Icarus back at the vet

Cat Protector wrote:
Thanks. He tried the Science Diet CD which was not my first choice but the
vet sells it. I have him on the normal every day canned food but for the dry
I'm trying Nutro which has a formula that supposedly helps lower the PH
level. With Icarus being at the vet he's been refusing to eat so they are
probably having to force feed him. He just isn't happy being there. Icarus
should be home in a couple of days but I wouldn't be surprised if they keep
him through the weekend. The last time he was there it was for 5 days.

Ack! I will say that when Mingy first blocked, he was
consuming Nutro. Yeah, I know what the package says, and I
believed it. It does turn out that there are various urinary
formulas one can try, even if Hills is the one that usually is
recommended first.

You have a real problem, like I do when Mingy is sick: a cat
that obviously is very stressed out, which only compounds the
problem. :-(

Icarus and Nohl

--
Jean B.

Have you tried "urine therapy" (153,000 web pages) on ICARUS. Consult
a urine therapist first because i can claim it has reversed my genetic
illness as my meds have lowered.

Erach


On Feb 23, 7:37*am, "Jean B." wrote:
Cat Protector wrote:
Thanks. He tried the Science Diet CD which was not my first choice but the
vet sells it. I have him on the normal every day canned food but for the dry
I'm trying Nutro which has a formula that supposedly helps lower the PH
level. With Icarus being at the vet he's been refusing to eat so they are
probably having to force feed him. He just isn't happy being there. Icarus
should be home in a couple of days but I wouldn't be surprised if they keep
him through the weekend. The last time he was there it was for 5 days.

Ack! *I will say that when Mingy first blocked, he was
consuming Nutro. *Yeah, I know what the package says, and I
believed it. *It does turn out that there are various urinary
formulas one can try, even if Hills is the one that usually is
recommended first.

You have a real problem, like I do when Mingy is sick: *a cat
that obviously is very stressed out, which only compounds the
problem. *:-(

Icarus and Nohl

--
Jean B.

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I disagree completely. It is a myth that dry food is good for their teeth,
promoted by the cat food companies that want to sell dry food. As someone
else pointed out here recently, veterinary schools do not spend enough time
discussing cat nutrition. So, the vets buy into the song and dance from the
cat food company representatives. Cats' jaws do not rotate. They chomp down.
Most food is swallowed whole. Do you think lions and tigers eat cornflakes
for breakfast?

From what I'm reading here and from the OP's cat's history, it's clear
that he NEEDS an all-wet diet. Giving some canned with dry isn't going
to cut it. I have experience with vets who are, sadly, inexperienced
in feline nutrition and, suprise, recommended what was on their shelf.

To debunk the canned/bad teeth debate, here is an excellent article
backed with scientific evidence:
http://www.littlebigcat.com/index.ph... cleantheteeth

The OP also needs to read this article:
http://www.littlebigcat.com/index.ph... cleantheteeth

Here is an excellent book, the premise of which is NOT feeding your
cat dry food:
http://www.amazon.com/Your-Cat-Simpl...3967273&sr=8-1

I urge the OP to read these articles and get a copy of the book ASAP
and share them with OP's current vet. If his vet is still against a
wet diet, get another opinion and find a vet who will work with you
and your cat.

For those that are interested, Icarus is now back from the vet and doing
much better. He's going to have to be on a special diet and his water and
moisture consumption increased. He's also on medication and is being closely
watched to ensure he doesn't get another blockage. He was so happy to be
home and gave the vet quite a run for their money especially since they said
it was hard to get close to him without him hissing and spitting. According
to the vet he was like a tiger and wasn't going to take any crap from the
vet even though they were trying to help.

Icarus was so glad to finally be home and had a special treat and went to
sleep. Although Isis enjoyed having me all to herself she still welcomed him
home and now everything seems pretty normal.

Thanks.


"Matthew" wrote in message
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Glad he is home and doing better

"Cat Protector" wrote in message
...
For those that are interested, Icarus is now back from the vet and doing
much better. He's going to have to be on a special diet and his water and
moisture consumption increased. He's also on medication and is being
closely watched to ensure he doesn't get another blockage. He was so
happy to be home and gave the vet quite a run for their money especially
since they said it was hard to get close to him without him hissing and
spitting. According to the vet he was like a tiger and wasn't going to
take any crap from the vet even though they were trying to help.

Icarus was so glad to finally be home and had a special treat and went to
sleep. Although Isis enjoyed having me all to herself she still welcomed
him home and now everything seems pretty normal.

On Feb 28, 12:20*pm, "Cat Protector" wrote:
For those that are interested, Icarus is now back from the vet and doing
much better. He's going to have to be on a special diet and his water and
moisture consumption increased. He's also on medication and is being closely
watched to ensure he doesn't get another blockage. He was so happy to be
home and gave the vet quite a run for their money especially since they said
it was hard to get close to him without him hissing and spitting. According
to the vet he was like a tiger and wasn't going to take any crap from the
vet even though they were trying to help.

Icarus was so glad to finally be home and had a special treat and went to
sleep. Although Isis enjoyed having me all to herself she still welcomed him
home and now everything seems pretty normal.

Glad he's back. Another thing to consider...

When my cat had her blockages a few years ago, after going off the
prescription diet, she continued eating a high-quality canned food.
She was fine on that diet for several weeks, but while she was at her
cat sitter's, she ran out of her usual food, so the sitter (with my
permission) gave her another type of high-quality food that she
normally gives her own cats.

She ended right back at the vet's. Why? Because the new food had
fish as a main ingredient, and according to the vet, my cat was
probably very sensitive to the magnesium in fish and that sensitivity
manifested itself as high pH urine and crystals again.

