American Idol guy & Cats

Well, I just killfile a lot of them including Laura. They aren't worth
listening to anyway. It makes me appreciate some of the posters like Candace
and others who are helpful. As for the topic at hand, I have to wonder what
the CFA thinks of Aiken's remarks?


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"Judy F" wrote in message
t...
Thanks! I think it would be better if people just posted their opinions
without attacking other people. Makes me think there are lots of agendas
here rather than just cats!!!!!

Well, I just killfile a lot of them including Laura. They aren't worth
listening to anyway. It makes me appreciate some of the posters like Candace
and others who are helpful. As for the topic at hand, I have to wonder what
the CFA thinks of Aiken's remarks?


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"Judy F" wrote in message
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Thanks! I think it would be better if people just posted their opinions
without attacking other people. Makes me think there are lots of agendas
here rather than just cats!!!!!

One of the Claymates returns to defend his/her tin god Clay Aiken. He said
those hurtful words about cats and now he needs to deal with it and stop
behind hiding his legions of fans and his lawyers. Geeze! You Claymates act
like you are best friends with him or soemthing. You say that I erroneously
assigned my own reason to the article and his words. I don't see how you can
possibly blow what he said out of context. Make all the excuses you want for
him but Aiken said those hurtful words about cats. I think those that excuse
his words and back him no matter what are guilty themselves. It may not be a
crime to say what he said but it also doesn't make it right either.

In point one it seems that in the eyes of Clay Aiken fans that if you say
one word against their idol that you are the enemy. I have seen how
fanatical you fans get when worshipping a person. Look at the Michael
Jackson case. He has been accused of a child molestation a crime he was
accused of before and yet his fans will stand behind him. They don't want to
believe that he might be guilty. If he turns out to be, then I am sure his
fans will make some excuse for what he says or does.

You'll have to learn that your Clay is not superhuman. He is not a god and
he certainly is no idol. I think you just don't like the fact that there are
people out there who don't agree with what he said. The funnu thing is you
Clay fans make up stories such as him hiding in kitchen pantry's, etc just
to excuse his referring to cats as evil. Just because Triumph and the SPCA
(please note this is the SPCA in his own state not U.S. wide) choose to back
him doesn't prove anything. For all we know the SPCA in his state has had
brushes with the law regarding how they keep the animals. It seems no matter
what is said you'll back Clay but you are not going to change my position
because I love cats and thus can think for myself. I don't have to follow
anyone like you obviously seem the need to. Clay is no god and he is
certainly no idol in my eyes.

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"EO" wrote in message
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"Would a person who love cats say that?" ---Wow. I guess I really do
have to break it down for you. No one said he LOVES cats.

Point #1: Not everyone has to love cats. Your world seems very black
and white, either you love them or you're the enemy. Goodness. Just
because he has a fear of cats doesn't mean he doesn't want you to have
your cat. Clay owns a dog, he is a dog person. That's not a crime.

Point #2: You erroneously assign your own reason to something he
clearly goes on to explain in the article. "There's nothing worse TO
HIM then a housecat" because he is SCARED of cats. Not once did he
say it's because he just plain "detests" or "hates" cats. Please point
to where it is that he says "I detest cats". The article does however
quote Clay saying that he is "afraid" of them.

If a friend got a new cat he didn't know about, Clay would just hide
in another room. One time there were 3 cats, he hid in the kitchen
pantry and people wondered where he was until they heard an "ahem"
coming from behind the door. It was quite comical actually.

Both Triumph and the SPCA are backing Clay. Because they can actually
read. You might want to try that...actually read what's before you
rather than putting words into people's mouths.

"Cat Protector" wrote in message
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Once again, a Claymate has to make up a lot of crap to defend their
idol. It
says he detests cats. In case you have no idea what the word means it is
the
same as hate. He called a cat "Satan" and says "there is nothing worse
than
a house cat." Would a person who loves cats say that? Hell no! I guess
you
Clay fans have proven my point that you'll support Aiken no matter what
he
says or does.

