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On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 17:04:26 -0400, Orchid
wrote: On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 19:38:43 GMT, "[ medic ]" wrote: I have a 4 year old male cat named Maus. He's a fairly large (in build, not weight) cat, but he's always had a kind of wobbly pooch on his belly. It's not a tumor or anything, just lose skin according to the vet. Is there any way to get rid of it or make it smaller? On a side note, I used to have a number of other cats and for some reason, most of them had "wobbles" as well. *grin* I was going to post, but I see Gee beat me to it. As an additional note, not all cats have primordial pouches -- many do, but the gene for it doesn't express in some. My personal guess is that the closer a cat is to feral ancestry (where the pouch is a very useful thing to have) the most likely they are to have them. The exception to that is Bengals and Savannahs, where the infusion of wild genes is via an ALC or a Serval and where the pouch is a desired trait (to increase the wild look). Both my Bengal boys have full primordial pouches with extra skin runnning from under their forelegs back to their hind. You can see it very clearly when they're stretched out, but they aren't fat at all. Orchid See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage Want a Purebred Cat? Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid My Siamese (RB16 yr) had this when she first adopted me. It disappeared after a few years . She became indoor-only -- could that be the reason it disappeared? MLB |
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From: "Karen"
It's pretty normal. Not much you can do. Karen Sounds like the feral pouch I've heard described as loose skin so when the cat gorges on food, his stomach expands. I've also heard it's for helping them stretch when they're running. My Mickey is a very muscular cat and eats a raw diet and he has one of these pouches. Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm |
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On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 16:14:18 -0600, m. L. Briggs
wrote: My Siamese (RB16 yr) had this when she first adopted me. It disappeared after a few years . She became indoor-only -- could that be the reason it disappeared? MLB Mmm. I don't think so -- my boys are indoor-only (okay, they go out on leashes, but I don't think this counts) and they very much have them. Now, they might go away, but they've had them since they were tiny kittens so I think that's unlikely. I've never heard of the PP going away -- do you remember what was happening around the time she lost it? Orchid See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage Want a Purebred Cat? Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid |
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On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 16:14:18 -0600, m. L. Briggs
wrote: My Siamese (RB16 yr) had this when she first adopted me. It disappeared after a few years . She became indoor-only -- could that be the reason it disappeared? MLB Mmm. I don't think so -- my boys are indoor-only (okay, they go out on leashes, but I don't think this counts) and they very much have them. Now, they might go away, but they've had them since they were tiny kittens so I think that's unlikely. I've never heard of the PP going away -- do you remember what was happening around the time she lost it? Orchid See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage Want a Purebred Cat? Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid |
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wobble belly is one of the cutest things about my cat. it makes me laugh when
she runs and her belly sways side to side. ESPECIALLY cuz she is a tiny cat, weighing in at about 7lbs, but still...the jiggly pouch...hilarity at its finest! she knows im typing about her, pam "Enjoy every second of your life...it may end at any time and you may come back as some loser with bad taste." -my friend JoeyJojo ***notice spam blocker*** |
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wobble belly is one of the cutest things about my cat. it makes me laugh when
she runs and her belly sways side to side. ESPECIALLY cuz she is a tiny cat, weighing in at about 7lbs, but still...the jiggly pouch...hilarity at its finest! she knows im typing about her, pam "Enjoy every second of your life...it may end at any time and you may come back as some loser with bad taste." -my friend JoeyJojo ***notice spam blocker*** |
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Thanks for all the info, I really appreciated it. As someone else suggested,
