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In the interest of fairness:
From: (Steve Crane) Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.health Subject: URGENT - food problem Date: 20 May 2003 17:37:55 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 36 I wonder why the page I got didn't have Steve Crane listed at all. Anyway, I did apologize in a previous post for the mistake. But it does seem Chris aka Gaubster2 goes to the mat to defend Hill's and does make one wonder if he is indeed affiliated with them. Nothing wrong with that. I just find it curious. http://www.health-and-medical.com/ve...dicine/veterin ary_medicine_msg57924/veterinary_medicine_msg57924.shtml ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm |
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In the interest of fairness:
From: (Steve Crane) Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.health Subject: URGENT - food problem Date: 20 May 2003 17:37:55 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 36 I wonder why the page I got didn't have Steve Crane listed at all. Anyway, I did apologize in a previous post for the mistake. But it does seem Chris aka Gaubster2 goes to the mat to defend Hill's and does make one wonder if he is indeed affiliated with them. Nothing wrong with that. I just find it curious. http://www.health-and-medical.com/ve...dicine/veterin ary_medicine_msg57924/veterinary_medicine_msg57924.shtml ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm |
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In the interest of fairness:
From: (Steve Crane) Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.health Subject: URGENT - food problem Date: 20 May 2003 17:37:55 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 36 I wonder why the page I got didn't have Steve Crane listed at all. Anyway, I did apologize in a previous post for the mistake. But it does seem Chris aka Gaubster2 goes to the mat to defend Hill's and does make one wonder if he is indeed affiliated with them. Nothing wrong with that. I just find it curious. http://www.health-and-medical.com/ve...dicine/veterin ary_medicine_msg57924/veterinary_medicine_msg57924.shtml ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm |
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Alison Perera wrote in message ...
In article , (Karen M.) wrote: Lauren wrote: snip It sure is like talking to a brick wall, isn't it? I have a very strong suspicion that Chris aka is another Hill's rep posting here. Check this out: [snip] That's quite interesting Lauren! Makes one wonder, does it not?? Kiss your kitties for me! K In the interest of fairness: From: (Steve Crane) Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.health Subject: URGENT - food problem Date: 20 May 2003 17:37:55 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.71.172.134 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1053477475 8896 127.0.0.1 (21 May 2003 00:37:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: NNTP-Posting-Date: 21 May 2003 00:37:55 GMT Tara wrote in message ... GAUBSTER2 wrote: It wasn't a good analogy. Sure it was. Using a position of authority and power to push a product in order to make money IS an appropriate analogy. The intentions might be good, but that is what it boils down to. I suppose the responsible veternarian prescribes products based on their efficacy. I realize you're just stating your personal opinion here, but I don't think you're being realistic. And how many vets have you worked for? Besides that one friend of yours, that is. Tara, I don't know what kind of experience you've had working for vets, maybe it's different in your part of the world. I've spent over 20 years in veterinary clinics all over the Northwest. Out of the 3,500 vets that practice in that part of the world there aren't but a handful that would fall into the category you describe. And, I know exactly which ones they are. A good example is one in a sizeable (for north Idaho anyway) Northern Idaho city. This particular practice sells whatever they can, to anyone they can, regardless of need. They push heartworm tests in an area where there has never been a non-transient case of heartworm in a dog yet. Efficacy of products is not important to this clinic, although they sure make it sound that way to clients. I know these clinics exist, but they are by far and away the extreme rarity in veterinary medicine. Over the 20 years I've been in and out of clinics from Fairbanks to Cheyenne there aren't a dozen clinics that would agree to sell a diet without proof in the way of clinical studies to back it up. What food does this Northern Idaho clinic sell? Not Hill's, because Hill's wouldn't agree to give the vet and the staff free food for their pets. Alison, Your post was kind of confusing, but in the following post G2 says he worked for PetSmart for years, that's why he "knows" so much. I didn't realize PetSmart *had* nutritional specialists... http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:...ng-cr1.aol.com |
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Alison Perera wrote in message ...
In article , (Karen M.) wrote: Lauren wrote: snip It sure is like talking to a brick wall, isn't it? I have a very strong suspicion that Chris aka is another Hill's rep posting here. Check this out: [snip] That's quite interesting Lauren! Makes one wonder, does it not?? Kiss your kitties for me! K In the interest of fairness: From: (Steve Crane) Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.health Subject: URGENT - food problem Date: 20 May 2003 17:37:55 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.71.172.134 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1053477475 8896 127.0.0.1 (21 May 2003 00:37:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: NNTP-Posting-Date: 21 May 2003 00:37:55 GMT Tara wrote in message ... GAUBSTER2 wrote: It wasn't a good analogy. Sure it was. Using a position of authority and power to push a product in order to make money IS an appropriate analogy. The intentions might be good, but that is what it boils down to. I suppose the responsible veternarian prescribes products based on their efficacy. I realize you're just stating your personal opinion here, but I don't think you're being realistic. And how many vets have you worked for? Besides that one friend of yours, that is. Tara, I don't know what kind of experience you've had working for vets, maybe it's different in your part of the world. I've spent over 20 years in veterinary clinics all over the Northwest. Out of the 3,500 vets that practice in that part of the world there aren't but a handful that would fall into the category you describe. And, I know exactly which ones they are. A good example is one in a sizeable (for north Idaho anyway) Northern Idaho city. This particular practice sells whatever they can, to anyone they can, regardless of need. They push heartworm tests in an area where there has never been a non-transient case of heartworm in a dog yet. Efficacy of products is not important to this clinic, although they sure make it sound that way to clients. I know these clinics exist, but they are by far and away the extreme rarity in veterinary medicine. Over the 20 years I've been in and out of clinics from Fairbanks to Cheyenne there aren't a dozen clinics that would agree to sell a diet without proof in the way of clinical studies to back it up. What food does this Northern Idaho clinic sell? Not Hill's, because Hill's wouldn't agree to give the vet and the staff free food for their pets. Alison, Your post was kind of confusing, but in the following post G2 says he worked for PetSmart for years, that's why he "knows" so much. I didn't realize PetSmart *had* nutritional specialists... http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:...ng-cr1.aol.com |
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Alison Perera wrote in message ...
