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Old April 4th 11, 04:29 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
CatNipped[_5_]
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Default OT - I'm SO Discouraged

Granted, I was carrying a lot of fluid (my feet and hands were twice their
normal size), but at the surgeon's office I weighed in at 104. The day I
was discharged from the hospital I weighed myself on my digital scale and it
showed 104.0.

Well, I just weighed myself again and I weighed 97.6! That's 6.4 pounds I
lost in two days!!! The surgeon won't do the surgery to reverse the
ileostomy until I gain at least 20 - 25 pounds, and I can't do that going
backwards.

Eating and drinking sugary/high fat foods didn't help - they just gave me
diarrhea and made the situation worse.

Back on-topic... does anyone have any suggestions / recipes for high caloric
/ high protein meals and snacks?

--
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CatNipped
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Old April 4th 11, 05:29 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Sherry
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Default OT - I'm SO Discouraged

On Apr 3, 10:29*pm, "CatNipped" wrote:
Granted, I was carrying a lot of fluid (my feet and hands were twice their
normal size), but at the surgeon's office I weighed in at 104. *The day I
was discharged from the hospital I weighed myself on my digital scale and it
showed 104.0.

Well, I just weighed myself again and I weighed 97.6! *That's 6.4 pounds I
lost in two days!!! *The surgeon won't do the surgery to reverse the
ileostomy until I gain at least 20 - 25 pounds, and I can't do that going
backwards.

Eating and drinking sugary/high fat foods didn't help - they just gave me
diarrhea and made the situation worse.

Back on-topic... does anyone have any suggestions / recipes for high caloric
/ high protein meals and snacks?

--
Hugs,

CatNipped


You've actually gained some weight since this ordeal started -- how
did you manage that? Didn't you weigh
88 or so before it all started? Maybe there's something about hospital
food that agrees with you.
But seriously, with all your issues, I think you should see a
nutritionist. The things that seem to work
for me (or others) may excaberate your colon issues. Surely they have
an arsenal of supplements or
protein shakes that you can tolerate.
I've found that gaining weight is more difficult and slow than I
thought. It's almost like dieting to lose weight.
It's slow, and the body seems to plateau on a given number and you
don't think you're ever going to get
past it. My personal faves are nuts (good fat), canned fruit (with
heavy syrup), supplementing with a Boost
drink. And never, ever, skipping meals OR thinking you can just
substitute Ensure or Boost for a meal.
I switched to pancakes with syrup for breakfast and saw almost an
immediate, permanent gain.
The biggest obstacle to overcome was never, ever skipping a meal. And
I've made a dedicated effort to
eat bigger portions of the regular heart-healthy food that I've always
eaten.
Twenty-five pounds is an awful lot for your to gain, and that
surprises me that it's recommended for someone
with Chronic Heart Failure. Your heart will have to work that much
harder with the extra weight.
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Old April 4th 11, 06:12 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
MaryL
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Default OT - I'm SO Discouraged


"CatNipped" wrote in message
...
Granted, I was carrying a lot of fluid (my feet and hands were twice their
normal size), but at the surgeon's office I weighed in at 104. The day I
was discharged from the hospital I weighed myself on my digital scale and
it showed 104.0.

Well, I just weighed myself again and I weighed 97.6! That's 6.4 pounds I
lost in two days!!! The surgeon won't do the surgery to reverse the
ileostomy until I gain at least 20 - 25 pounds, and I can't do that going
backwards.

Eating and drinking sugary/high fat foods didn't help - they just gave me
diarrhea and made the situation worse.

Back on-topic... does anyone have any suggestions / recipes for high
caloric / high protein meals and snacks?

--
Hugs,

CatNipped
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I agree with Sherry. You probably should see a nutritionist/dietician. Be
sure to get a physician's prescription to see one (often associated with a
hospital) so your insurance will pay for it.

I assume you were being given fluids while you were in the hospital. If so,
that can be the solution to your weight gain. I gained a tremendous amount
of weight in a very short time when I was in the hospital, but I also lost
it very quickly after I was released because it was actually fluid gain.

MaryL

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Old April 4th 11, 04:50 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
CatNipped[_5_]
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Default OT - I'm SO Discouraged

He says that if I don't gain weight it means that the intestines will not be
able to sustain me after the ileostomy is reversed. So he's using it as an
indicator for whether or not to do the surgery. I don't really know the
whys and wherefores, he's a bit taciturn (you know how surgeons only like to
see their patients unconscious).

