Starving Kitty...spoke with vet...says it's the END OF THE ROAD

Starving Kitty - Quartizone wears off..Vet says it's THE END OF THE ROAD
Sad Kitty...she was eating great at the beginning of the week, then
yesterday she stopped - she got her Quartizone shot last Saturday,so I
guess it wore off. She's sitting there with a "zonked" look, she seems to
be in pain, knocked out...

I had a shot scheduled for a week from now..but moved it up to tomorrow -
Saturday. I spoke with the vet - Her ultrasound biopsy missed the tumor,
all they found were dead cells..but the tumor is there as per the sonogram.
We don't know if it's cancer or not..

But vet says that surgery on liver will be too traumatic for Kitty - she's
13...So basically, she gets quartizone...I don't want her starving at home..

I called back and asked about euthanasia..They said some advance notice
would be good, to get things ready.

So now I'm deciding. If I get home tonight and she hasn't eaten her food,
and won't eat dinner...Then I will need to end it..I don't want her slowly
starving alone at home in my apartment while I'm at work...

Feel sad, but glad I got the diagnostics done, to see what was wrong...

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I'm really so sorry to hear this.

"David via CatKB.com" wrote in message
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Starving Kitty - Quartizone wears off..Vet says it's THE END OF THE ROAD
Sad Kitty...she was eating great at the beginning of the week, then
yesterday she stopped - she got her Quartizone shot last Saturday,so I
guess it wore off. She's sitting there with a "zonked" look, she seems to
be in pain, knocked out...

I had a shot scheduled for a week from now..but moved it up to tomorrow -
Saturday. I spoke with the vet - Her ultrasound biopsy missed the tumor,
all they found were dead cells..but the tumor is there as per the
sonogram.
We don't know if it's cancer or not..

But vet says that surgery on liver will be too traumatic for Kitty - she's
13...So basically, she gets quartizone...I don't want her starving at
home..

I called back and asked about euthanasia..They said some advance notice
would be good, to get things ready.

So now I'm deciding. If I get home tonight and she hasn't eaten her food,
and won't eat dinner...Then I will need to end it..I don't want her slowly
starving alone at home in my apartment while I'm at work...

Feel sad, but glad I got the diagnostics done, to see what was wrong...

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"David via CatKB.com" wrote in message
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Starving Kitty - Quartizone wears off..Vet says it's THE END OF THE ROAD
Sad Kitty...she was eating great at the beginning of the week, then
yesterday she stopped - she got her Quartizone shot last Saturday,so I
guess it wore off. She's sitting there with a "zonked" look, she seems to
be in pain, knocked out...

I had a shot scheduled for a week from now..but moved it up to tomorrow -
Saturday. I spoke with the vet - Her ultrasound biopsy missed the tumor,
all they found were dead cells..but the tumor is there as per the
sonogram.
We don't know if it's cancer or not..

But vet says that surgery on liver will be too traumatic for Kitty - she's
13...So basically, she gets quartizone...I don't want her starving at
home..

I called back and asked about euthanasia..They said some advance notice
would be good, to get things ready.

So now I'm deciding. If I get home tonight and she hasn't eaten her food,
and won't eat dinner...Then I will need to end it..I don't want her slowly
starving alone at home in my apartment while I'm at work...

Feel sad, but glad I got the diagnostics done, to see what was wrong...


You *don't* know what's going on! You don't even know if the tumor is
malignant. There seems to be no evidence of metastasis and the tumor is
still very small and very amenable to resectioning.

I know you hold this vet in high esteem, but personally, I think he's an
incompetent idiot. He even botched up the biopsy which could have been
*easily* avoided with ultrasound guidance.

David, you've been spinning your wheels with this bozo vet for weeks to
months and now you're considering euthanasia based on inconclusive and
erroneous information. The feline liver has a *fantastic* ability to
*regenerate* - especially with such a small resectioning.

You *owe* it to your cat to get a second opinion. Your cat *DOES NOT HAVE
TO DIE*. I can't make it any clearer.

Phil

David via CatKB.com wrote:
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But vet says that surgery on liver will be too traumatic for Kitty -
she's
13...So basically, she gets quartizone...I don't want her starving at
home..

I called back and asked about euthanasia..They said some advance
notice
would be good, to get things ready.

So now I'm deciding. If I get home tonight and she hasn't eaten her
food,
and won't eat dinner...Then I will need to end it..I don't want her
slowly
starving alone at home in my apartment while I'm at work...

Feel sad, but glad I got the diagnostics done, to see what was
wrong...

Peace.

Whether the tumor is malignant or not, surgery will cost $1000K plus, there
is no guarantee that tumors will not re-occur...I can't pour $$$$ into this
cat, it's not like I have the money for experiments. It cost $900 already
just to do the diagnostics...

Chemo will mean months of going for treatment...week after week after
week...

Plus, Kitty doesn't know what's going on, cats can purr, lick, play, and
snuggle...but they can't HOPE. That's what gets people through
surgery...but a cat will just suffer.

Maybe I'll just get her the quartizone shot and see how she does, get a
second opinion..(and a new biopsy).

David

P.S. please stop calling my vet incompetent. Are you a vet? Where is your
degree?

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I'd strongly urge you to get a second opinion.

