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Cat vs Human
I consider Gizmo to be fairly well domesticated, that was until last night.
We were watching TV together (yes, she watches TV then talks to me in the ads) when she wanted to play, so I started tickling her.....all was good for a while until she bit me and started swiping me and hissing. I hadn't been doing anything to her I wouldn't normally do, things she always loves......for some reason she chucked a spastic last night then ignored me for an hour (sat in front of the heater, facing it, not looking at me, not even purring)......so, I kept watching TV and alas, she came back and started sucking up again and things were OK for the rest of the night. She even let us sleep in this morning (just as well as it is Saturday). It just reminded me that our furry feline friends really are animals and will defend themselves if necessary. Either that or she had a case of PMT (hmmmm.....shes desexed.....maybe not) We are still friends this morning so I think I am worthy of her attention now!!! Angela (and the savage Gizmo) |
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Angela,
Undoubtedly I'll be castigated for mentioning this, but I have some thoughts about animals/pets attacking their masters. Except for my encounter with Miss Kitty (our former feral), which I provoked--and handled stupidly--I've never been bitten by an animal, although friends and family members sometimes have by the same critters I've been around. A really super dog and I once attended obedience school and the question came up regarding what to do about a dog growling or becoming menacing. The trainer said the thing to do was strike them sharply, under their chin, and slam their mouth shut. Likely it would cause them to bite their tongue, but the snap would also cause a jar to their brain, thus changing any particular thought they might have at the moment. A few weeks later, he was behaving badly--as though he'd do as he darn well pleased (this was a 130 pound German Shepard) and retreated under the kitchen table from me. As I was reaching in for his chain collar, he got as far as the beginning of a growl. Since my hand was so close to his chin, I instantly slammed his mouth shut, which also drove his head into the underside of the table, causing all the tableware to rattle and clatter. It was quite a racket and must have made a lasting impression on him. He never offered to get nasty and mean with me or any other member of the family...ever again, in all the time he was with us. The times I've been around other animals which have become menacing, I've worked with that key thought the trainer mentioned of *changing their minds* by doing something to break the pattern of what was unfolding. Once it was acting as though I was completely indifferent to the animal's presence, once I chased a dog away, and another time--my scariest encounter--I was confronted by a dog, on a pitch dark night. I couldn't see the dog, which sounded large, and he was very menacing, blocking my path. In that case, all I could do was give the universal "No!" command, followed by "go home" and some other authoritarian verbal orders. Whatever it was worked and he vanished back into the night. The thing of it is, you, us, we people, are at the top of the food chain and the big creatures in charge. We're the bosses and, while it's nice and fun to kid around about *them* being our masters or our equals, it just isn't so, nor can it be. I don't know what was going on in your pet's mind, but would offer that she apparently believes she can discipline you, in her way, for whatever infraction you committed. If she thinks that, it's dangerous and dumb, my friend. In the same situation you had, where your cat bit you, I would have instantly slapped her and knocked her to the floor. I wouldn't have hit her hard enough to hurt her, but I would have *changed her mind* and left her with the knowledge that I had a physical power, and ability to use it, far greater than she had ever imagined. The message would have been, we can be nice, or, if you insist on being nasty, you have no idea what you're in for. The better choice, kitty, is to be nice to the boss. Anyway, that's my thinking on the matter and I'm sure somebody will tell me how I'm wrong ;-) Cheers, Jack "Angela Ryan" wrote in message ... I consider Gizmo to be fairly well domesticated, that was until last night. We were watching TV together (yes, she watches TV then talks to me in the ads) when she wanted to play, so I started tickling her.....all was good for a while until she bit me and started swiping me and hissing. I hadn't been doing anything to her I wouldn't normally do, things she always loves......for some reason she chucked a spastic last night then ignored me for an hour (sat in front of the heater, facing it, not looking at me, not even purring)......so, I kept watching TV and alas, she came back and started sucking up again and things were OK for the rest of the night. She even let us sleep in this morning (just as well as it is Saturday). It just reminded me that our furry feline friends really are animals and will defend themselves if necessary. Either that or she had a case of PMT (hmmmm.....shes desexed.....maybe not) We are still friends this morning so I think I am worthy of her attention now!!! Angela (and the savage Gizmo) |
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On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 7:25:34 -0700, JHBennett wrote