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"hopitus" wrote in message
...
On Apr 3, 9:29 pm, "CatNipped" wrote:
Granted, I was carrying a lot of fluid (my feet and hands were twice their
normal size), but at the surgeon's office I weighed in at 104. The day I
was discharged from the hospital I weighed myself on my digital scale and
it
showed 104.0.
Well, I just weighed myself again and I weighed 97.6! That's 6.4 pounds I
lost in two days!!! The surgeon won't do the surgery to reverse the
ileostomy until I gain at least 20 - 25 pounds, and I can't do that going
backwards.
Eating and drinking sugary/high fat foods didn't help - they just gave me
diarrhea and made the situation worse.
Back on-topic... does anyone have any suggestions / recipes for high
caloric
/ high protein meals and snacks?
Hugs,
CatNipped


I can't see where recipes are going to do you any good because from
what you
say, you (for now) are unable to cook. I was going to suggest parking
yourself
before the tv and having the DH get you lotsa fast food from every
drive-by in
town....but something rang a bell in my mind from something I learned
in the
school I attended before qualifying for medical work. There is a key
sentence
in this wiki definition which explains, at least to me, the reason you
don't seem
to be able to gain much weight at all. It states the function of small
bowel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_intestine

You also say a good portion of yiour small bowel has been
disconnected.
If I am correct, you are seriously lacking much of the digestive
process for
food intake absorption (small bowel) and no matter what you eat, this
mechanical anatomy state will prevent your goal.
Your GI surgeon knows all this and a great deal more. Is he a few
sandwiches
short of a picnic for ordering you to gain weight?


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Old April 4th 11, 05:19 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
CatNipped[_5_]
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Default OT - I'm SO Discouraged

"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message
. ..

"CatNipped" wrote in message
...
Granted, I was carrying a lot of fluid (my feet and hands were twice
their normal size), but at the surgeon's office I weighed in at 104. The
day I was discharged from the hospital I weighed myself on my digital
scale and it showed 104.0.

Well, I just weighed myself again and I weighed 97.6! That's 6.4 pounds
I lost in two days!!! The surgeon won't do the surgery to reverse the
ileostomy until I gain at least 20 - 25 pounds, and I can't do that going
backwards.

Eating and drinking sugary/high fat foods didn't help - they just gave me
diarrhea and made the situation worse.

Back on-topic... does anyone have any suggestions / recipes for high
caloric / high protein meals and snacks?

--
Hugs,

CatNipped
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See the RPCA FAQ site, by Mark Edwards, at:
http://www.professional-geek.com/rpcablog/

Email: L(dot)T(dot)Crews(at)comcast(dot)net




I agree with Sherry. You probably should see a nutritionist/dietician.
Be sure to get a physician's prescription to see one (often associated
with a hospital) so your insurance will pay for it.

I assume you were being given fluids while you were in the hospital. If
so, that can be the solution to your weight gain. I gained a tremendous
amount of weight in a very short time when I was in the hospital, but I
also lost it very quickly after I was released because it was actually
fluid gain.

MaryL


Yes, I was given fluids - and I was very swollen with edema. But I didn't
figure on *6 pounds* of fluid.



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Old April 4th 11, 07:08 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Sophia[_3_]
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Default OT - I'm SO Discouraged

Please, please, please CN involve a medical professional. I have been
where you are now, I have lost 5 ft (thankfully humans have 29 ft) of
small and large bowel. I could eat nothing without getting sick - to
be delicate - both uh, ends. I had a feeding tube for awhile to gain
weight. To counteract the disfunction of the bile acids I was on a
med called Cholestran and later Questran. They are both primarily
cholesterol drugs, but they also work for the condition. They may use
something else now. My GI prescribed them. The general surgeon who
did my surgeries was worthless when it came to what you describe.

Even today I must eat ONLY very low or no fiber foods AND very low
carbs. Also no red meat protein. Very limited specific kinds of
fats. No nuts, nothing with seeds - like strawberries. Fiber and
carbs in cases like yours and mine can result in an impaction and or
partial obstructions. Without my nutrionist I would be in big
trouble. Also, if not already doing so, a stool softener not a
laxative can keep constipation at it's dangers away. Immodium
regularly treats the other.

