 200 miles away and back. Sorry if I offended anyone. I thought It would have been a nice Christmas present Animals should never be given as a gift. What happens to that cute little Christmas kitten is that, come Summer, it isn't so cute and cuddly any more, goes into heat and/or starts to spray, gets dumped outdoors to breed and start the ugly cycle again, get eaten by coyotes, hit by a car, and/or gets dumped at the local shelter. and a good way to help her meet some of the cost for all the cats she gets spayed & neuteres, and give someone a real break in price for someone who might want a Bengal for a pet, not to show.. If you want to help her give her cash anonymously. For me, I'm disabled so I spend all my time at home with them, and My chows. I got lucky to have gotten these two, These two allready had the hybred Manx and Pixie Bob crossed with Bengal. In other words, they're moggies (mixed breeds) - just like all other cats at the shelters in every city in every state in the US. There is nothing "special" about the cats you have. My three favorite type of cats all in one. Let me guess - because of the way they look! They have had all there shots; with a record of the people they came from and there parents. Whooppeee dooo! I can give you a paper that says they are nothing but run-of-the mill cats bread by idiots who don't know any better...Please, please get your cats and kittens spayed and neutered immediately. As for health problems I know nothing about the things you've mentioned, Does that not surprise me...? due to the fact that I have had cats all my life and I have never seen any health problems /me whacks head against desk. except for in a cat I rescued that had spinal Bifida, this cat would have been killed because this problem, is a deformity, that takes a great deal of extra care. But as long as she's happy to live with her conditions I love her enough to deal with it. Let me guess. This kitten was a product of breeding a manx...? And yes Bengals have a different personality. Mine I love dearly. The biggest difference that I noticed is; from the day we brought them home, they are total trusting to our Chow dogs? But Naula still doesn't trust any other cats except Zorro, she runs to him every day as if to greet him, shares affection, and then settles in close to where he is. It's like she has picked him and only him as her mate? They don't like to be held and snuggled a lot, but they do come over too me for a quick pet as to say hi , but every night she crawls upon my side facing the door and then sleeps, as if she's guarding me when I'm asleep. Zorro has some affectionate times, being the charmer that he is, every night before bedtime he runs in and insists on saying hi by making sure that I get hugs and him too for about 15 minutes, then he's done with me, next my Chow chow that sleeps on the end of my bed, Zorro massages him up and down his back. Then sleeps there. They have never shown any fear to our dogs, they even trusted there babies by them.???? Look - I am sure you are a very nice lady. But breeding cats is something that should only be done with the true interest of the breed in mind, by people who have an in-depth knowledge of the genetics of the breed, breed-associated illnesses and genetic problems, and who have a lot of experience in dealing with the breed and cats in general. Oh someone said our Address and links are bogus, I checked and the number I forgot to give the prefix, . If you have anything else you want express please do it here, or email me direct. And I will give you the phone #. .but please don't call the phone number with rude comments the phone is my message phone wich is Lois's phone What's a troll anyway? A troll is someone who posts to newsgroups merely to inflame others. and a kitten mill? A kitten mill is a breeding facility which churns out hundreds of cats a year for profit alone, without any regard for the breed, cat health, welfare or humanity. You might check out the newsgroup rec.pets.cats.anecdotes. I think it's right up your alley... -L. |
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Exotic Snow Bengal/ Manx, extra toed Kittens for sale (150.00 & shipping)
cybercat wrote: "Enigma" wrote in message oups.com... Boy for cat lovers most of you are sure a hateful group, Let me address some of the more serious questions. Right. There is no good reason for you to breed these cats, asswipe. Honestly, she's a case of Simply Doesn't Know Any Better. Seriously. -L. |
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Exotic Snow Bengal/ Manx, extra toed Kittens for sale (150.00 & shipping)
Enigma wrote: Enigma wrote: wrote: -L. wrote: wrote: Enigma wrote: I have two of my babies I have to part with. Bull****. You have two of your "babies" you have to SELL. You're the worst of the worst. I bet you don't know squat **** about genetics in breeding, past the shallow cosmetic traits you're trying to selectively breed. Responsible breeders don't give a **** what you sell your kittens for -- polydactylism is a genetic deformity, not a desirable trait. CFA doesn't even allow them to show, IIRC. I'm guessing you don't have a clue genetically what you're doing, and I just hope you don't end up with some severely deformed kittens out of your breeding experiments. You don't mention PKD testing, you don't mention a thing about genetic *health issues*. You make me want to throw up. Sherry Plus "good" breeders - if there is such a thing which I think there is not - have waiting lists for their animals 10 people long. AFAIC, they're all assholes. -L. Oh, absolutely. If she's trying to sell kittens over the internet, there's more than meets the eye. If it was legit, she'd have no problem selling the kittens locally. It's probably a kitten mill and needs to be checked out. Sherry Boy for cat lovers most of you are sure a hateful group, Let me