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"EO" wrote in message
...
The article doesn't say he hates cats. It says he is AFRAID of cats -
"I wasn't afraid of cats before. But now they scare me to death".
Context means everything. He has also explained in countless radio
and tv interviews that he is "afraid of cats because of the accident".
He must have loved his kitten so much to have had the event affect him
til this day. In the end though, the point is there's no rule where
everyone in the world must LOVE cats. Clay's a dog person. Big deal.
BTW, the SPCA (The Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals)
is standing by Clay against PETA as well. PETA is so dumb, they're now
turning their attention and going after David Letterman and Jack Hanna
over some Niambi animals. ha

"Cat Protector" wrote in message
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That article says he detests cats. That is the same as hating them.
I
guess
we got another Claymate on this board who believes his idol can do
no
wrong.
I guess calling cats "Satan" and saying "there is nothing worse than
a
house
cat" in your eyes means he loves cats right? BTW, nowhere in that
article
does it say that it was an accident regarding that kitten. Clay
needs
help
and you can tell your fellow Clay fans that in my opinion they are a
bit
cookoo themselves. Don't the Clay fans have a life? Apparently not
if
they
are camping out to see him.

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"EO" wrote in message
om...

If you actually read the rollingstone issue, it's pretty clear
that
the interviewer was recounting Clay's idiosyncrancies - rarely
swears,
many allerfies, is so afraid of water he can't drive across
bridges,
etc. Fear of cats was among the details. Clay never said he hated
cats, he said he was afraid of cats, haunted by them ala Satan
because
he accidently ran over his own kitten and was traumatized at
watching
it die.

Even PETA's own spokesperson "Triumph the Insult dog" stands by
Clay
AGAINST PETA. I especially like the part where Triumph calls PETA
"cuckoo". From his official website
http://www.triumphtheinsultcomicdog.com

[excerpt from site] That should be the end of the story. But hold
the
phone - we're dealing with PETA. Bong - cuckoo! As you see, I made
a
typically poopy quip in the ad: "Get Neutered - It Didn't Hurt
Clay
Aiken." It actually wasn't my first choice. I really wanted "Chop
'Em
Off - They Didn't Taste That Great Anyway." But PETA was jonesing
for
the Clay joke. Whatever. Just give me my pub and go back to your
spray
painting.
Turns out PETA had an ax to grind with Clay. They released the ad
and
a press release, quoting Clay talking trash about cats, like "Cats
are
Satan." Never mind that Clay keeds. They quoted Clay saying "I ran
over a kitten when I was 16." Never mind that they left out the
part
where Clay said it was an accident that haunts him to this day.
(click
here to read his quote) Well played, PETA. And I thought I was the
pub
whore.
So here I am -- caught in the middle of crappy tunes and looney
tunes... when all I wanted was to whore myself. Of course, I have
to
stand with Clay, even if they hadn't twisted his quotes. This is
about
a basic human and animal right that must be preserved... the right
to
poop, to joke, to keed. Look, I sing "Cats Are C***s" on the CD,
but I
keed. I don't hate cats. I've even banged a few in my day. Just
never
let a cat give you a hand job." [end of excerpt]

One of the Claymates returns to defend his/her tin god Clay Aiken. He said
those hurtful words about cats and now he needs to deal with it and stop
behind hiding his legions of fans and his lawyers. Geeze! You Claymates act
like you are best friends with him or soemthing. You say that I erroneously
assigned my own reason to the article and his words. I don't see how you can
possibly blow what he said out of context. Make all the excuses you want for
him but Aiken said those hurtful words about cats. I think those that excuse
his words and back him no matter what are guilty themselves. It may not be a
crime to say what he said but it also doesn't make it right either.

In point one it seems that in the eyes of Clay Aiken fans that if you say
one word against their idol that you are the enemy. I have seen how
fanatical you fans get when worshipping a person. Look at the Michael
Jackson case. He has been accused of a child molestation a crime he was
accused of before and yet his fans will stand behind him. They don't want to
believe that he might be guilty. If he turns out to be, then I am sure his
fans will make some excuse for what he says or does.

You'll have to learn that your Clay is not superhuman. He is not a god and
he certainly is no idol. I think you just don't like the fact that there are
people out there who don't agree with what he said. The funnu thing is you
Clay fans make up stories such as him hiding in kitchen pantry's, etc just
to excuse his referring to cats as evil. Just because Triumph and the SPCA
(please note this is the SPCA in his own state not U.S. wide) choose to back
him doesn't prove anything. For all we know the SPCA in his state has had
brushes with the law regarding how they keep the animals. It seems no matter
what is said you'll back Clay but you are not going to change my position
because I love cats and thus can think for myself. I don't have to follow
anyone like you obviously seem the need to. Clay is no god and he is
certainly no idol in my eyes.

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"EO" wrote in message
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"Would a person who love cats say that?" ---Wow. I guess I really do
have to break it down for you. No one said he LOVES cats.