Do not try this on your own. All my research never came up with what
my nutrionist did and she worked in full harmony with my GI and PCP
doc.

My GI knew what the prob was right away when he read the post op
report.

Do not let your PCP or anyone else blow you off.

Many, many purrs.

Sophia



On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 22:29:20 -0500, "CatNipped"
wrote:

Granted, I was carrying a lot of fluid (my feet and hands were twice their
normal size), but at the surgeon's office I weighed in at 104. The day I
was discharged from the hospital I weighed myself on my digital scale and it
showed 104.0.

Well, I just weighed myself again and I weighed 97.6! That's 6.4 pounds I
lost in two days!!! The surgeon won't do the surgery to reverse the
ileostomy until I gain at least 20 - 25 pounds, and I can't do that going
backwards.

Eating and drinking sugary/high fat foods didn't help - they just gave me
diarrhea and made the situation worse.

Back on-topic... does anyone have any suggestions / recipes for high caloric
/ high protein meals and snacks?

  #7  
Old April 4th 11, 08:12 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
MaryL
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Default OT - I'm SO Discouraged


"CatNipped" wrote in message
...
"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message
. ..

"CatNipped" wrote in message
...
Granted, I was carrying a lot of fluid (my feet and hands were twice
their normal size), but at the surgeon's office I weighed in at 104.
The day I was discharged from the hospital I weighed myself on my
digital scale and it showed 104.0.

Well, I just weighed myself again and I weighed 97.6! That's 6.4 pounds
I lost in two days!!! The surgeon won't do the surgery to reverse the
ileostomy until I gain at least 20 - 25 pounds, and I can't do that
going backwards.

Eating and drinking sugary/high fat foods didn't help - they just gave
me diarrhea and made the situation worse.

Back on-topic... does anyone have any suggestions / recipes for high
caloric / high protein meals and snacks?

--
Hugs,

CatNipped
See all our masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped

See the RPCA FAQ site, by Mark Edwards, at:
http://www.professional-geek.com/rpcablog/

Email: L(dot)T(dot)Crews(at)comcast(dot)net




I agree with Sherry. You probably should see a nutritionist/dietician.
Be sure to get a physician's prescription to see one (often associated
with a hospital) so your insurance will pay for it.

I assume you were being given fluids while you were in the hospital. If
so, that can be the solution to your weight gain. I gained a tremendous
amount of weight in a very short time when I was in the hospital, but I
also lost it very quickly after I was released because it was actually
fluid gain.

MaryL


Yes, I was given fluids - and I was very swollen with edema. But I didn't
figure on *6 pounds* of fluid.



--
Hugs,

CatNipped


I gained an unbelievable *16 pounds* of fluid after only *3 days* in the
hospital! My surgeon was not surprised and said it should all be "gone"
within a couple of weeks. He was right--and note that it took longer to
lose than to gain. However, it was not true weight gain. Obviously, it was
fluids.

MaryL

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Old April 4th 11, 10:07 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
CatNipped[_5_]
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Default OT - I'm SO Discouraged - AAARRRGGGHHH!!!

Got on the digital scale just now and weighed 94.4 pounds. I know I was
carrying a lot of fluid and had a stomach flu (I'm still forcing myself to
eat and keep it down, but it's hard), but 9.6 pounds in three days!!!! I'm
never going to "qualify" for the reversal surgery. I could cream, punch a
pillow, kick a chair, but frankly, I'm so tired and I hurt so much that I
just can't get up the energy for any of that.

Sorry, I'll try very hard to cut down on the number of "Lori's boring
medical issues" posts.

--
Hugs,

CatNipped
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"CatNipped" wrote in message
...
Granted, I was carrying a lot of fluid (my feet and hands were twice their
normal size), but at the surgeon's office I weighed in at 104. The day I
was discharged from the hospital I weighed myself on my digital scale and
it showed 104.0.

Well, I just weighed myself again and I weighed 97.6! That's 6.4 pounds I
lost in two days!!! The surgeon won't do the surgery to reverse the
ileostomy until I gain at least 20 - 25 pounds, and I can't do that going
backwards.

Eating and drinking sugary/high fat foods didn't help - they just gave me
diarrhea and made the situation worse.

Back on-topic... does anyone have any suggestions / recipes for high
caloric / high protein meals and snacks?

