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[OT] Parrot saves baby's life
Pretty amazing!
Fortunately this post is completely off-topic, and there are no cats in it. http://www.brighthub.com/pets/birds/articles/92107.aspx Joyce -- Something you'll never hear an 8-year-old say: "Nana, will you spit on your hankie and wipe the gravy off my face?" |
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wrote in message ... Pretty amazing! Fortunately this post is completely off-topic, and there are no cats in it. http://www.brighthub.com/pets/birds/articles/92107.aspx Joyce This is wonderful! Parrots can indeed be amazing (I miss Peaches! who is a lovebird, not a Quaker parrot, but they look remarkably similiar). One thing I don't understand is the article says "Quaker parrots are deemed "illegal Avians" in Colorado and 13 other states, a little known battle that has been waging between the states and the federal government." Why on earth would Quaker parrots be illegal? Jill |
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"jmcquown" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... Pretty amazing! Fortunately this post is completely off-topic, and there are no cats in it. http://www.brighthub.com/pets/birds/articles/92107.aspx Joyce This is wonderful! Parrots can indeed be amazing (I miss Peaches! who is a lovebird, not a Quaker parrot, but they look remarkably similiar). One thing I don't understand is the article says "Quaker parrots are deemed "illegal Avians" in Colorado and 13 other states, a little known battle that has been waging between the states and the federal government." Why on earth would Quaker parrots be illegal? Jill They are considered to be a threat to native birds, and there are fears that they may become agricultural pests. There are some states where they are legal to own but illegal to sell or breed, and some states prohibit ownership of quaker parrots. MaryL |
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"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message . .. "jmcquown" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... Pretty amazing! Fortunately this post is completely off-topic, and there are no cats in it. http://www.brighthub.com/pets/birds/articles/92107.aspx Joyce This is wonderful! Parrots can indeed be amazing (I miss Peaches! who is a lovebird, not a Quaker parrot, but they look remarkably similiar). One thing I don't understand is the article says "Quaker parrots are deemed "illegal Avians" in Colorado and 13 other states, a little known battle that has been waging between the states and the federal government." Why on earth would Quaker parrots be illegal? Jill They are considered to be a threat to native birds, and there are fears that they may become agricultural pests. There are some states where they are legal to own but illegal to sell or breed, and some states prohibit ownership of quaker parrots. MaryL That's nuts! Most people I know don't let their parrots fly around loose outside. They're expensive birds so that would be reckless indeed. I'm not saying they can't escape, lots of pet birds do. I got my first parakeet when I was 3 years old because someone wasn't paying attention and the bird got out. My brother caught him down by the creek in the backyard in Virginia. He was a blue pied parakeet and had a broken beak. I named him Robinson Crusoe. I seriously doubt small parrots like a Quaker would harm native birds or crops. Agricultural pests? What, native birds don't eat whatever they can find? Tell that to the crows in my back yard. LOL I'm pretty sure they're picking their way through the tomato fields a few miles from here. Jill ---loves cats and birds alike |
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"jmcquown" wrote in message ... "MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message . .. "jmcquown" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... Pretty amazing! Fortunately this post is completely off-topic, and there are no cats in it. http://www.brighthub.com/pets/birds/articles/92107.aspx Joyce This is wonderful! Parrots can indeed be amazing (I miss Peaches! who is a lovebird, not a Quaker parrot, but they look remarkably similiar). One thing I don't understand is the article says "Quaker parrots are deemed "illegal Avians" in Colorado and 13 other states, a little known battle that has been waging between the states and the federal government." Why on earth would Quaker parrots be illegal? Jill They are considered to be a threat to native birds, and there are fears that they may become agricultural pests. There are some states where they are legal to own but illegal to sell or breed, and some states prohibit ownership of quaker parrots. MaryL That's nuts! Most people I know don't let their parrots fly around loose outside. They're expensive birds so that would be reckless indeed. I'm not saying they can't escape, lots of pet birds do. I got my first parakeet when I was 3 years old because someone wasn't paying attention and the bird got out. My brother caught him down by the creek in the backyard in Virginia. He was a blue pied parakeet and had a broken beak. I named him