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Hi
I have two cats, who have just turned a year old. One is ginger and male (Tayla), the other black and female(Jet). Over the last few weeks, Jet has started too become harder and harder to get in a night, which has resulted in both of them being out all night, as they're very close and I couldnt keep Tayla in whilst his sister is out. I dont mind the occasional 'all nighter' but I do prefer them in at night. Jets refusal to come is now getting 'worse' and I'm lucky if she comes in the house at all over say, two days- it all seems like a game to her, she comes near, then runs off and I dont see her for hours before the whole thing repeats again. I am getting very concerned as she also turns up her nose at whatever food I put down for her, and although she nibbles biscuits occassionally (which I'm now started to leave outside) and she is literally started to look very thin. She also seems to be going timid, ie jumping at the slightest noise, which is why I want her in, as something has obviously frightened her. Tayla is a real home boy and mummies boy, and is very obedient, but he is very slowly starting to emulate his sisters behaviour, though he does eat very very well, so I'm not concerned there. I konw the weather is very hot, so maybe I'm being paranoid, and they are only milling around in the garden or in the bushes at the back of the house, but I'm very concerned that they're going to be out all of the time. Although Jet is the main problem, they are very very close, and rarely without each other - though Jet is unphased if she is out and Tayla in, she knows if she is patient, Tayla will be back out with her at some point! I have never had a cat behave like this, but I'm so worried that she (or both!) will turn ferral and I'll lose them. Does anyone have any idea on what I can do? Many thanks in advance |
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Hi,
The cats should definitely be indoors at night - that's important - and I'm glad that you are doing that. But you do have to face the fact that you are going against their natural instincts, which tell them they are safer at night when nothing can see them! Plus you have teenage cats, and like teenagers everywhere, they don't like curfews : But you are the boss here and you have to enforce the rules, otherwise there won't be any. Change the rules so they get fed in the evening after they BOTH come in (and not until then). Do not feed them outside - they live inside with you - not in the yard - and you have to be clear about that. Decide on a time that is curfew. It's okay to give in to daylight savings time and make it an hour later in the summer, but otherwise hold fast on curfew. Call them a couple of times, bring inside whichever cat comes, and then (hard as it is), close the door. It will drive you crazy, but a rule isn't a rule unless it is enforced. Recalcitrant cat will act like they don't care, but after a night outside w/o food, it will get mightly sick of the whole thing by dawn. Then do the same thing the next night at exactly the same time. If you're softhearted, you can occasionally open the door and see if the late stayer wants to take advantage of the opportunity to sccot indoors, but don't do it too often or the point will be lost. Basically you have to make it clear that curfew is curfew, and that food, treats, love and play will come to them if they come inside for the night at the right time. Don't chase the cat around outdoors, just establish the rules and uphold them. And before everybody else says it, - yes cats are safer indoors all the time. But if you are going to take indoor/outdoor route, then cat curfew is a good thing to have in place. It takes some work to establish at first, but should work pretty much like clockwork once the pattern is established. wrote: Hi I have two cats, who have just turned a year old. One is ginger and male (Tayla), the other black and female(Jet). Over the last few weeks, Jet has started too become harder and harder to get in a night, which has resulted in both of them being out all night, as they're very close and I couldnt keep Tayla in whilst his sister is out. I dont mind the occasional 'all nighter' but I do prefer them in at night. Jets refusal to come is now getting 'worse' and I'm lucky if she comes in the house at all over say, two days- it all seems like a game to her, she comes near, then runs off and I dont see her for hours before the whole thing repeats again. I am getting very concerned as she also turns up her nose at whatever food I put down for her, and although she nibbles biscuits occassionally (which I'm now started to leave outside) and she is literally started to look very thin. She also seems to be going timid, ie jumping at the slightest noise, which is why I want her in, as something has obviously frightened her. Tayla is a real home boy and mummies boy, and is very obedient, but he is very slowly starting to emulate his sisters behaviour, though he does eat very very well, so I'm not concerned there. I konw the weather is very hot, so maybe I'm being paranoid, and they are only milling around in the garden or in the bushes at the back of the house, but I'm very concerned that they're going to be out all of the time. Although Jet is the main problem, they are very very close, and rarely without each other - though Jet is unphased if she is out and Tayla in, she knows if she is patient, Tayla will be back out with her at some point! I have never had a cat behave like this, but I'm so worried that she (or both!) will turn ferral and I'll lose them. Does anyone have any idea on what I can do? Many thanks in advance |
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On a similar note, my cat has the opposite problem: She comes in early
enough, but also wants to eat and go back out early, ~3:30 AM - 4 AM most days. To be fair, she is not entirely to blame. For a while, our schedules had us out the door by 5 AM and we fed her ~ 4:00AM - 4:30AM. Now we can and would like to sleep a little longer, but she hasn't gotten the message! She doesn't go beyond a few well-fenced yards, so we are not worried about her safety here, just our sleep. We do have a cat door but that is not the answer because she also wants to eat at that time. We refuse to put her on kibble for our convenience, hence the standoff. :-) I would appreciate any ideas... |
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Yes, you are right to be very worried about them being out at night.
