OT Calif. City Bans Smoking in Public Places

"Lesley" wrote in message
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For our friends in all the other countries -- what is the attitude
toward smoking there? Do many people still smoke? Is it banned in
restaurants, public buildings, hotels and such?
Thanks for the info.--I was just curious.

Hi

Here in the UK it is currently legal to smoke pretty much anywhere but
a ban on smoking in pubs, clubs and restaurants etc etc will come into
effect in 2007 unless there is a legal challenge mounted by someone
(one hotel chain in Scotland is doing so- Scotland got its ban a few
weeks ago). People will still be allowed to smoke outside for the
moment. A lot of pubs over the last few years have had designated no
smoking areas and one chain (Witherspoons I think) have already banned
smoking inside their pubs although you can smoke in the beer gardens I
gather (I don't much care for their pubs so I am unlikely to find out)


Many a restaurant is already no-smoking, as are cinemas, shopping centres,
libraries, shops and all sorts of places. For one, I'll be seriously glad
when the ban on smoking in pubs comes into place as I haven't been in a pub
for a long time as cigarette smoke makes me *ill*

Cheers, helen s

"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message
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I don't think you can blame it on the "tobbacco lobby" - it has a great
deal more to do with how individual people regard smoking. (And there is
no such thing as a tobbacco lobby in Europe, where smoking in public is
still perfectly legal, almost everywhere.)


Don't kid yourself on there being no 'tobacco lobby' in Europe. There is a
very strong one - it's just that as time passes, the anti-smoking lobby gets
louder

Cheers, helen s

"Monique Y. Mudama" wrote in message
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On 2006-03-20, penned:

Another aspect that I find peculiar are the employers who forbid
employees to smoke, period. Even away from work. I mean, what's next?
Forbidding employees to eat Krispy Kremes? That's not healthy either,
no?

I'm not familiar with any such companies, but I do know that most
people who smoke stink. Literally. Yes, it gets in their clothes and
on their breath, but a prolonged smoker's body actually stinks of it.
Yechh. That could be a presentation issue for some jobs.

I've yet to meet someone who stank of Krispy Kreme.


Or indeed, caught lung cancer from passive eating or passive obesity,
whereas passive smoking...

Cheers, helen s

On 2006-03-21, wafflycat wrote:

Many a restaurant is already no-smoking, as are cinemas, shopping centres,
libraries, shops and all sorts of places. For one, I'll be seriously glad

Motion picture theaters have been non-smoking over here for many years.
The reason is fire prevention rather than second-hand smoke.

--
The night is just the shadow of the Earth.

"wafflycat" wrote in message
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"Lesley" wrote in message
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For our friends in all the other countries -- what is the attitude
toward smoking there? Do many people still smoke? Is it banned in
restaurants, public buildings, hotels and such?
Thanks for the info.--I was just curious.

Hi

Here in the UK it is currently legal to smoke pretty much anywhere but
a ban on smoking in pubs, clubs and restaurants etc etc will come into
effect in 2007 unless there is a legal challenge mounted by someone
(one hotel chain in Scotland is doing so- Scotland got its ban a few
weeks ago). People will still be allowed to smoke outside for the
moment. A lot of pubs over the last few years have had designated no
smoking areas and one chain (Witherspoons I think) have already banned
smoking inside their pubs although you can smoke in the beer gardens I
gather (I don't much care for their pubs so I am unlikely to find out)


Many a restaurant is already no-smoking, as are cinemas, shopping centres,
libraries, shops and all sorts of places. For one, I'll be seriously glad
when the ban on smoking in pubs comes into place as I haven't been in a
pub for a long time as cigarette smoke makes me *ill*

Cheers, helen s

I know how you feel. There's a club here in Houston that I *LOVE* - great
atmosphere, they play great dance music (from the 50s to now), there's pool
tables and dart boards, and a really laid-back clientele (a bit older people
so there is never any bar fights or nastiness). My son even held his
birthday party there two years ago. Unfortunately I can't stay there longer
than an hour or two - by that time my lungs and throat are burning miserably
and will continue to do so for days afterwards. And I'm an ex-smoker -
think how much worse it must be for someone who has never smoked. Here in
Houston they've banned smoking in all businesses *EXCEPT* bars.

--

Hugs,

CatNipped

See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/

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wrote:

Back on topic, I watched a movie, I believe it was a Stephen King
vignette, called "Quitters." This thread is eerily reminding me of that
movie! Ever seen it?