is it more common in cats with ferals in their blood lines? Maus's mom was a feral when we adopted her (she was pregnant then). Also, do you have any suggestions as to which canned food to feed? I have tried different kinds but Maus refuses to eat them. He likes his dry food and he likes nipping on certain human foods, but he doesn't eat any of the things people generally think cats would like (tuna, for example, or canned cat food). "Gee" wrote in message ... "[ medic ]" wrote in message nk.net... I have a 4 year old male cat named Maus. He's a fairly large (in build, not weight) cat, but he's always had a kind of wobbly pooch on his belly. It's not a tumor or anything, just lose skin according to the vet. Is there any way to get rid of it or make it smaller? On a side note, I used to have a number of other cats and for some reason, most of them had "wobbles" as well. Orchid has just answered this question in Alt.cats so am copying his/her reply he "It's called a primordial pouch, or sometimes, a 'spay sway'. Primordial pouches exist to give the cats extra protection in that area (cat fights involve a lot of savage kicking with the hind legs at about that area) and to allow a longer leg extension when jumping. A primordial pouch is just a flap of empty extra skin between the hind leg and the torso. 'Spay sways' come from the weight that altered cats put on because their metabolisms slow down. Add that slowdown to the American tendancy to overfeed our pets, and you get a primordial pouch that is filled with fat that shouldn't be there, aka a 'spay sway'. Felis lybica (the African Wildcat) is actually quite different from the big cats, predation-wise. Big cats are desgined to gorge and fast -- they make one big kill maybe once or twice a week. Little cats, like F. Lybica, are designed to kill many small things throughout the day, eating every day at least, more often twice or three times. This is why domestic cats are susceptible to Hepatidic Lipidosis when they do not eat for two or more days. Their bodies are deisgned for several small meals a day, not one huge one once a week. In zoos, big cats are fasted once a week for health reasons -- small cats *never* are. I would recommend putting him on canned food for urinary tract health, but rest assured that, if the skin is emtpy, it's a primordial pouch and supposed to be there. Orchid See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage Want a Purebred Cat? Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid " |
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Thanks for all the info, I really appreciated it. As someone else suggested,
is it more common in cats with ferals in their blood lines? Maus's mom was a feral when we adopted her (she was pregnant then). Also, do you have any suggestions as to which canned food to feed? I have tried different kinds but Maus refuses to eat them. He likes his dry food and he likes nipping on certain human foods, but he doesn't eat any of the things people generally think cats would like (tuna, for example, or canned cat food). "Gee" wrote in message ... "[ medic ]" wrote in message nk.net... I have a 4 year old male cat named Maus. He's a fairly large (in build, not weight) cat, but he's always had a kind of wobbly pooch on his belly. It's not a tumor or anything, just lose skin according to the vet. Is there any way to get rid of it or make it smaller? On a side note, I used to have a number of other cats and for some reason, most of them had "wobbles" as well. Orchid has just answered this question in Alt.cats so am copying his/her reply he "It's called a primordial pouch, or sometimes, a 'spay sway'. Primordial pouches exist to give the cats extra protection in that area (cat fights involve a lot of savage kicking with the hind legs at about that area) and to allow a longer leg extension when jumping. A primordial pouch is just a flap of empty extra skin between the hind leg and the torso. 'Spay sways' come from the weight that altered cats put on because their metabolisms slow down. Add that slowdown to the American tendancy to overfeed our pets, and you get a primordial pouch that is filled with fat that shouldn't be there, aka a 'spay sway'. Felis lybica (the African Wildcat) is actually quite different from the big cats, predation-wise. Big cats are desgined to gorge and fast -- they make one big kill maybe once or twice a week. Little cats, like F. Lybica, are designed to kill many small things throughout the day, eating every day at least, more often twice or three times. This is why domestic cats are susceptible to Hepatidic Lipidosis when they do not eat for two or more days. Their bodies are deisgned for several small meals a day, not one huge one once a week. In zoos, big cats are fasted once a week for health reasons -- small cats *never* are. I would recommend putting him on canned food for urinary tract health, but rest assured that, if the skin is emtpy, it's a primordial pouch and supposed to be there. Orchid See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage Want a Purebred Cat? Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid " |
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Also, do you have any suggestions as to which canned food to feed? I have
tried different kinds but Maus refuses to eat them. He likes his dry food and he likes nipping on certain human foods, but he doesn't eat any of the things people generally think cats would like (tuna, for example, or canned cat food). My husband told me that switching them from dry to canned isn't good for their digestive system. Once they are on dry food it's best to keep them on dry food. There are dry foods I think that are out there for Urinary tract stuff, I would call a vets office for advice though before persuing. Just to be on the safe side. |
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