address some of the more serious questions. Extra toes are not a deformity anymore; Science has found out it's actually a dominant trait, that's why we are seeing it more and more. It has never caused different or other deformities as you call it. It also is a dominant trait in humans but because people worried about what others thought, the doctors recommended for them to be removed shortly after birth so they wouldn't be out of place, it was thought to be an embarrassment in the past days. There is a cat that is accepted for show with extra toes, it's the Pixie Bob which also is a type of Manx. So my guess is that the polydactyl and short tail is from that type of cat. But I have no proof, because these cats are not papered. And you guys are right I'm not a breeder, so I don't have a waiting list. I live in a small town surrounded by ranchers, and we must travel 200 miles to get any major stuff, and sadly there are many feral cats in this town. Also, in the trailer park next door. Every year come spring, I end up rescuing from 1 to 3 kittens when the mowers start there mowing. This of course Frightens the feral mother cats and they lose some of there young trying move them (some get lost). This lady (Lois) I know has paid and got many peoples cats fixed, that couldn't afford it, about 3 a year. She is retired and on a fixed income, she is my friend and I had hoped to use any money collected to pay on her vet bills.She will never accept any money from anyone.. She also drives them to a vet over 200 miles away and back. Sorry if I offended anyone. I thought It would have been a nice Christmas present and a good way to help her meet some of the cost for all the cats she gets spayed & neuteres, and give someone a real break in price for someone who might want a Bengal for a pet, not to show.. For me, I'm disabled so I spend all my time at home with them, and My chows. I got lucky to have gotten these two, These two allready had the hybred Manx and Pixie Bob crossed with Bengal. My three favorite type of cats all in one. They have had all there shots; with a record of the people they came from and there parents. As for health problems I know nothing about the things you've mentioned, due to the fact that I have had cats all my life and I have never seen any health problems except for in a cat I rescued that had spinal Bifida, this cat would have been killed because this problem, is a deformity, that takes a great deal of extra care. But as long as she's happy to live with her conditions I love her enough to deal with it. And yes Bengals have a different personality. Mine I love dearly. The biggest difference that I noticed is; from the day we brought them home, they are total trusting to our Chow dogs? But Naula still doesn't trust any other cats except Zorro, she runs to him every day as if to greet him, shares affection, and then settles in close to where he is. It's like she has picked him and only him as her mate? They don't like to be held and snuggled a lot, but they do come over too me for a quick pet as to say hi , but every night she crawls upon my side facing the door and then sleeps, as if she's guarding me when I'm asleep. Zorro has some affectionate times, being the charmer that he is, every night before bedtime he runs in and insists on saying hi by making sure that I get hugs and him too for about 15 minutes, then he's done with me, next my Chow chow that sleeps on the end of my bed, Zorro massages him up and down his back. Then sleeps there. They have never shown any fear to our dogs, they even trusted there babies by them.???? Oh someone said our Address and links are bogus, I checked and the number I forgot to give the prefix, . If you have anything else you want express please do it here, or email me direct. And I will give you the phone #. .but please don't call the phone number with rude comments the phone is my message phone wich is Lois's phone What's a troll anyway? and a kitten mill? Enigma, at Look. You seem like a nice lady and I'm sure you love your cats. But please, just answer me this. You already see your friend Lois desperately trying to curb cat overpopulation, one cat at a time. Chipping away at an overwhelming problem with her own money. You've seen her, no doubt, try to home some of these cats. You probably know how hard that is. You probably know that most shelters are already filled with homeless cats. Then why. Oh, why. Are you deliberately bringing more cats into the world? Sherry |
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Enigma wrote: Sorry if I offended anyone. I thought It would have been a nice Christmas present and a good way to help her meet some of the cost for all the cats she gets spayed & neuteres, and give someone a real break in price for someone who might want a Bengal for a pet, not to show.. The worst thing would be to give one of these cats as a Christmas gift. A cat is a living, breathing being that needs a lifetime commitment of care, and should not be given to someone on a whim. |
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PawsForThought wrote: Enigma wrote: Sorry if I offended anyone. I thought It would have been a nice Christmas present and a good way to help her meet some of the cost for all the cats she gets spayed & neuteres, and give someone a real break in price for someone who might want a Bengal for a pet, not to show.. The worst thing would be to give one of these cats as a Christmas gift. A cat is a living, breathing being that needs a lifetime commitment of care, and should not be given to someone on a whim. A cat is a horrible Christmas present, as a surprise present.. It will be your companion for the rest of its life. Even a child should be able to choose his own cat/kitten. A child too young to choose, is too young to have a cat anyway. Sherry |
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