Isn't that one section of the movie Cat's Eye? The King story is called
"Quitter's Inc". Two other stories, whose names I can't remember, but
that are also by King, are the bases of the other two sections of Cat's
Eye. What ties them all together (rather thinly) is a striped tabby named
General (which also brings this thread totally on topic ). I've always
loved the third piece of the movie, with baby Drew Barrymore and her cat
General, who protects her from a little troll who tries to steal her
breath, and of course, her parents blame it on the cat.

Joyce

I didn't know that was Drew Barrymore!
The part that keeps coming to mind is when he's in traffic, and
crouches in the floor of the car to sneak a puff or two. Of course
"they" know, and abduct his wife and torture her with electric shock.
Then the other guy sucessfully quits, but gets fat in the process. So
as an incentive not to cheat on his diet, they start chopping off his
wife's fingers. . Maybe the government should implement this program.
It would no doubt have a very high success rate. sarcasm off
I hated the part where the cat gets shocked!

Sherry

Matthew AKA NMR ( NO MORE RETAIL ) wrote:
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in
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CatNipped wrote:

"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in
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Fat Freddy wrote:


"Those who smoke out of doors are hurting only themselves, and so
far, that's still their right."

Then why do not heroin, cocaine, or meth addicts have that same
right?

Perhaps because their "drug of choice" impairs judgement? Aside
from the issue of "second-hand" smoke, tobbacco doesn't cause the
user to put the lives of others at risk! (On the other hand,
"driving under the influence.....")


The drugs could be made legal but driving under their influence kept
illegal - like alcohol. Also, to stretch a point, drivers who are
distracted by fishing out and lighting up a cigarette could (and do)
cause accidents.

Not nearly so many as those do drivers distracted by their cell-phone
conversations!

or eating Mcdonald's
trying to put on their makeup
or turned around and yelling at their kids

All at the same time! I bet it's happened.
--
Adrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera)
Cats leave pawprints on your heart.
http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk

wrote:
wrote:
CatNipped wrote:

Also, to stretch a point, drivers who are distracted by fishing
out and lighting up a cigarette could (and do) cause accidents.

Ditto for CD players - I had an accident about 4 years ago because I
was futzing around with a CD and went off the road and hit a phone
pole! (I wasn't hurt, but my car was totalled.) Then there are
coffee drinkers, people talking on cell phones, and so on. (I'm
guilty of talking on a cell phone while driving, I have to confess.)

Joyce

Oh, yeah. CD players, cell phone yakking, and mothers who try to
discipline small children in the back seat while driving down the
road! But the one that stands out, that I'll never forget -- I
actually saw a woman reading a paperback book while she was driving
down the street. That's just stupid...it made me wonder what exactly
would be on the ticket that she'd get if a cop saw her. "Driving
while stupid"?
Sherry

There was a case reported here in the UK recently, a woman was caught
putting on her makeup, with a mirror in one hand and her makeup in the
other, neither hand was touching the steering wheel, this was at 30mph.
--
Adrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera)
Cats leave pawprints on your heart.
http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk

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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:

And FYI, LSD didn't even
exist until well after WW2. (It came along just about the
same time as the Beattles, IIRC - remember "Lucy in the Sky
with Dianonds"?)

I got curious about this, so I Googled it, and discovered that LSD was
actually first formulated in a lab in 1938. However, the scientist who
did this (Albert Hofmann) didn't do anything more with it until 5
years later, when he went back to work on it again. It was in 1943
that he
first experienced the effects of the drug after accidentally ingesting
some of it. That made him curious, so he then deliberately ingested
some, and had, as he put it, "the most incredible bicycle ride home."



http://www.erowid.org/culture/charac...n_albert.shtml

Albert Hofmann died a few months ago.

It didn't become popularized until the 1960s, but both the military
and
the CIA performed experiements with the drug before that time. For an
interesting book about this, look he

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...980720-9732442

Joyce


--
Adrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera)
Cats leave pawprints on your heart.
http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk

There was a case reported here in the UK recently, a woman was caught
putting on her makeup, with a mirror in one hand and her makeup in the
other, neither hand was touching the steering wheel, this was at 30mph.

See

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/4785686.stm

"Pwllheli Magistrates Court heard on Wednesday how Donna Marie Maddock, 22,
from Mold, was travelling at 32mph in a 40mph zone earlier this year.

She was using an eyeliner with one hand and a compact in the other.

Maddock was fined £200 after admitting careless driving. The court heard she
was banned last week for drink-driving."

The ban is for 20 months. Pity she wasn't banned for a lot longer!

Cheers, helen s