Cats too fat.

On 08/28/2011 07:44 PM, Bill Graham wrote:
Barb wrote:
Good question. I only know I've read not to get cats to lose weight
too fast.

Barb

Yes. Or people either. Especially if you are diabetic. You have to keep
your blood sugar at some minimum level if you expect your heart to keep
beating Riding the narrow window between that level and not losing
weight is not easy....... With us you can exercise, which is a real
help. But with cats, you can't get them to do anything they don't want
to do.... Ever tried to take your cat jogging? :^)

When Princess (RB 16) was still with me, I had a treadmill. She used to
try to walk on it. MLB

On Aug 27, 10:22*pm, "Bill Graham" wrote:
I recently acquired a male cat from a friend who is going RV'ing for the
next couple of years, and needed a home for him. He weighs around 30 lbs,
which is over twice what my other 4 cats weigh. they all have an infinite
bowl of kibbles to graze on, and I also open cans for them whenever they
want it. Will the obese kitty gradually reduce to the weight of the other
four? Or, will I have to institute some special system to keep him from
eating too much and maintaining his weight? My other four cats weigh around
10 lbs each.....

Did your friend tell you what she fed Tiger? Did she leave some food
with you? and what does the vet suggest you feed Tiger who weighs as
much as a 3 year old child? if you dont feed him what he wants he
will just eat the other cat's food or even he might eat one of the
other cats. After you've had him for a while, how about letting him
roam around outside with your cats that are allowed out? He is
probably bored so he eats. How about a photo? How do the other 4
feel about him?

honeybunch wrote:
On Aug 27, 10:22 pm, "Bill Graham" wrote:
I recently acquired a male cat from a friend who is going RV'ing for
the next couple of years, and needed a home for him. He weighs
around 30 lbs, which is over twice what my other 4 cats weigh. they
all have an infinite bowl of kibbles to graze on, and I also open
cans for them whenever they want it. Will the obese kitty gradually
reduce to the weight of the other four? Or, will I have to institute
some special system to keep him from eating too much and maintaining
his weight? My other four cats weigh around 10 lbs each.....

Did your friend tell you what she fed Tiger? Did she leave some food
with you? and what does the vet suggest you feed Tiger who weighs as
much as a 3 year old child? if you dont feed him what he wants he
will just eat the other cat's food or even he might eat one of the
other cats. After you've had him for a while, how about letting him
roam around outside with your cats that are allowed out? He is
probably bored so he eats. How about a photo? How do the other 4
feel about him?

All good questions. Yes, they left some food. My other four cats are all
inside/outside cats, and have two cat doors they regularly use. Tiger can go
outside too, but he doesn't leave the property.... He just roams around the
outside decks and sleeps in the sun like my other cats do. They get along
with him pretty well, because he is a male, and three of them are females.
They hiss and spit at each other once in a while, but they treat the males
like they were the sheik of Araby. Tiger doesn't seem to eat very much, so I
think his weight will come down in time. The vet that my friend had is the
same one I use, so she should be familiar with Tiger's excessive weight. I
will call her after a bit and have her check him out. Right now, I want him
to acclimate to the new surroundings and not be traumatized by a vet visit.

This is called obesity in cats.Just bring some diet change in your daily diet plan of cat.It would be enough to bring a change in your cat's diet.The obesity would be no more and do not give those diet which contains ingredients which causes obesity.

"Bill Graham" wrote in message
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I recently acquired a male cat from a friend who is going RV'ing for the
next couple of years, and needed a home for him. He weighs around 30 lbs,
which is over twice what my other 4 cats weigh. they all have an infinite
bowl of kibbles to graze on, and I also open cans for them whenever they
want it. Will the obese kitty gradually reduce to the weight of the other
four? Or, will I have to institute some special system to keep him from
eating too much and maintaining his weight? My other four cats weigh around
10 lbs each.....

If the little porker is allowed outside to roam around he'll probably slowly
lose the excess flab. If he's an indoor kitty, you'll need to control his
portions for sure. :-)

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 19:22:38 -0700, "Bill Graham"
wrote:

I recently acquired a male cat from a friend who is going RV'ing for the
next couple of years, and needed a home for him. He weighs around 30 lbs,
which is over twice what my other 4 cats weigh. they all have an infinite
bowl of kibbles to graze on, and I also open cans for them whenever they
want it. Will the obese kitty gradually reduce to the weight of the other
four? Or, will I have to institute some special system to keep him from
eating too much and maintaining his weight? My other four cats weigh around
10 lbs each.....

Hard to say. I have four cats. I have two cats that I want to eat
more, and two that will eat everything there is and whine for more. No
free feeding is allowed because Marlo and Scooter will eat it all and
explode. I have to manage them very carefully and it does take effort.
Sometimes I'll lock the two overweight ones out of the feeding area
and just feed the other two something.

See how it goes. Maybe the new cat will decide that since food is
always available it doesn't have to eat all the time. But I doubt it.