Point #1: Not everyone has to love cats. Your world seems very black
and white, either you love them or you're the enemy. Goodness. Just
because he has a fear of cats doesn't mean he doesn't want you to have
your cat. Clay owns a dog, he is a dog person. That's not a crime.

Point #2: You erroneously assign your own reason to something he
clearly goes on to explain in the article. "There's nothing worse TO
HIM then a housecat" because he is SCARED of cats. Not once did he
say it's because he just plain "detests" or "hates" cats. Please point
to where it is that he says "I detest cats". The article does however
quote Clay saying that he is "afraid" of them.

If a friend got a new cat he didn't know about, Clay would just hide
in another room. One time there were 3 cats, he hid in the kitchen
pantry and people wondered where he was until they heard an "ahem"
coming from behind the door. It was quite comical actually.

Both Triumph and the SPCA are backing Clay. Because they can actually
read. You might want to try that...actually read what's before you
rather than putting words into people's mouths.

"Cat Protector" wrote in message
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Once again, a Claymate has to make up a lot of crap to defend their
idol. It
says he detests cats. In case you have no idea what the word means it is
the
same as hate. He called a cat "Satan" and says "there is nothing worse
than
a house cat." Would a person who loves cats say that? Hell no! I guess
you
Clay fans have proven my point that you'll support Aiken no matter what
he
says or does.

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"EO" wrote in message
...
The article doesn't say he hates cats. It says he is AFRAID of cats -
"I wasn't afraid of cats before. But now they scare me to death".
Context means everything. He has also explained in countless radio
and tv interviews that he is "afraid of cats because of the accident".
He must have loved his kitten so much to have had the event affect him
til this day. In the end though, the point is there's no rule where
everyone in the world must LOVE cats. Clay's a dog person. Big deal.
BTW, the SPCA (The Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals)
is standing by Clay against PETA as well. PETA is so dumb, they're now
turning their attention and going after David Letterman and Jack Hanna
over some Niambi animals. ha

"Cat Protector" wrote in message
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That article says he detests cats. That is the same as hating them.
I
guess
we got another Claymate on this board who believes his idol can do
no
wrong.
I guess calling cats "Satan" and saying "there is nothing worse than
a
house
cat" in your eyes means he loves cats right? BTW, nowhere in that
article
does it say that it was an accident regarding that kitten. Clay
needs
help
and you can tell your fellow Clay fans that in my opinion they are a
bit
cookoo themselves. Don't the Clay fans have a life? Apparently not
if
they
are camping out to see him.

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"EO" wrote in message
om...

If you actually read the rollingstone issue, it's pretty clear
that
the interviewer was recounting Clay's idiosyncrancies - rarely
swears,
many allerfies, is so afraid of water he can't drive across
bridges,
etc. Fear of cats was among the details. Clay never said he hated
cats, he said he was afraid of cats, haunted by them ala Satan
because
he accidently ran over his own kitten and was traumatized at
watching
it die.

Even PETA's own spokesperson "Triumph the Insult dog" stands by
Clay
AGAINST PETA. I especially like the part where Triumph calls PETA
"cuckoo". From his official website
http://www.triumphtheinsultcomicdog.com

[excerpt from site] That should be the end of the story. But hold
the
phone - we're dealing with PETA. Bong - cuckoo! As you see, I made
a
typically poopy quip in the ad: "Get Neutered - It Didn't Hurt
Clay
Aiken." It actually wasn't my first choice. I really wanted "Chop
'Em
Off - They Didn't Taste That Great Anyway." But PETA was jonesing
for
the Clay joke. Whatever. Just give me my pub and go back to your
spray
painting.
Turns out PETA had an ax to grind with Clay. They released the ad
and
a press release, quoting Clay talking trash about cats, like "Cats
are
Satan." Never mind that Clay keeds. They quoted Clay saying "I ran
over a kitten when I was 16." Never mind that they left out the
part
where Clay said it was an accident that haunts him to this day.
(click
here to read his quote) Well played, PETA. And I thought I was the
pub
whore.
So here I am -- caught in the middle of crappy tunes and looney
tunes... when all I wanted was to whore myself. Of course, I have
to
stand with Clay, even if they hadn't twisted his quotes. This is
about
a basic human and animal right that must be preserved... the right
to
poop, to joke, to keed. Look, I sing "Cats Are C***s" on the CD,
but I
keed. I don't hate cats. I've even banged a few in my day. Just
never
let a cat give you a hand job." [end of excerpt]

One of the Claymates returns to defend his/her tin god Clay Aiken. He said
those hurtful words about cats and now he needs to deal with it and stop
behind hiding his legions of fans and his lawyers. Geeze! You Claymates act
like you are best friends with him or soemthing. You say that I erroneously
assigned my own reason to the article and his words. I don't see how you can
possibly blow what he said out of context. Make all the excuses you want for
him but Aiken said those hurtful words about cats. I think those that excuse
his words and back him no matter what are guilty themselves. It may not be a
crime to say what he said but it also doesn't make it right either.