(in message ): No, I agree with you. If a pet attacks me it is gone. Hell, if a spouse attacks it should be gone. I take my safety seriously. But with a pet you have to consider others as well. If it is willing to attack you would happen to someone else? I don't push animals and I wouldn't consider something I did to provoke one to apply. Maya bit me once while trying to pill her. My fault, you put your fingers in an animals mouth, you take you chances. She scratched me once but she was scared by the electric clippers I was holding, again my fault. But, I would never allow a situation where I feared for my safety. Angela, Undoubtedly I'll be castigated for mentioning this, but I have some thoughts about animals/pets attacking their masters. Except for my encounter with Miss Kitty (our former feral), which I provoked--and handled stupidly--I've never been bitten by an animal, although friends and family members sometimes have by the same critters I've been around. A really super dog and I once attended obedience school and the question came up regarding what to do about a dog growling or becoming menacing. The trainer said the thing to do was strike them sharply, under their chin, and slam their mouth shut. Likely it would cause them to bite their tongue, but the snap would also cause a jar to their brain, thus changing any particular thought they might have at the moment. A few weeks later, he was behaving badly--as though he'd do as he darn well pleased (this was a 130 pound German Shepard) and retreated under the kitchen table from me. As I was reaching in for his chain collar, he got as far as the beginning of a growl. Since my hand was so close to his chin, I instantly slammed his mouth shut, which also drove his head into the underside of the table, causing all the tableware to rattle and clatter. It was quite a racket and must have made a lasting impression on him. He never offered to get nasty and mean with me or any other member of the family...ever again, in all the time he was with us. The times I've been around other animals which have become menacing, I've worked with that key thought the trainer mentioned of *changing their minds* by doing something to break the pattern of what was unfolding. Once it was acting as though I was completely indifferent to the animal's presence, once I chased a dog away, and another time--my scariest encounter--I was confronted by a dog, on a pitch dark night. I couldn't see the dog, which sounded large, and he was very menacing, blocking my path. In that case, all I could do was give the universal "No!" command, followed by "go home" and some other authoritarian verbal orders. Whatever it was worked and he vanished back into the night. The thing of it is, you, us, we people, are at the top of the food chain and the big creatures in charge. We're the bosses and, while it's nice and fun to kid around about *them* being our masters or our equals, it just isn't so, nor can it be. I don't know what was going on in your pet's mind, but would offer that she apparently believes she can discipline you, in her way, for whatever infraction you committed. If she thinks that, it's dangerous and dumb, my friend. In the same situation you had, where your cat bit you, I would have instantly slapped her and knocked her to the floor. I wouldn't have hit her hard enough to hurt her, but I would have *changed her mind* and left her with the knowledge that I had a physical power, and ability to use it, far greater than she had ever imagined. The message would have been, we can be nice, or, if you insist on being nasty, you have no idea what you're in for. The better choice, kitty, is to be nice to the boss. Anyway, that's my thinking on the matter and I'm sure somebody will tell me how I'm wrong ;-) Cheers, Jack "Angela Ryan" wrote in message ... I consider Gizmo to be fairly well domesticated, that was until last night. We were watching TV together (yes, she watches TV then talks to me in the ads) when she wanted to play, so I started tickling her.....all was good for a while until she bit me and started swiping me and hissing. I hadn't been doing anything to her I wouldn't normally do, things she always loves......for some reason she chucked a spastic last night then ignored me for an hour (sat in front of the heater, facing it, not looking at me, not even purring)......so, I kept watching TV and alas, she came back and started sucking up again and things were OK for the rest of the night. She even let us sleep in this morning (just as well as it is Saturday). It just reminded me that our furry feline friends really are animals and will defend themselves if necessary. Either that or she had a case of PMT (hmmmm.....shes desexed.....maybe not) We are still friends this morning so I think I am worthy of her attention now!!! Angela (and the savage Gizmo) |
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"John Biltz" wrote in message thlink.net... On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 7:25:34 -0700, JHBennett wrote (in message ): No, I agree with you. If a pet attacks me it is gone. Hell, if a spouse attacks it should be gone. I take my safety seriously. But with a pet you have to consider others as well. If it is willing to attack you would happen to someone else? I don't push animals and I wouldn't consider something I did to provoke one to apply. Maya bit me once while trying to pill her. My fault, you put your fingers in an animals mouth, you take you chances. She scratched me once but she was scared by the electric clippers I was holding, again my fault. But, I would never allow a situation where I feared for my safety. [[[[[snip]]]]]] I appreciate the reinforcement, John (Wow, talk about tossing behavioral jargon around!). But, when you think about it, that's how animals communicate what the limits are to other animals, via some physical sign of force or warning. You make a very good point about the safety of others who might be around your pet. And how many times have we heard something like, "that's the first time Precious has ripped the throat out of a child." Most pets are very accepting and protecting of children in a family, but, then, there are some which should be carefully watched and monitored. Truth be known, that's likely a good practice with any pet. Cheers, Jack |
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"JHBennett" wrote in message ...