Bill,

First, what kind of food are you feeding? I highly suggest feeding a
grain-free wet diet, preferable twice per day. Free feeding is NOT a
good idea, especially when you have several cats and can't monitor who
is getting what. Please read this article on feline nutrition:
http://www.catinfo.org/

I had a similar problem where our oldest cat gained weight even on
"diet" dry food. I switched him to wet and he slowly lost the weight
and has kept it off for about six years. Please see our weight-loss
website: http://community-2.webtv.net/getcathelp/tucker/

The key is to lose the weight SLOWLY and gradually. Also, I highly
recommend buying a digital postal scale so you can weigh him at home.
When you are talking about ounces, this scale is invaluable. There's a
link to one in the above article.

I agree with others in saying to first visit your vet and get him an
overall check up. However, your vet may try to sell you "diet" dry
food--sadly, many vets are ill educated in feline nutrition (which is
why I suggested the article above). I went through two vets before
finding one did not tell me that wet food was "bad" for cats (which is
bogus).

Email me if you have more questions,
Rene

On 8/30/2011 5:31 AM, dgk wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 19:22:38 -0700, "Bill
wrote:

I recently acquired a male cat from a friend who is going RV'ing for the
next couple of years, and needed a home for him. He weighs around 30 lbs,
which is over twice what my other 4 cats weigh. they all have an infinite
bowl of kibbles to graze on, and I also open cans for them whenever they
want it. Will the obese kitty gradually reduce to the weight of the other
four? Or, will I have to institute some special system to keep him from
eating too much and maintaining his weight? My other four cats weigh around
10 lbs each.....

Hard to say. I have four cats. I have two cats that I want to eat
more, and two that will eat everything there is and whine for more. No
free feeding is allowed because Marlo and Scooter will eat it all and
explode. I have to manage them very carefully and it does take effort.
Sometimes I'll lock the two overweight ones out of the feeding area
and just feed the other two something.

See how it goes. Maybe the new cat will decide that since food is
always available it doesn't have to eat all the time. But I doubt it.

check that it isn't a normal situation for this type of cat. i have a
normal looking tuxedo cat, but when i got him from the rescue i work at,
he was 23lbs. he's lost about 2lbs in the 8 years since i've gotten him,
and we don't allow free feeding.

http://s587.photobucket.com/albums/s...rent=jesse.jpg

suggestion: put the food in a room with a door. install something like
(there are multiple manufacturers of doors like this):

http://www.moorepet.com/SureFlap-Cat-Door-s/475.htm

in the door keyed so that only the thin cats can get in. put only a
limited amount of food outside the room.

regards,
charlie
cave creek, az

On Aug 29, 7:10*pm, "Bill Graham" wrote:
honeybunch wrote:
On Aug 27, 10:22 pm, "Bill Graham" wrote:
I recently acquired a male cat from a friend who is going RV'ing for
the next couple of years, and needed a home for him. He weighs
around 30 lbs, which is over twice what my other 4 cats weigh. they
all have an infinite bowl of kibbles to graze on, and I also open
cans for them whenever they want it. Will the obese kitty gradually
reduce to the weight of the other four? Or, will I have to institute
some special system to keep him from eating too much and maintaining
his weight? My other four cats weigh around 10 lbs each.....

Did your friend tell you what she fed Tiger? *Did she leave some food
with you? *and what does the vet suggest you feed Tiger who weighs as
much as a 3 year old child? *if you dont feed him what he wants he
will just eat the other cat's food or even he might eat one of the
other cats. *After you've had him for a while, how about letting him
roam around outside with your cats that are allowed out? *He is
probably bored so he eats. *How about a photo? *How do the other 4
feel about him?

All good questions. Yes, they left some food. My other four cats are all
inside/outside cats, and have two cat doors they regularly use. Tiger can go
outside too, but he doesn't leave the property.... He just roams around the
outside decks and sleeps in the sun like my other cats do. They get along
with him pretty well, because he is a male, and three of them are females..
They hiss and spit at each other once in a while, but they treat the males
like they were the sheik of Araby. Tiger doesn't seem to eat very much, so I
think his weight will come down in time. The vet that my friend had is the
same one I use, so she should be familiar with Tiger's excessive weight. I
will call her after a bit and have her check him out. Right now, I want him
to acclimate to the new surroundings and not be traumatized by a vet visit.

Kelly Greene wrote:
"Bill Graham" wrote in message
...
I recently acquired a male cat from a friend who is going RV'ing for
the next couple of years, and needed a home for him. He weighs
around 30 lbs, which is over twice what my other 4 cats weigh. they
all have an infinite bowl of kibbles to graze on, and I also open
cans for them whenever they want it. Will the obese kitty gradually
reduce to the weight of the other four? Or, will I have to institute
some special system to keep him from eating too much and maintaining
his weight? My other four cats weigh around 10 lbs each.....

If the little porker is allowed outside to roam around he'll probably
slowly lose the excess flab. If he's an indoor kitty, you'll need to
control his portions for sure. :-)

Well, now he is an outside cat, but he doesn't seem to have a great deal of
drive to run around outside. for sure, he doesn't go over the roof like a
couple of my other cats do. I think that in time, however, he will probably
become more active. It would be very hard to restrict his eating while he is
living here with my other 4 cats. they have been living with an infinite
supply of kibbles for a long time now.