In point one it seems that in the eyes of Clay Aiken fans that if you say
one word against their idol that you are the enemy. I have seen how
fanatical you fans get when worshipping a person. Look at the Michael
Jackson case. He has been accused of a child molestation a crime he was
accused of before and yet his fans will stand behind him. They don't want to
believe that he might be guilty. If he turns out to be, then I am sure his
fans will make some excuse for what he says or does.

You'll have to learn that your Clay is not superhuman. He is not a god and
he certainly is no idol. I think you just don't like the fact that there are
people out there who don't agree with what he said. The funnu thing is you
Clay fans make up stories such as him hiding in kitchen pantry's, etc just
to excuse his referring to cats as evil. Just because Triumph and the SPCA
(please note this is the SPCA in his own state not U.S. wide) choose to back
him doesn't prove anything. For all we know the SPCA in his state has had
brushes with the law regarding how they keep the animals. It seems no matter
what is said you'll back Clay but you are not going to change my position
because I love cats and thus can think for myself. I don't have to follow
anyone like you obviously seem the need to. Clay is no god and he is
certainly no idol in my eyes.

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"EO" wrote in message
om...
"Would a person who love cats say that?" ---Wow. I guess I really do
have to break it down for you. No one said he LOVES cats.

Point #1: Not everyone has to love cats. Your world seems very black
and white, either you love them or you're the enemy. Goodness. Just
because he has a fear of cats doesn't mean he doesn't want you to have
your cat. Clay owns a dog, he is a dog person. That's not a crime.

Point #2: You erroneously assign your own reason to something he
clearly goes on to explain in the article. "There's nothing worse TO
HIM then a housecat" because he is SCARED of cats. Not once did he
say it's because he just plain "detests" or "hates" cats. Please point
to where it is that he says "I detest cats". The article does however
quote Clay saying that he is "afraid" of them.

If a friend got a new cat he didn't know about, Clay would just hide
in another room. One time there were 3 cats, he hid in the kitchen
pantry and people wondered where he was until they heard an "ahem"
coming from behind the door. It was quite comical actually.

Both Triumph and the SPCA are backing Clay. Because they can actually
read. You might want to try that...actually read what's before you
rather than putting words into people's mouths.

"Cat Protector" wrote in message
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Once again, a Claymate has to make up a lot of crap to defend their
idol. It
says he detests cats. In case you have no idea what the word means it is
the
same as hate. He called a cat "Satan" and says "there is nothing worse
than
a house cat." Would a person who loves cats say that? Hell no! I guess
you
Clay fans have proven my point that you'll support Aiken no matter what
he
says or does.

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"EO" wrote in message
...
The article doesn't say he hates cats. It says he is AFRAID of cats -
"I wasn't afraid of cats before. But now they scare me to death".
Context means everything. He has also explained in countless radio
and tv interviews that he is "afraid of cats because of the accident".
He must have loved his kitten so much to have had the event affect him
til this day. In the end though, the point is there's no rule where
everyone in the world must LOVE cats. Clay's a dog person. Big deal.
BTW, the SPCA (The Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals)
is standing by Clay against PETA as well. PETA is so dumb, they're now
turning their attention and going after David Letterman and Jack Hanna
over some Niambi animals. ha

"Cat Protector" wrote in message
news:YpPvb.10851$Gj2.3215@okepread01...
That article says he detests cats. That is the same as hating them.
I
guess
we got another Claymate on this board who believes his idol can do
no
wrong.
I guess calling cats "Satan" and saying "there is nothing worse than
a
house
cat" in your eyes means he loves cats right? BTW, nowhere in that
article
does it say that it was an accident regarding that kitten. Clay
needs
help
and you can tell your fellow Clay fans that in my opinion they are a
bit
cookoo themselves. Don't the Clay fans have a life? Apparently not
if
they
are camping out to see him.

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"EO" wrote in message
om...