At the very least, keep the one cat in at night who will stay in. Maybe instead of emulating the cat outside, the outside one will want to come in sooner. Do whatever you can, even bringing them both in earlier than normal to trick them into being inside at nightfall. But I would definitely keep at least the one in so that you are not encouraging bad behavior in that one too! I've never had outside cats -- we've just tried to make the indoors more interesting for them. We've build "cat balconies," window extensions encased in hardware cloth for the cats to be outside, but be safely inside at the same time. Good luck, Rhonda wrote: ] I have never had a cat behave like this, but I'm so worried that she (or both!) will turn ferral and I'll lose them. Does anyone have any idea on what I can do? Many thanks in advance |
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wrote in message ups.com... I have never had a cat behave like this, but I'm so worried that she (or both!) will turn ferral and I'll lose them. Does anyone have any idea on what I can do? Gee... Let's think... How about Don't Let Them Out? |
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Camilla Baird wrote:
: What are you feeding her? Why is kibble not an option? I would suggest a : bowl of kibble which she could nibble at at her convenience - she could : get meat or canned food as a treat when you get up. IMHO her basic food : should be a good quality kibble. I appreciate all advice, but my research has led me to conclude just the opposite: most food should be canned, just a little kibble to make sure they will eat it when they must. Of 14 weekly meals I feed her about 10-12 are canned. I have tried leaving small "treat portions" of kibble, hoping this would be enough for now and I can feed her later, but this has not worked. Right now I am working on getting her to accept eating 15 minutes late every 1-2 weeks or so. I am also trying to exercise her in the evening hoping she will sleep sounder and later. So far her habits have proved stronger than my efforts, but let's see how it goes. |
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Kiran wrote:
Camilla Baird wrote: : What are you feeding her? Why is kibble not an option? I would suggest a : bowl of kibble which she could nibble at at her convenience - she could : get meat or canned food as a treat when you get up. IMHO her basic food : should be a good quality kibble. I appreciate all advice, but my research has led me to conclude just the opposite: most food should be canned, just a little kibble to make sure they will eat it when they must. Of 14 weekly meals I feed her about 10-12 are canned. I have tried leaving small "treat portions" of kibble, hoping this would be enough for now and I can feed her later, but this has not worked. Right now I am working on getting her to accept eating 15 minutes late every 1-2 weeks or so. I am also trying to exercise her in the evening hoping she will sleep sounder and later. So far her habits have proved stronger than my efforts, but let's see how it goes. Interesting how different research leads to different conclusions. ;-) There might also be different feeding traditions in different parts of the world. In Denmark (where I am), good quality kibble is considered the best basic food. Canned food and raw meat are treats. Most kibble contains more fibres than most canned food - fibres keep the cat from feeling hungry. Camilla |
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Camilla Baird wrote:
In Denmark (where I am), good quality kibble is considered the best basic food. Canned food and raw meat are treats. Most kibble contains more fibres than most canned food - fibres keep the cat from feeling hungry. I think the main problem is the carbs in dry food that are not part of their natural diet. I don't know about with cats, but carbs make me more hungry! Protein is what fills me up. Rhonda |
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