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why do cats get on your chest while you sleep ?
On Monday, July 11, 2011 2:41:56 PM UTC-6, Lesley wrote:
On Jul 11, 8:45*am, "Smokie Darling (Annie)" wrote: ((((hugs)))) *I know how that is (then again, I think everyone knows how that is). I just keep thinking "she had a chance"- it was bad enough with Fugazi and she was dying- wasn't suffering Kylie said I could have taken her home for one last night- but would be soon so all I was really doing was allowing her to exit before she did- she would have died whatever I did but painfully if I had stayed my hand That's the hard one. Wondering if you may have had a little more time. You are right though. It's much less painful on the mind, knowing that you saved them from at least some pain. Dunzi the vet reckoned a 25 -30% chance she'd have made it to the emergency clinic and I am still thinking "30% that's 3 in 10" why didn't I plead with that vet to give her a little more time to stabilise when she went to sleep at the last moment she seemed to perk up a little was the the drip/antibiotic etc kicking in? Maybe she just needed to rest and would have sailed through it all and right now she'd be here..it wasn't about money I can afford it the vet said £600 at least and that these days is sod all (I am not saying I won the lottery or something but I do have a few bob set aside) You know, someone near here had dumped a teensy black kitten a couple of years ago. I had gone outside, and heard this tiny little baby kitten crying, and crying, and crying. I found him under my house (I tempted him out with some tuna). I named him Endymion. He was beautiful and I loved him. He was maybe 10 weeks old. One morning I noticed he was slower coming to breakfast. By afternoon he was having to drag his hind legs. I took him to the vet, and she did all sorts of tests.. Could find nothing wrong. No injury, no bacteria or virus. She thought it might be non-bacterial encephalitis, but wouldn't have been contagious to the other cats. He would have to be taken to the litter box, and "helped" to potty. He might get better or he might not. She claimed the odds were very much against him. I talked with hubby, and we decided that he needed to be sent on his way. I went down there, I held him close (and cried my eyes out). The vet came in, gave him his shot, and on her way out, she said... "We could have saved him, he would have been fine. You just needed to give him more time." That one preys on my mind, even now. I'd only known him for a week (but he would come bounding out whenever I would call Endy, Endy, Endy). Who knew that someone could get so attached so quickly? I still cry (like now), when I think of him. He was such a sweet little guy. Dave says he was here so he is a lot easier for him in some ways- he thought she was gone at home and all that was left was her body But I still think ..what if? I could say don't do that, but then I do that all the time (particularly as noted above). I do have the "advantage" of having kept a couple of my babies around too long (Nicodemus - RB May 2003 and Barnabus), knowing in hind sight, that I did them a disservice, but my heart wasn't ready. |
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On Jul 12, 3:30*pm, "Smokie Darling (Annie)"
wrote: .. She claimed the odds were very much against him. *I talked with hubby, and we decided that he needed to be sent on his way. *I went down there, I held him close (and cried my eyes out). *The vet came in, gave him his shot, and on her way out, she said... *"We could have saved him, he would have been fine. *You just needed to give him more time." That was unbelievably cruel- she was the one who claimed the odds were against him and then to say that when it was too late- cruel beyond belief Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs |
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On Jul 12, 8:30*am, "Smokie Darling (Annie)"
wrote: On Monday, July 11, 2011 2:41:56 PM UTC-6, Lesley wrote: On Jul 11, 8:45*am, "Smokie Darling (Annie)" wrote: ((((hugs)))) *I know how that is (then again, I think everyone knows how that is). I just keep thinking "she had a chance"- *it was bad enough with Fugazi and she was dying- wasn't suffering Kylie said I could have taken her home for one last night- but would be soon so all I was really doing was allowing her to exit before she did- she would have died whatever I did but painfully if I had stayed my hand That's the hard one. *Wondering if you may have had a little more time. *You are right though. *It's much less painful on the mind, knowing that you saved them from at least some pain. Dunzi the vet reckoned a 25 -30% chance she'd have made it to the emergency clinic and I am still thinking "30% that's 3 in 10" *why didn't I plead with that vet to give her a little more time to stabilise when she went to sleep at the last moment she seemed to perk up a little was the the drip/antibiotic etc kicking in? *Maybe she just needed to rest and would have sailed through it all and right now she'd be here..it wasn't about money I can afford it the vet said £600 *at least and that these days is sod all (I am not saying I won the lottery or something but I do have a few bob set aside) You know, someone near here had dumped a teensy black kitten a couple of years ago. *I had gone outside, and heard this tiny little baby kitten crying, and crying, and crying. *I found him under my house (I tempted him out with some tuna). *I named him Endymion. * He was beautiful and I loved him. *He was maybe 10 weeks old. *One morning I noticed he was slower coming to breakfast. *By afternoon he was having to drag his hind legs. *I took him to the vet, and she did all sorts of tests. *Could find nothing wrong. *No injury, no bacteria or virus.. *She thought it might be non-bacterial encephalitis, but wouldn't have been contagious to the other cats. *He would have to be taken to the litter box, and "helped" to potty. *He might get better or he might not. She claimed the odds were very much against him. *I talked with hubby, and we decided that he needed to be sent on his way. *I went down there, I held him close (and cried my eyes out). *The vet came in, gave him his shot, and on her way out, she said... *"We could have saved him, he would have been fine. *You just needed to give him more time." That one preys on my mind, even now. *I'd only known him for a week (but he would come bounding out whenever I would call Endy, Endy, Endy). *Who knew that someone could get so attached so quickly? *I still cry (like now), when I think of him. *He was such a sweet little guy. Dave says he was here so he is a lot easier for him in some ways- he thought she was gone at home and all that was left was her body But I still think ..what if? I could say don't do that, but then I do that all the time (particularly as noted above). *I do have the "advantage" of having kept a couple of my babies around too long (Nicodemus - RB May 2003 and Barnabus), knowing in hind sight, that I did them a disservice, but my heart wasn't ready. One advantage of getting older is that you don't remember every last detail of every last unhappy happening of your life that went before, as some of your memory cells in brain go to sleep for good. Regret about what you ladies remember such as this is like "Monday-morning quartbacking" (ask the DH what that is if you dunno) which is fun remembering but not your type. I don't do that anymo the cat regrets, not the quarterbacking post- games. Bottom line: you did the best you could do *as it appeared at the time* for the cats you loved and what was best for their quality of life *as it was explained to you* by pros. What is best for them is not always what is best for *you* as we are not cats and have much longer memories than they do. Part of this sadness is your personality. I am a person who lives thinks and plans pretty much in the *present* tense. If you have a less than glorious and pleasant history I doubt if dwelling on anything in it much is likely, but that's up close and personal. |
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On Jul 12, 8:42*am, Lesley Madigan wrote:
On Jul 12, 3:30*pm, "Smokie Darling (Annie)" wrote: . She claimed the odds were very much against him. *I talked with hubby, and we decided that he needed to be sent on his way. *I went down there, I held him close (and cried my eyes out). *The vet came in, gave him his shot, and on her way out, she said... *"We could have saved him, he would have been fine. *You just needed to give him more time." That was unbelievably cruel- she was the one who claimed the odds were against him and then to say that when it was too late- cruel beyond belief Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs Yes, it was cruel and hoomin-to-hoomin cruel. If it had happened to me, unprintable epithets would have been wafted on the ears of the vet, I would spread the word to every one of my friends, and the local media, in small chance they were hard up for local news on that day (some things like this frequently appear - surprise - in the BigCity tv stations and rags in MileHigh) - and not just simmer over it quietly and internally. Least of actions: changing vets after word-of-mouth canvassing recommendations among friends. |
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Lesley Madigan wrote:
On Jul 12, 3:30 pm, "Smokie Darling wrote: . She claimed the odds were very much against him. I talked with hubby, and we decided that he needed to be sent on his way. I went down there, I held him close (and cried my eyes out). The vet came in, gave him his shot, and on her way out, she said... "We could have saved him, he would have been fine. You just needed to give him more time." That was unbelievably cruel- she was the one who claimed the odds were against him and then to say that when it was too late- cruel beyond belief I agree with Lesley. That was unconscionable. Deborah |
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"Phoenix" wrote in message
... Lesley Madigan wrote: On Jul 12, 3:30 pm, "Smokie Darling wrote: . She claimed the odds were very much against him. I talked with hubby, and we decided that he needed to be sent on his way. I went down there, I held him close (and cried my eyes out). The vet came in, gave him his shot, and on her way out, she said... "We could have saved him, he would have been fine. You just needed to give him more time." That was unbelievably cruel- she was the one who claimed the odds were against him and then to say that when it was too late- cruel beyond belief I agree with Lesley. That was unconscionable. Deborah I agree too! Joy |
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On 7/12/2011 9:30 AM, Smokie Darling (Annie) wrote:
On Monday, July 11, 2011 2:41:56 PM UTC-6, Lesley wrote: On Jul 11, 8:45 am, "Smokie Darling wrote: ((((hugs)))) I know how that is (then again, I think everyone knows how that is). I just keep thinking "she had a chance"- it was bad enough with Fugazi and she was dying- wasn't suffering Kylie said I could have taken her home for one last night- but would be soon so all I was really doing was allowing her to exit before she did- she would have died whatever I did but painfully if I had stayed my hand That's the hard one. Wondering if you may have had a little more time. You are right though. It's much less painful on the mind, knowing that you saved them from at least some pain. Dunzi the vet reckoned a 25 -30% chance she'd have made it to the emergency clinic and I am still thinking "30% that's 3 in 10" why didn't I plead with that vet to give her a little more time to stabilise when she went to sleep at the last moment she seemed to perk up a little was the the drip/antibiotic etc kicking in? Maybe she just needed to rest and would have sailed through it all and right now she'd be here..it wasn't about money I can afford it the vet said £600 at least and that these days is sod all (I am not saying I won the lottery or something but I do have a few bob set aside) You know, someone near here had dumped a teensy black kitten a couple of years ago. I had gone outside, and heard this tiny little baby kitten crying, and crying, and crying. I found him under my house (I tempted him out with some tuna). I named him Endymion. He was beautiful and I loved him. He was maybe 10 weeks old. One morning I noticed he was slower coming to breakfast. By afternoon he was having to drag his hind legs. I took him to the vet, and she did all sorts of tests. Could find nothing wrong. No injury, no bacteria or virus. She thought it might be non-bacterial encephalitis, but wouldn't have been contagious to the other cats. He would have to be taken to the litter box, and "helped" to potty. He might get better or he might not. She claimed the odds were very much against him. I talked with hubby, and we decided that he needed to be sent on his way. I went down there, I held him close (and cried my eyes out). The vet came in, gave him his shot, and on her way out, she said... "We could have saved him, he would have been fine. You just needed to give him more time." OMG! What an *AWFUL* thing for a vet to do. I hope you dropped her like a hot brick! (I typoed that last word beginning with a "P" and think maybe I should have left it that way). That one preys on my mind, even now. I'd only known him for a week (but he would come bounding out whenever I would call Endy, Endy, Endy). Who knew that someone could get so attached so quickly? I still cry (like now), when I think of him. He was such a sweet little guy. Dave says he was here so he is a lot easier for him in some ways- he thought she was gone at home and all that was left was her body But I still think ..what if? I could say don't do that, but then I do that all the time (particularly as noted above). I do have the "advantage" of having kept a couple of my babies around too long (Nicodemus - RB May 2003 and Barnabus), knowing in hind sight, that I did them a disservice, but my heart wasn't ready. -- Hugs, CatNipped See all our masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped See the RPCA FAQ site, created by "Yowie", maintained by Mark Edwards, at: http://www.professional-geek.net/rpcablog/ Email: L(dot)T(dot)Crews(at)comcast(dot)net |
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"Smokie Darling (Annie)" wrote:
You know, someone near here had dumped a teensy black kitten a couple of years ago. I had gone outside, and heard this tiny little baby kitten crying, and crying, and crying. I found him under my house (I tempted him out with some tuna). I named him Endymion. He was beautiful and I loved him. He was maybe 10 weeks old. One morning I noticed he was slower coming to breakfast. By afternoon he was having to drag his hind legs. I took him to the vet, and she did all sorts of tests. Could find nothing wrong. No injury, no bacteria or virus. She thought it might be non-bacterial encephalitis, but wouldn't have been contagious to the other cats. He would have to be taken to the litter box, and "helped" to potty. He might get better or he might not. She claimed the odds were very much against him. I talked with hubby, and we decided that he needed to be sent on his way. I went down there, I held him close (and cried my eyes out). The vet came in, gave him his shot, and on her way out, she said... "We could have saved him, he would have been fine. You just needed to give him more time." That one preys on my mind, even now. I'd only known him for a week (but he would come bounding out whenever I would call Endy, Endy, Endy). Who knew that someone could get so attached so quickly? I still cry (like now), when I think of him. He was such a sweet little guy. OMG, I would think so! That horrifies me - I have tears in my eyes just thinking about it. The most tragic death is one that was preventable, IMO. Especially when you're talking about a baby, of any species. This is really upsetting, and it didn't even happen to me. That woman should not be allowed to practice medicine, veterinary or otherwise. This is beyond cruelty toward you, although it's that, too. But what about the kitten? She took his life for no reason. She sounds insane. I'm so sorry you had such a horrible and unprofessional vet in that situation. Joyce |
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