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Innova Evo - Results???
Hi All,
Has anyone had experience with Innova Evo, dry and canned? I was thinking of switching both my cat's over (both are on different foods). One cat is on ZD for eosinophilic granuloma, the other cat is on SO Royal Canin. Both cats have not significantly improved on either of these diets, and if anything, being on two different foods has only caused problems because as hard as I might try, both end up eating the other's food on the odd occassion, which, of course causes all kinds of problems i.e. allergic breakouts, urinary problems. Also, not too happy with ZD's preservatives, and, the fact that new studies suggest that dry is superior to canned, as far as oral health goes. The cat on the ZD will not eat the canned ZD (I won't either the stuff is AWFUL) and therefore, is she eats nothing but strictly dry, has been the last 6 years, which I feel may be resulting in the stomatitis and gum inflammation and some reasearch I've been doing about the condition. At any rate any thoughts on this food, experiences, would be great. Thanks |
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Innova Evo - Results???
Last winter I gave our semi-feral outside cat the dry Evo because of its
lack of grains (She gets a 1/4 can wet food twice a day as well). She put on a lot of weight in a hurry! The label said you can feed less of it but I can't imagine a cat would feel full on half the amount s/he would normally get. After the bag was used up I switched her back to California Natural. Of my two indoor cats one has chronic IBD and can't eat any foods with either grain or vegetable in it and the other has chronic FLUTD. They are both on canned Wysong Au Jus Turkey and Chicken and I add salmon oil and Instincts TC supplement for raw diet and do very well (knock on wood) with no recurrences of either problem. Stacey "KittiKat" wrote in message ps.com... Hi All, Has anyone had experience with Innova Evo, dry and canned? I was thinking of switching both my cat's over (both are on different foods). One cat is on ZD for eosinophilic granuloma, the other cat is on SO Royal Canin. Both cats have not significantly improved on either of these diets, and if anything, being on two different foods has only caused problems because as hard as I might try, both end up eating the other's food on the odd occassion, which, of course causes all kinds of problems i.e. allergic breakouts, urinary problems. Also, not too happy with ZD's preservatives, and, the fact that new studies suggest that dry is superior to canned, as far as oral health goes. The cat on the ZD will not eat the canned ZD (I won't either the stuff is AWFUL) and therefore, is she eats nothing but strictly dry, has been the last 6 years, which I feel may be resulting in the stomatitis and gum inflammation and some reasearch I've been doing about the condition. At any rate any thoughts on this food, experiences, would be great. Thanks |
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I have a cat with food allergies (or at least that's what my vet thinks).
He develops sores on his mouth. I read somewhere that it may be the grains in the food that causes the problem. I tried feeding my cat foods without grains, including the Innova Evo. He still developed the sores. The only thing that concerned me about the Innova Evo was the high amount of protein. Now I feed my cat Natural Balance venison and peas. It comes in canned and dry and I buy it at Petco. It is the same type of limited ingredient food that you would get from your vet designed for cats with food allergies. He's been eating the Natural Balance for almost 2 months now and no mouth sores! So I think this is working. Sue "KittiKat" wrote in message ps.com... Hi All, Has anyone had experience with Innova Evo, dry and canned? I was thinking of switching both my cat's over (both are on different foods). One cat is on ZD for eosinophilic granuloma, the other cat is on SO Royal Canin. Both cats have not significantly improved on either of these diets, and if anything, being on two different foods has only caused problems because as hard as I might try, both end up eating the other's food on the odd occassion, which, of course causes all kinds of problems i.e. allergic breakouts, urinary problems. Also, not too happy with ZD's preservatives, and, the fact that new studies suggest that dry is superior to canned, as far as oral health goes. The cat on the ZD will not eat the canned ZD (I won't either the stuff is AWFUL) and therefore, is she eats nothing but strictly dry, has been the last 6 years, which I feel may be resulting in the stomatitis and gum inflammation and some reasearch I've been doing about the condition. At any rate any thoughts on this food, experiences, would be great. Thanks |
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blkcatgal wrote: I have a cat with food allergies (or at least that's what my vet thinks). He develops sores on his mouth. I read somewhere that it may be the grains in the food that causes the problem. I tried feeding my cat foods without grains, including the Innova Evo. He still developed the sores. The only thing that concerned me about the Innova Evo was the high amount of protein. Now I feed my cat Natural Balance venison and peas. It comes in canned and dry and I buy it at Petco. It is the same type of limited ingredient food that you would get from your vet designed for cats with food allergies. He's been eating the Natural Balance for almost 2 months now and no mouth sores! So I think this is working. Sue Hi Sue, My cat had suspected IBD and probably food allergies. The vet also put him a novel protein and carb like your cat is getting now. The allergies aren't always the grain, it's sometimes the protein or other ingredients. Here's an excerpt from a website: --------------------- Several studies have shown that some very common pet food ingredients are more likely to cause food allergies than others. In cats, the most common offenders are fish, beef, and dairy products. http://www.drsfostersmith.com/pic/ar...id=297&aid=542 --------------------- Glad your cat is doing better. Rhonda |
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Thanks All!