First, I've had several cats with liver surgery and they do indeed tolerate
it well. One lived until she was almost 21 after half of her liver (which
was necrotic, and never biopsied by the vet who I now consider royally
incompetent) was removed.

Second, cats may not hope, but they do tolerate chemo well. And you don't
know if the cat even needs chemo.

I'd continue force feeding and quickly get an opinion from a specialist.

Good luck.

"David via CatKB.com" wrote in message
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Starving Kitty - Quartizone wears off..Vet says it's THE END OF THE ROAD
Sad Kitty...she was eating great at the beginning of the week, then
yesterday she stopped - she got her Quartizone shot last Saturday,so I
guess it wore off. She's sitting there with a "zonked" look, she seems to
be in pain, knocked out...

I had a shot scheduled for a week from now..but moved it up to tomorrow -
Saturday. I spoke with the vet - Her ultrasound biopsy missed the tumor,
all they found were dead cells..but the tumor is there as per the
sonogram.
We don't know if it's cancer or not..

But vet says that surgery on liver will be too traumatic for Kitty - she's
13...So basically, she gets quartizone...I don't want her starving at
home..

I called back and asked about euthanasia..They said some advance notice
would be good, to get things ready.

So now I'm deciding. If I get home tonight and she hasn't eaten her food,
and won't eat dinner...Then I will need to end it..I don't want her slowly
starving alone at home in my apartment while I'm at work...

Feel sad, but glad I got the diagnostics done, to see what was wrong...

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"David via CatKB.com" wrote in message
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Whether the tumor is malignant or not, surgery will cost $1000K plus,
there
is no guarantee that tumors will not re-occur...





I can't pour $$$$ into this
cat, it's not like I have the money for experiments. It cost $900 already
just to do the diagnostics...


You should have just said you can't/won't spend the money. That's the
*only* explanation you've given that makes sense - even though I don't
agree. If your vet is such a great guy and you have such a wonderful
vet-client relationship - he should have no problems with accepting partial
payments -- although I wouldn't want him to preform the surgery... since he
couldn't even get the biopsy right.



Chemo will mean months of going for treatment...week after week after
week...

Chemo??? You don't even know if the damn tumor is malignant! *That's* one
of the reasons why I think your vet is incompetent or just doesn't give a
****.




Plus, Kitty doesn't know what's going on, cats can purr, lick, play, and
snuggle...but they can't HOPE. That's what gets people through
surgery...but a cat will just suffer.

Cats handle surgery much *better* than humans *precisely* because they
*don't* attach the emotional bondage to surgery as humans do. They simply
go to sleep and wake up cured - All they understand is that they feel
better. They don't know why and don't care why. A few days to a few weeks
of recovery is certainly worth a few to many years of good quality life.



Maybe I'll just get her the quartizone shot and see how she does, get a
second opinion..(and a new biopsy).


That's the smartest thing you can do and the best thing you can do for your
cat.


David

P.S. please stop calling my vet incompetent. Are you a vet? Where is your
degree?


I've worked with enough *good* vets to know a good vet when I see one -
Yours is a long way from one.

"David via CatKB.com" wrote in message
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Starving Kitty - Quartizone wears off..Vet says it's THE END OF THE ROAD
Sad Kitty...she was eating great at the beginning of the week, then
yesterday she stopped - she got her Quartizone shot last Saturday,so I
guess it wore off. She's sitting there with a "zonked" look, she seems to
be in pain, knocked out...
[...]

So now I'm deciding. If I get home tonight and she hasn't eaten her food,
and won't eat dinner...Then I will need to end it..I don't want her slowly
starving alone at home in my apartment while I'm at work...

Feel sad, but glad I got the diagnostics done, to see what was wrong...


I'm sorry, David. I know you have really tried to help her, and I know
you will know when to give her the final kindness. It is very hard, though.

I am sorry to hear she isn't doing well. No matter what, it's a terrible
decision to have to make.
Carol

"David via CatKB.com" wrote in message
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Starving Kitty - Quartizone wears off..Vet says it's THE END OF THE ROAD
Sad Kitty...she was eating great at the beginning of the week, then
yesterday she stopped - she got her Quartizone shot last Saturday,so I
guess it wore off. She's sitting there with a "zonked" look, she seems to
be in pain, knocked out...

I had a shot scheduled for a week from now..but moved it up to tomorrow -
Saturday. I spoke with the vet - Her ultrasound biopsy missed the tumor,
all they found were dead cells..but the tumor is there as per the
sonogram.
We don't know if it's cancer or not..

But vet says that surgery on liver will be too traumatic for Kitty - she's
13...So basically, she gets quartizone...I don't want her starving at
home..

I called back and asked about euthanasia..They said some advance notice
would be good, to get things ready.

So now I'm deciding. If I get home tonight and she hasn't eaten her food,
and won't eat dinner...Then I will need to end it..I don't want her slowly
starving alone at home in my apartment while I'm at work...

Feel sad, but glad I got the diagnostics done, to see what was wrong...

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"David via CatKB.com" wrote in message
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Maybe I'll just get her the quartizone shot and see how she does, get a
second opinion..(and a new biopsy).

Man, if the vet actually missed the tumor, I think I would want to
go to another and see if he/she can do better. Now that you have
explained it better, I wonder why the vet would say it was "the
end of the line." As Phil said the tumor might not be malignant.
You already sank $900 into this, go a bit further.