In article , (Karen M.) wrote: Lauren wrote: snip It sure is like talking to a brick wall, isn't it? I have a very strong suspicion that Chris aka is another Hill's rep posting here. Check this out: [snip] That's quite interesting Lauren! Makes one wonder, does it not?? Kiss your kitties for me! K In the interest of fairness: From: (Steve Crane) Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.health Subject: URGENT - food problem Date: 20 May 2003 17:37:55 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.71.172.134 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1053477475 8896 127.0.0.1 (21 May 2003 00:37:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: NNTP-Posting-Date: 21 May 2003 00:37:55 GMT Tara wrote in message ... GAUBSTER2 wrote: It wasn't a good analogy. Sure it was. Using a position of authority and power to push a product in order to make money IS an appropriate analogy. The intentions might be good, but that is what it boils down to. I suppose the responsible veternarian prescribes products based on their efficacy. I realize you're just stating your personal opinion here, but I don't think you're being realistic. And how many vets have you worked for? Besides that one friend of yours, that is. Tara, I don't know what kind of experience you've had working for vets, maybe it's different in your part of the world. I've spent over 20 years in veterinary clinics all over the Northwest. Out of the 3,500 vets that practice in that part of the world there aren't but a handful that would fall into the category you describe. And, I know exactly which ones they are. A good example is one in a sizeable (for north Idaho anyway) Northern Idaho city. This particular practice sells whatever they can, to anyone they can, regardless of need. They push heartworm tests in an area where there has never been a non-transient case of heartworm in a dog yet. Efficacy of products is not important to this clinic, although they sure make it sound that way to clients. I know these clinics exist, but they are by far and away the extreme rarity in veterinary medicine. Over the 20 years I've been in and out of clinics from Fairbanks to Cheyenne there aren't a dozen clinics that would agree to sell a diet without proof in the way of clinical studies to back it up. What food does this Northern Idaho clinic sell? Not Hill's, because Hill's wouldn't agree to give the vet and the staff free food for their pets. Alison, Your post was kind of confusing, but in the following post G2 says he worked for PetSmart for years, that's why he "knows" so much. I didn't realize PetSmart *had* nutritional specialists... http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:...ng-cr1.aol.com |
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olitter (PawsForThought) wrote: In the interest of fairness: From: (Steve Crane) Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.health Subject: URGENT - food problem Date: 20 May 2003 17:37:55 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 36 I wonder why the page I got didn't have Steve Crane listed at all. Anyway, I did apologize in a previous post for the mistake. But it does seem Chris aka Gaubster2 goes to the mat to defend Hill's and does make one wonder if he is indeed affiliated with them. Nothing wrong with that. I just find it curious. http://www.health-and-medical.com/ve...dicine/veterin ary_medicine_msg57924/veterinary_medicine_msg57924.shtml I assume you "got" this page from a general Google search. Whoever those people are, they simply harvest Usenet posts. If you'll look there's no author attributed at all. Which is a dirty, rotten thing for that website's administrator to do. Next time you want to look up somebody's posting history I highly recommend http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search?hl=en -Alison in OH |
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olitter (PawsForThought) wrote: In the interest of fairness: From: (Steve Crane) Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.health Subject: URGENT - food problem Date: 20 May 2003 17:37:55 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 36 I wonder why the page I got didn't have Steve Crane listed at all. Anyway, I did apologize in a previous post for the mistake. But it does seem Chris aka Gaubster2 goes to the mat to defend Hill's and does make one wonder if he is indeed affiliated with them. Nothing wrong with that. I just find it curious. http://www.health-and-medical.com/ve...dicine/veterin ary_medicine_msg57924/veterinary_medicine_msg57924.shtml I assume you "got" this page from a general Google search. Whoever those people are, they simply harvest Usenet posts. If you'll look there's no author attributed at all. Which is a dirty, rotten thing for that website's administrator to do. Next time you want to look up somebody's posting history I highly recommend http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search?hl=en -Alison in OH |
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In article ,
olitter (PawsForThought) wrote: In the interest of fairness: From: (Steve Crane) Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.health Subject: URGENT - food problem Date: 20 May 2003 17:37:55 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 36 I wonder why the page I got didn't have Steve Crane listed at all. Anyway, I did apologize in a previous post for the mistake. But it does seem Chris aka Gaubster2 goes to the mat to defend Hill's and does make one wonder if he is indeed affiliated with them. Nothing wrong with that. I just find it curious. http://www.health-and-medical.com/ve...dicine/veterin ary_medicine_msg57924/veterinary_medicine_msg57924.shtml I assume you "got" this page from a general Google search. Whoever those people are, they simply harvest Usenet posts. If you'll look there's no author attributed at all. Which is a dirty, rotten thing for that website's administrator to do. Next time you want to look up somebody's posting history I highly recommend http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search?hl=en -Alison in OH |
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