Angela, (selective snipping for length) , and another time--my scariest encounter--I was confronted by a dog, on a pitch dark night. I couldn't see the dog, which sounded large, and he was very menacing, blocking my path. In that case, all I could do was give the universal "No!" command, followed by "go home" and some other authoritarian verbal orders. Whatever it was worked and he vanished back into the night. The thing of it is, you, us, we people, are at the top of the food chain and the big creatures in charge. We're the bosses and, while it's nice and fun to kid around about *them* being our masters or our equals, it just isn't so, nor can it be. I don't know what was going on in your pet's mind, but would offer that she apparently believes she can discipline you, in her way, for whatever infraction you committed. If she thinks that, it's dangerous and dumb, my friend. Cheers, Jack Mike has always been a mean cat. He's always been a biter, and though it's happened less and less over the years (he's now 11) occasionally he would just *attack* - he would get a strange look in his eyes, and there was no stopping him unless you could throw up a barrier of some kind, like shove a pillow in front of you to block him. It was almost like a seizure of some kind, and was pretty scary, just because it was so weird. He could do some damage whenever this happened. That said, there is a limit to just how much damage a 10 pound cat can do to a 100 pound person. Assuming you can keep the cat from your face and eyes, bad scratches is about the extent of it. In my experience, under ordinary circumstances the commanding voice thing will do the trick. If an animal is completely out of control, all bets are off, of course. I have my own scary dog encounter, and would like to ask your opinion. Once, DH and I were out walking at night, when a man pulled into his driveway across the street. Big, *big* rottweiler leaped out of the back of his truck and headed for DH and me, barking and snarling like he meant business. My DH did not grow up around pets, and his instinct is to run, which he began to do, grabbing my arm. The dog's owner was running into the street after the dog, trying to catch him before he could get to us. I snatched my arm away from DH and yelled ******!!!NO!!!******* at the dog in my very best commanding voice. The dog froze in his tracks. So did DH and the dog's owner insert ladylike snort of glee I like dogs, and like rotties, but I know this man and can easily believe he'd trained this dog to be mean. The shout at least stopped the dog long enough to let his owner get to him, after he himself had shaken off the "NO" command g but what would you suggest in that situation? We were not carrying a stick or anything, and the dog outweighed me by at least 30 or 40 pounds. Humans aren't *always* at the top of the food chain, in a situation like this. ------ Krista |
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"LOL" wrote in message
om... "JHBennett" wrote in message ... Angela, (selective snipping for length) , and another time--my scariest encounter--I was confronted by a dog, on a pitch dark night. I couldn't see the dog, which sounded large, and he was very menacing, blocking my path. In that case, all I could do was give the universal "No!" command, followed by "go home" and some other authoritarian verbal orders. Whatever it was worked and he vanished back into the night. The thing of it is, you, us, we people, are at the top of the food chain and the big creatures in charge. We're the bosses and, while it's nice and fun to kid around about *them* being our masters or our equals, it just isn't so, nor can it be. I don't know what was going on in your pet's mind, but would offer that she apparently believes she can discipline you, in her way, for whatever infraction you committed. If she thinks that, it's dangerous and dumb, my friend. Cheers, Jack Mike has always been a mean cat. He's always been a biter, and though it's happened less and less over the years (he's now 11) occasionally he would just *attack* - he would get a strange look in his eyes, and there was no stopping him unless you could throw up a barrier of some kind, like shove a pillow in front of you to block him. It was almost like a seizure of some kind, and was pretty scary, just because it was so weird. He could do some damage whenever this happened. That said, there is a limit to just how much damage a 10 pound cat can do to a 100 pound person. Assuming you can keep the cat from