So perhaps you should check the ingredients of your food, too. If it
has fish in it, be doubly careful, as Icarus may also be sensitive,
and that would help explain this recurrence!

Thanks. He's pretty happy to be back. He's had fish (tuna) in his diet
before and had no problems. According to my vet he needs constant moisture.
He's tried the high quality food with no fish in it and still had this
happen. My vet says that I need to stick to the Science Diet S/D or else he
says this could very well happen again. As much as I've butted heads with my
vet on the diet (because most vets sell Hills) I guess I'll try it his way
for a while. I'm also going to cook Icarus's food from time to time as well.


"Rona Y." wrote in message
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On Feb 28, 12:20 pm, "Cat Protector" wrote:
For those that are interested, Icarus is now back from the vet and doing
much better. He's going to have to be on a special diet and his water and
moisture consumption increased. He's also on medication and is being
closely
watched to ensure he doesn't get another blockage. He was so happy to be
home and gave the vet quite a run for their money especially since they
said
it was hard to get close to him without him hissing and spitting.
According
to the vet he was like a tiger and wasn't going to take any crap from the
vet even though they were trying to help.

Icarus was so glad to finally be home and had a special treat and went to
sleep. Although Isis enjoyed having me all to herself she still welcomed
him
home and now everything seems pretty normal.

Glad he's back. Another thing to consider...

When my cat had her blockages a few years ago, after going off the
prescription diet, she continued eating a high-quality canned food.
She was fine on that diet for several weeks, but while she was at her
cat sitter's, she ran out of her usual food, so the sitter (with my
permission) gave her another type of high-quality food that she
normally gives her own cats.

She ended right back at the vet's. Why? Because the new food had
fish as a main ingredient, and according to the vet, my cat was
probably very sensitive to the magnesium in fish and that sensitivity
manifested itself as high pH urine and crystals again.

So perhaps you should check the ingredients of your food, too. If it
has fish in it, be doubly careful, as Icarus may also be sensitive,
and that would help explain this recurrence!

My kitty Max just went through the surgery for this. It is not pretty.
My veterinarian had prescribed Hills C/D and he still continued to
have problems. Because of the very good advice on this board, I
switched my cats to canned food. They no longer get any hard food.

I think vets are thinking about all of this from a very scientific
point of view. The cat food industry has probably spent millions of
dollars in research as well. Certainly, some dry foods have made some
progress over all these years.

In the past I had not even considered feeding my cats anything but a
high grade dry food. So many vets recommend dry food as well. The
thing that really convinced me though... I hope this helps... Before
Max had to go have the surgery done, when he had come from the vets on
an occassion, he was peeing a lot in the litter box on the day he came
home. The very next day I noticed a lot less urine in the litter box
as he was back on the hard food at that time. He developed problems
again within a week or two, and then had to go back for the surgery.

Long story short, read those good articles that some of folks sent you
on this thread. Dry food dehydrates our cats. It makes sense... What
do you think would happen if we humans ate food of a similar
consistency? We would dehydrate, too... we would have to drink an
awful lot of water to make up for the lack of it in our food.

The transition to get them over to soft food is easier than one might
think - there are several ways to do it pretty easily. I won't go into
that here.

Thanks so much, I hope you get to see this. I don't mean to offend. I
am just saying that sometimes it is hard to seperate all the truth
from the lies, so to speak.

Thanks,
Melissa

My kitty Max just went through the surgery for this. It is not pretty.
My veterinarian had prescribed Hills C/D and he still continued to
have problems. Because of the very good advice on this board, I
switched my cats to canned food. They no longer get any hard food.

I think vets are thinking about all of this from a very scientific
point of view. The cat food industry has probably spent millions of
dollars in research as well. Certainly, some dry foods have made some
progress over all these years.

In the past I had not even considered feeding my cats anything but a
high grade dry food. So many vets recommend dry food as well. The
thing that really convinced me though... I hope this helps... Before
Max had to go have the surgery done, when he had come from the vets on
an occassion, he was peeing a lot in the litter box on the day he came
home. The very next day I noticed a lot less urine in the litter box
as he was back on the hard food at that time. He developed problems
again within a week or two, and then had to go back for the surgery.

Long story short, read those good articles that some of folks sent you
on this thread. Dry food dehydrates our cats. It makes sense... What
do you think would happen if we humans ate food of a similar
consistency? We would dehydrate, too... we would have to drink an
awful lot of water to make up for the lack of it in our food.

The transition to get them over to soft food is easier than one might
think - there are several ways to do it pretty easily. I won't go into
that here.

Thanks so much, I hope you get to see this. I don't mean to offend. I
am just saying that sometimes it is hard to seperate all the truth
from the lies, so to speak.

Thanks,
Melissa

Long story short, read those good articles that some of folks sent you
on this thread. Dry food dehydrates our cats. It makes sense... What
do you think would happen if we humans ate food of a similar
consistency? We would dehydrate, too... we would have to drink an
awful lot of water to make up for the lack of it in our food.

The transition to get them over to soft food is easier than one might
think - there are several ways to do it pretty easily. I won't go into
that here.

Thanks so much, I hope you get to see this. I don't mean to offend. I
am just saying that sometimes it is hard to seperate all the truth
from the lies, so to speak.

Thank you for posting this Melissa. I agree completely with everything
you've written. I also don't put much stock in the prescription food.
I've trusted vets nutrition "advice" before and had horrible results.
I hope CP will read the articles and book I posted above and NOT feed
any more dry, prescription or otherwise.