I like the WYSONG website and found a dealer not far from me, so I am going to drop in there probably Tuesday. I am finding the whole thing very confusing, as to what to feed, how to rotate, what to supplement, etc., I am sure the dealer can help figure this out. Right now, my little cat is totally off her SO Royal Canin, no way will she eat it. I've tried everything to get her to eat! It is the food because she'd eat dry if she could get her mouth on it - 2 days ago, she actually hid in the bedroom where I feed the other cat dry ZD. Sure enough I notice she is NO where to be found, I go into the bedroom and there she is, polishing off the other cat's dry kibble, an entire bowl. Now she is sick, lethargic and basically unhappy - she's done this before and become funky. She hates the canned Royal Canin, but the vet has told me no dry food for her, so she can't even have the dry Royal Canin. Anywho...I bought some Wellness canned Chicken and she totally pigged out on this - I only gave her a couple of tablespoons, and she ate it no problem, she'd have the entire can if I gave it to her. BUT I just read Wellness can give some cats the runs because of the veggies?? Anyway, my vet is only big on the food sold in her practice, and my cat has tried every canned variety here with no luck - there is nothing really left, other than switching her to "non" friendly urinary food. I am not even sure what actually caused the stone attack in the first place - She only developed stones once, she was on the ZD Dry for feline (for no other reason other than convience that the other cat was on it, vet said it would be ok for her to eat it too). For whatever reason, 3 months later, she had UTI symptoms, and the vet found a very high crystal count (this was at six months of age). This is when she was switched Canned Royal Canin -She hasn't had an attack since, but, then again, any wet food may have prevented this from happening (she is not a big water drinker). I am sort of at witts end - the cat can't not eat, and she is thin to begin with (7-8 pounds). Does any one feed raw??? I am hoping to eventually go to Raw? I've just got Pitcairn's latest book and will read it tonight. I have his first version, which he states you can either cook the meat or leave it raw? Anyone try Raw??? |
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With Sebastian (the one with the chronic FLUTD) I add a little bit of water
to his canned food so it has the consistency of a bowl of oatmeal. This is what his surgeon recommended to increase his water intake. I was this short of trying the BARF diet on Julian because everything else gave him the runs and gas. I learned about the Wysong from an IBD list and so far it has worked. The Wysong Call of the Wild powder was too rough on his system and it wasn't cat specific. I think they make one called Biotic ph plus something for cats with UTIs. Stacey "KittiKat" wrote in message oups.com... Thanks All! I like the WYSONG website and found a dealer not far from me, so I am going to drop in there probably Tuesday. I am finding the whole thing very confusing, as to what to feed, how to rotate, what to supplement, etc., I am sure the dealer can help figure this out. Right now, my little cat is totally off her SO Royal Canin, no way will she eat it. I've tried everything to get her to eat! It is the food because she'd eat dry if she could get her mouth on it - 2 days ago, she actually hid in the bedroom where I feed the other cat dry ZD. Sure enough I notice she is NO where to be found, I go into the bedroom and there she is, polishing off the other cat's dry kibble, an entire bowl. Now she is sick, lethargic and basically unhappy - she's done this before and become funky. She hates the canned Royal Canin, but the vet has told me no dry food for her, so she can't even have the dry Royal Canin. Anywho...I bought some Wellness canned Chicken and she totally pigged out on this - I only gave her a couple of tablespoons, and she ate it no problem, she'd have the entire can if I gave it to her. BUT I just read Wellness can give some cats the runs because of the veggies?? Anyway, my vet is only big on the food sold in her practice, and my cat has tried every canned variety here with no luck - there is nothing really left, other than switching her to "non" friendly urinary food. I am not even sure what actually caused the stone attack in the first place - She only developed stones once, she was on the ZD Dry for feline (for no other reason other than convience that the other cat was on it, vet said it would be ok for her to eat it too). For whatever reason, 3 months later, she had UTI symptoms, and the vet found a very high crystal count (this was at six months of age). This is when she was switched Canned Royal Canin -She hasn't had an attack since, but, then again, any wet food may have prevented this from happening (she is not a big water drinker). I am sort of at witts end - the cat can't not eat, and she is thin to begin with (7-8 pounds). Does any one feed raw??? I am hoping to eventually go to Raw? I've just got Pitcairn's latest book and will read it tonight. I have his first version, which he states you can either cook the meat or leave it raw? Anyone try Raw??? |
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KittiKat wrote:
Anyone try Raw??? I don't...but, then again, my Joanie died several weeks ago and it's only been the past week or two that I've started to investigate raw feeding. When my next cat and I find each other, I'll very likely do raw feeding -- which a big part of the reason why she'll be a kitten. The consistent claims I've come across for raw feeding is that it solves exactly the sorts of problems you described. It also makes sense to me, in a gut-feeling sort of way, that commercial foods should cause those kinds of problems. The cat nutrition site that makes the most sense to me that I've come across so far is: http://catinfo.org/ There're plenty of people who advocate /not/ grinding meat, too. While they have good points, I don't think those points are appropriate for the (relatively) large prey used for raw cat food. I can easily see buying bags of frozen mice (like what's usually sold for feeding reptiles) and serving them (thawed and gently warmed, of course) to a cat whole. But chicken? Rabbit? Those bones need a bit of grinding for a housecat, I should think. Cheers, b& -- EAC Memographer BAAWA Knight of Blasphemy ``All but God can prove this sentence true.'' ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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From what I have read, Raw makes the most sense. Now, I grapple with
telling my vet - who I am sure will not be too impressed. I am almost *scared* to switch my two cats over to what I know is a better diet for both of them...I think the vet has me brainwashed into believing commercial prescription food is the best choice. When I look at my choices, the only other route I have to take with both my cats, is more drugs, more anitbiotics, more corticosteroids...more medical intervention that may never really clear up the granuloma, stomatitis, UTI's etc etc - skin, mouth, bladder problems. It is a never ending problem. Pitcairn's book is very insightful - I think I will either go with Stacey's routine of feeding her cats the canned WYSONG and supplement with the Instinct TC. Once I feel more comfortable with altering the food, hopefully I'll get the guts to buy the raw diet for a couple of weeks and see what happens - it will probably take them that long to adjust. If this goes over ok, I'll switch to making it myself. Jo |
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