If you actually read the rollingstone issue, it's pretty clear
that
the interviewer was recounting Clay's idiosyncrancies - rarely
swears,
many allerfies, is so afraid of water he can't drive across
bridges,
etc. Fear of cats was among the details. Clay never said he hated
cats, he said he was afraid of cats, haunted by them ala Satan
because
he accidently ran over his own kitten and was traumatized at
watching
it die.

Even PETA's own spokesperson "Triumph the Insult dog" stands by
Clay
AGAINST PETA. I especially like the part where Triumph calls PETA
"cuckoo". From his official website
http://www.triumphtheinsultcomicdog.com

[excerpt from site] That should be the end of the story. But hold
the
phone - we're dealing with PETA. Bong - cuckoo! As you see, I made
a
typically poopy quip in the ad: "Get Neutered - It Didn't Hurt
Clay
Aiken." It actually wasn't my first choice. I really wanted "Chop
'Em
Off - They Didn't Taste That Great Anyway." But PETA was jonesing
for
the Clay joke. Whatever. Just give me my pub and go back to your
spray
painting.
Turns out PETA had an ax to grind with Clay. They released the ad
and
a press release, quoting Clay talking trash about cats, like "Cats
are
Satan." Never mind that Clay keeds. They quoted Clay saying "I ran
over a kitten when I was 16." Never mind that they left out the
part
where Clay said it was an accident that haunts him to this day.
(click
here to read his quote) Well played, PETA. And I thought I was the
pub
whore.
So here I am -- caught in the middle of crappy tunes and looney
tunes... when all I wanted was to whore myself. Of course, I have
to
stand with Clay, even if they hadn't twisted his quotes. This is
about
a basic human and animal right that must be preserved... the right
to
poop, to joke, to keed. Look, I sing "Cats Are C***s" on the CD,
but I
keed. I don't hate cats. I've even banged a few in my day. Just
never
let a cat give you a hand job." [end of excerpt]

and how is that different than what I posted?
Judy F

"Laura R." wrote in message
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circa Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:17:25 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Judy F ) said,
Thanks! I think it would be better if people just posted their opinions
without attacking other people. Makes me think there are lots of agendas
here rather than just cats!!!!!

Oh, for pete's sake. Some of us would just like to have rational
discussions. Others just want to whine and feed their persecution
comnplexes. I prefer to be one of the former.

Laura
--
I am Dyslexia of Borg,
Your ass will be laminated.

and how is that different than what I posted?
Judy F

"Laura R." wrote in message
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circa Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:17:25 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Judy F ) said,
Thanks! I think it would be better if people just posted their opinions
without attacking other people. Makes me think there are lots of agendas
here rather than just cats!!!!!

Oh, for pete's sake. Some of us would just like to have rational
discussions. Others just want to whine and feed their persecution
comnplexes. I prefer to be one of the former.

Laura
--
I am Dyslexia of Borg,
Your ass will be laminated.

and how is that different than what I posted?
Judy F

"Laura R." wrote in message
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circa Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:17:25 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Judy F ) said,
Thanks! I think it would be better if people just posted their opinions
without attacking other people. Makes me think there are lots of agendas
here rather than just cats!!!!!

Oh, for pete's sake. Some of us would just like to have rational
discussions. Others just want to whine and feed their persecution
comnplexes. I prefer to be one of the former.

Laura
--
I am Dyslexia of Borg,
Your ass will be laminated.

I'd just killfile her Judy. Laura just likes to have a flame war. I think
she is just a lonely person and has nothing better to do.

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"Judy F" wrote in message
t...
and how is that different than what I posted?
Judy F

"Laura R." wrote in message
.net...
circa Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:17:25 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Judy F ) said,
Thanks! I think it would be better if people just posted their
opinions
without attacking other people. Makes me think there are lots of
agendas
here rather than just cats!!!!!

Oh, for pete's sake. Some of us would just like to have rational
discussions. Others just want to whine and feed their persecution
comnplexes. I prefer to be one of the former.

Laura
--
I am Dyslexia of Borg,
Your ass will be laminated.

I'd just killfile her Judy. Laura just likes to have a flame war. I think
she is just a lonely person and has nothing better to do.

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"Judy F" wrote in message
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and how is that different than what I posted?
Judy F

"Laura R." wrote in message
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circa Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:17:25 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Judy F ) said,
Thanks! I think it would be better if people just posted their
opinions
without attacking other people. Makes me think there are lots of
agendas
here rather than just cats!!!!!

Oh, for pete's sake. Some of us would just like to have rational
discussions. Others just want to whine and feed their persecution
comnplexes. I prefer to be one of the former.

Laura
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