Robinson Crusoe. I seriously doubt small parrots like a Quaker would harm native birds or crops. Agricultural pests? What, native birds don't eat whatever they can find? Tell that to the crows in my back yard. LOL I'm pretty sure they're picking their way through the tomato fields a few miles from here. Jill ---loves cats and birds alike There are feral colonies of parakeets in many countries, including the U.S. They may have escaped from homes, been released deliberately, or accidentally been released during shipment. We already have a number of bird species that were imported (deliberately or accidentally), and which have taken over the habitat of native species. Some agricultural students fear that this could happen with quaker parrots because they seem to adapt and breed readily when they are released. We had parakeets (one at a time) when I was a child, and I love them. My parents had pictures of a parakeet perching on the sides of my glasses while I was reading. Some years later, my parents began to raise chickens (8,000 at a time), and my father made the comment that it was probably good that we no longer had parakeets because they are known carriers of coccidiosis. It could have been disastrous if we carried disease from pet birds in the house to the chickens. I was not aware until recently that quaker parrots are illegal or limited in some states, and I don't know how much of this is reality and how much may be exaggerated fear. Here are a fewsites that describe feral colonies in the U.S. http://www.brooklynparrots.com/2005/...-doing-in.html http://www.eparrots.biz/feral.html http://www.biology.uco.edu/PersonalP...ams_butler.pdf This article was developed by an author who has attempted to dispel some of those fears (which he considers unwarranted and unreasonable): http://monkparakeet.com/index1.htm Incidentally, I often think that my grandfather (who farmed from early 1900 until his death in 1953) was "ahead of his time." Other farmers used all sorts of techniques to get rid of birds that were "stealing their grain" from the fields. My grandfather planted extra grain "for the birds." He said birds were worth their weight in gold because of all the insects they ate. Likewise, he mounted a bat house on the side of my grandparents' house instead of taking steps to destroy them. MaryL |
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MaryL wrote:
There are feral colonies of parakeets in many countries, including the U.S. They may have escaped from homes, been released deliberately, or accidentally been released during shipment. We already have a number of bird species that were imported (deliberately or accidentally), and which have taken over the habitat of native species. So, you're saying that parrots and parakeets compete with native birds for the same ecological niches, and the parrots and parakeets are winning out? Do they also breed faster than native birds? There's quite a population of feral parrots in San Francisco - some of you might have seen the wonderful documentary, "The Wild Parrots of Telegraph Hill". I don't know what impact they have on native species in the city, though. The hawks and falcons seem happy about them being there! Some agricultural students fear that this could happen with quaker parrots because they seem to adapt and breed readily when they are released. What would the effects be on agriculture? Do they eat plants that the natives leave alone? Incidentally, I often think that my grandfather (who farmed from early 1900 until his death in 1953) was "ahead of his time." Other farmers used all sorts of techniques to get rid of birds that were "stealing their grain" from the fields. My grandfather planted extra grain "for the birds." He said birds were worth their weight in gold because of all the insects they ate. Likewise, he mounted a bat house on the side of my grandparents' house instead of taking steps to destroy them. Smart guy! I seem to remember you posting about this once before, or maybe someone else was doing the same thing. It's ingenious. Joyce -- Who ever thought up the word "Mammogram"? Every time I hear it, I think I'm supposed to put my breast in an envelope and send it to someone. -- Jan King |
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wrote in message ... MaryL wrote: There are feral colonies of parakeets in many countries, including the U.S. They may have escaped from homes, been released deliberately, or accidentally been released during shipment. We already have a number of bird species that were imported (deliberately or accidentally), and which have taken over the habitat of native species. So, you're saying that parrots and parakeets compete with native birds for the same ecological niches, and the parrots and parakeets are winning out? Do they also breed faster than native birds? No, I'm not saying that. I don't have enough knowledge to make that decision. I was quoting "experts" who make the claim and who are fearful of the potential ecological impact of large feral colonies. I am aware, of course, of other imports that have caused damage (starlings, some sparrows, etc.) There's quite a population of feral parrots in San