--
Hugs,

CatNipped
See all our masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped

See the RPCA FAQ site, by Mark Edwards, at:
http://www.professional-geek.com/rpcablog/

Email: L(dot)T(dot)Crews(at)comcast(dot)net





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Old April 4th 11, 10:36 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
CatNipped[_5_]
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Default OT - I'm SO Discouraged - AAARRRGGGHHH!!!

Ummm...errrr, that was supposed to be *SCREAM*. Sorry about the lascivious
typo - my cheeks are on fire.

--
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CatNipped
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"CatNipped" wrote in message
...
Got on the digital scale just now and weighed 94.4 pounds. I know I was
carrying a lot of fluid and had a stomach flu (I'm still forcing myself to
eat and keep it down, but it's hard), but 9.6 pounds in three days!!!!
I'm never going to "qualify" for the reversal surgery. I could cream,
punch a pillow, kick a chair, but frankly, I'm so tired and I hurt so much
that I just can't get up the energy for any of that.

Sorry, I'll try very hard to cut down on the number of "Lori's boring
medical issues" posts.

--
Hugs,

CatNipped
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"CatNipped" wrote in message
...
Granted, I was carrying a lot of fluid (my feet and hands were twice
their normal size), but at the surgeon's office I weighed in at 104. The
day I was discharged from the hospital I weighed myself on my digital
scale and it showed 104.0.

Well, I just weighed myself again and I weighed 97.6! That's 6.4 pounds
I lost in two days!!! The surgeon won't do the surgery to reverse the
ileostomy until I gain at least 20 - 25 pounds, and I can't do that going
backwards.

Eating and drinking sugary/high fat foods didn't help - they just gave me
diarrhea and made the situation worse.

Back on-topic... does anyone have any suggestions / recipes for high
caloric / high protein meals and snacks?

--
Hugs,

CatNipped
See all our masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped

See the RPCA FAQ site, by Mark Edwards, at:
http://www.professional-geek.com/rpcablog/

Email: L(dot)T(dot)Crews(at)comcast(dot)net







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Old April 4th 11, 11:39 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Joy
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Default OT - I'm SO Discouraged - AAARRRGGGHHH!!!

I knew you meant "scream". Under the circumstances, I think we're all
willing to overlook an occasional typo. And, as far as I'm concerned, feel
free to vent here. You need some outlet for your frustration. Anybody who
doesn't want to read it doesn't have to.

--

Joy

Basically everything is subject to change without notice

"CatNipped" wrote in message
...
Ummm...errrr, that was supposed to be *SCREAM*. Sorry about the
lascivious typo - my cheeks are on fire.

--
Hugs,

CatNipped
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"CatNipped" wrote in message
...
Got on the digital scale just now and weighed 94.4 pounds. I know I was
carrying a lot of fluid and had a stomach flu (I'm still forcing myself
to eat and keep it down, but it's hard), but 9.6 pounds in three days!!!!
I'm never going to "qualify" for the reversal surgery. I could cream,
punch a pillow, kick a chair, but frankly, I'm so tired and I hurt so
much that I just can't get up the energy for any of that.

Sorry, I'll try very hard to cut down on the number of "Lori's boring
medical issues" posts.

--
Hugs,

CatNipped
See all our masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped

See the RPCA FAQ site, by Mark Edwards, at:
http://www.professional-geek.com/rpcablog/

Email: L(dot)T(dot)Crews(at)comcast(dot)net


"CatNipped" wrote in message
...
Granted, I was carrying a lot of fluid (my feet and hands were twice
their normal size), but at the surgeon's office I weighed in at 104.
The day I was discharged from the hospital I weighed myself on my
digital scale and it showed 104.0.

Well, I just weighed myself again and I weighed 97.6! That's 6.4 pounds
I lost in two days!!! The surgeon won't do the surgery to reverse the
ileostomy until I gain at least 20 - 25 pounds, and I can't do that
going backwards.

Eating and drinking sugary/high fat foods didn't help - they just gave
me diarrhea and made the situation worse.

Back on-topic... does anyone have any suggestions / recipes for high
caloric / high protein meals and snacks?

--
Hugs,

CatNipped
See all our masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped

See the RPCA FAQ site, by Mark Edwards, at:
http://www.professional-geek.com/rpcablog/

Email: L(dot)T(dot)Crews(at)comcast(dot)net









 




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