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OT Calif. City Bans Smoking in Public Places
On 2006-03-20, Fat Freddy penned:
"Those who smoke out of doors are hurting only themselves, and so far, that's still their right." Then why do not heroin, cocaine, or meth addicts have that same right? Tobacco users should be subject to the same regulations and controls as users of other deadly addictive drugs. I would take the same question and come to an opposite conclusion. -- monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca |
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OT Calif. City Bans Smoking in Public Places
On 2006-03-20, CatNipped penned:
Researchers have found that it doesn't matter how much you smoke (except that it increases your chances), it only takes one time for the chemicals in smoke or second-hand smoke to mutate a gene that causes lung cancer. http://www.med.nyu.edu/communications/news/pr_09.html That being the case, even a whiff of smoke could be deadly. If that's true, we've all already rolled the dice. We just won't know what numbers we got until later in life. I can't imagine a ban on all smoking being even remotely enforcable. I mean, *no one* smokes pot anymore, right? -- monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca |
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OT Calif. City Bans Smoking in Public Places
On 2006-03-20, William Hamblen penned:
An employer can hire just about whomever he pleases. If he wants only nonsmokers he has the power to do so. Laws prevent unfair discrimination on the basis of race or sex and some other things, but smoking isn't one of them. According to my husband, who recently took management classes, it's also legal to decree that no men may wear beards. I assume that this would be legal unless it were attempted on a person who had to wear a beard for religious reasons. -- monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca |
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OT Calif. City Bans Smoking in Public Places
Fat Freddy wrote: "Those who smoke out of doors are hurting only themselves, and so far, that's still their right." Then why do not heroin, cocaine, or meth addicts have that same right? Perhaps because their "drug of choice" impairs judgement? Aside from the issue of "second-hand" smoke, tobbacco doesn't cause the user to put the lives of others at risk! (On the other hand, "driving under the influence.....") |
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OT Calif. City Bans Smoking in Public Places
---MIKE--- wrote: The only reason smoking is not illegal in the US is because of a very strong tobacco lobby. At the Bretton Woods ski area, smoking is not allowed inside the lodge. At the Whales Tale Water Park (in the summer) smoking is only allowed in a designated area that is far removed from the water attractions and not allowed in any buildings. I don't think you can blame it on the "tobbacco lobby" - it has a great deal more to do with how individual people regard smoking. (And there is no such thing as a tobbacco lobby in Europe, where smoking in public is still perfectly legal, almost everywhere.) Much as I dislike it, personally, I don't think it should be ENTIRELY outlawed (we tried that with alcohol in the 1920's, remember - with what effect?). Regulation, by all means, so that people who dislike it are not forced to breath second-hand smoke, but if you "outlaw" something that a large number of people regard as their right, you only give organized crime another means to make a profit. |
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OT Calif. City Bans Smoking in Public Places
On 2006-03-20, EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) penned:
William Hamblen wrote: An employer can hire just about whomever he pleases. If he wants only nonsmokers he has the power to do so. Laws prevent unfair discrimination on the basis of race or sex and some other things, but smoking isn't one of them. However, invading an employee's personal life IS! (Although with our current president it becomes less so.) An employer has a right to impose a "no smoking" rule on his premises, and perhaps to hire only non-smokers. However, he has no right to "police" their homes to insure they comply outside of working hours! What about drug tests? (Which I also don't approve of, but many companies do it.) -- monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca |
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OT Calif. City Bans Smoking in Public Places
wrote in message oups.com... I wish I could remember the name of the corporation--it was on the news a couple years ago and I remember the story distinctly because I was pretty horrified. Employees had to have their blood tested for nicotine, and were given a three-strikes-and-you're-out ultimatum. Of course there was all the propoganda about wanting employees to be healthier and it was "for their own good." They were given all kinds of help to stop. But still, it creeped me out. My FIL, who was at Pearl Harbor, talks about how the Red Cross would ship cigarettes to the GI's. That's mind-boggling, too. :-) If you've ever seen early (black and white) Television programs from the fifties, Cigarettes were often touted as being healthy for you. They cleared your throat, helped you de-stress after a long day, etc. I used to find it funny, but am now horrified how people were propagandized into smoking. Back in WWII, testing was just started on the effects of smoking. It was about that time that marijuana was made illegal, and LSD was thought to be a safe pastime. Do you know that cocaine was only made illegal in the 30s, if I recall correctly. It was still used for medical purposes in the mid-70s. I was given some when I had a bunch of broken facial bones put back into place. There's a wholeeeeee story about that. Pam S. remembering |
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