Francisco - some of you might have seen the wonderful documentary, "The Wild Parrots of Telegraph Hill". I don't know what impact they have on native species in the city, though. The hawks and falcons seem happy about them being there! Some agricultural students fear that this could happen with quaker parrots because they seem to adapt and breed readily when they are released. What would the effects be on agriculture? Do they eat plants that the natives leave alone? Most of the reports I have read are concerned about (1) possible competition for--house finches, for example, are very aggressive and have been known to drive native species from certain areas; (2) possible spread of disease to native populations--I quoted my father from many years ago, for example, and he was not even thinking about possible feral populations. Incidentally, I often think that my grandfather (who farmed from early 1900 until his death in 1953) was "ahead of his time." Other farmers used all sorts of techniques to get rid of birds that were "stealing their grain" from the fields. My grandfather planted extra grain "for the birds." He said birds were worth their weight in gold because of all the insects they ate. Likewise, he mounted a bat house on the side of my grandparents' house instead of taking steps to destroy them. Smart guy! I seem to remember you posting about this once before, or maybe someone else was doing the same thing. It's ingenious. Yes, I did write about my grandfather on another occasion. Joyce -- |
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"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message . .. "jmcquown" wrote in message ... "MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message . .. "jmcquown" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... Pretty amazing! Fortunately this post is completely off-topic, and there are no cats in it. http://www.brighthub.com/pets/birds/articles/92107.aspx Joyce This is wonderful! Parrots can indeed be amazing (I miss Peaches! who is a lovebird, not a Quaker parrot, but they look remarkably similiar). One thing I don't understand is the article says "Quaker parrots are deemed "illegal Avians" in Colorado and 13 other states, a little known battle that has been waging between the states and the federal government." Why on earth would Quaker parrots be illegal? Jill They are considered to be a threat to native birds, and there are fears that they may become agricultural pests. There are some states where they are legal to own but illegal to sell or breed, and some states prohibit ownership of quaker parrots. MaryL That's nuts! Most people I know don't let their parrots fly around loose outside. They're expensive birds so that would be reckless indeed. I'm not saying they can't escape, lots of pet birds do. I got my first parakeet when I was 3 years old because someone wasn't paying attention and the bird got out. My brother caught him down by the creek in the backyard in Virginia. He was a blue pied parakeet and had a broken beak. I named him Robinson Crusoe. I seriously doubt small parrots like a Quaker would harm native birds or crops. Agricultural pests? What, native birds don't eat whatever they can find? Tell that to the crows in my back yard. LOL I'm pretty sure they're picking their way through the tomato fields a few miles from here. Jill ---loves cats and birds alike There are feral colonies of parakeets in many countries, including the U.S. They may have escaped from homes, been released deliberately, or accidentally been released during shipment. We already have a number of bird species that were imported (deliberately or accidentally), and which have taken over the habitat of native species. Some agricultural students fear that this could happen with quaker parrots because they seem to adapt and breed readily when they are released. We had parakeets (one at a time) when I was a child, and I love them. My parents had pictures of a parakeet perching on the sides of my glasses while I was reading. Some years later, my parents began to raise chickens (8,000 at a time), and my father made the comment that it was probably good that we no longer had parakeets because they are known carriers of coccidiosis. It could have been disastrous if we carried disease from pet birds in the house to the chickens. The medical concern is valid. I grew up with parakeets but we didn't raise chickens. Incidentally, I often think that my grandfather (who farmed from early 1900 until his death in 1953) was "ahead of his time." Other farmers used all sorts of techniques to get rid of birds that were "stealing their grain" from the fields. My grandfather planted extra grain "for the birds." He said birds were worth their weight in gold because of all the insects they ate. They certainly do eat a lot of destructive insects. Likewise, he mounted a bat house on the side of my grandparents' house instead of taking steps to destroy them. MaryL Ah, bats are wonderful! I should put up a bat house. When John and I were at the concert last October there were bats swooping all over. It was really cool. Jill |
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