your face and eyes, bad scratches is about the extent of it. In my experience, under ordinary circumstances the commanding voice thing will do the trick. If an animal is completely out of control, all bets are off, of course. I have my own scary dog encounter, and would like to ask your opinion. Once, DH and I were out walking at night, when a man pulled into his driveway across the street. Big, *big* rottweiler leaped out of the back of his truck and headed for DH and me, barking and snarling like he meant business. My DH did not grow up around pets, and his instinct is to run, which he began to do, grabbing my arm. The dog's owner was running into the street after the dog, trying to catch him before he could get to us. I snatched my arm away from DH and yelled ******!!!NO!!!******* at the dog in my very best commanding voice. The dog froze in his tracks. So did DH and the dog's owner insert ladylike snort of glee I like dogs, and like rotties, but I know this man and can easily believe he'd trained this dog to be mean. The shout at least stopped the dog long enough to let his owner get to him, after he himself had shaken off the "NO" command g but what would you suggest in that situation? We were not carrying a stick or anything, and the dog outweighed me by at least 30 or 40 pounds. Humans aren't *always* at the top of the food chain, in a situation like this. ------ Krista I don't have any suggestions, other than what you did, but I'd guess that's the best thing you could have done. Running is a VERY bad idea in such a situation. If you stay put, you might be attacked, but if you run, you definitely will be. Joy |
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"LOL" wrote in message om... "JHBennett" wrote in message ... Angela, (selective snipping for length) , and another time--my scariest encounter--I was confronted by a dog, on a pitch dark night. I couldn't see the dog, which sounded large, and he was very menacing, blocking my path. In that case, all I could do was give the universal "No!" command, followed by "go home" and some other authoritarian verbal orders. Whatever it was worked and he vanished back into the night. The thing of it is, you, us, we people, are at the top of the food chain and the big creatures in charge. We're the bosses and, while it's nice and fun to kid around about *them* being our masters or our equals, it just isn't so, nor can it be. I don't know what was going on in your pet's mind, but would offer that she apparently believes she can discipline you, in her way, for whatever infraction you committed. If she thinks that, it's dangerous and dumb, my friend. Cheers, Jack Mike has always been a mean cat. He's always been a biter, and though it's happened less and less over the years (he's now 11) occasionally he would just *attack* - he would get a strange look in his eyes, and there was no stopping him unless you could throw up a barrier of some kind, like shove a pillow in front of you to block him. It was almost like a seizure of some kind, and was pretty scary, just because it was so weird. He could do some damage whenever this happened. That said, there is a limit to just how much damage a 10 pound cat can do to a 100 pound person. Assuming you can keep the cat from your face and eyes, bad scratches is about the extent of it. In my experience, under ordinary circumstances the commanding voice thing will do the trick. If an animal is completely out of control, all bets are off, of course. I have my own scary dog encounter, and would like to ask your opinion. Once, DH and I were out walking at night, when a man pulled into his driveway across the street. Big, *big* rottweiler leaped out of the back of his truck and headed for DH and me, barking and snarling like he meant business. My DH did not grow up around pets, and his instinct is to run, which he began to do, grabbing my arm. The dog's owner was running into the street after the dog, trying to catch him before he could get to us. I snatched my arm away from DH and yelled ******!!!NO!!!******* at the dog in my very best commanding voice. The dog froze in his tracks. So did DH and the dog's owner insert ladylike snort of glee I like dogs, and like rotties, but I know this man and can easily believe he'd trained this dog to be mean. The shout at least stopped the dog long enough to let his owner get to him, after he himself had shaken off the "NO" command g but what would you suggest in that situation? We were not carrying a stick or anything, and the dog outweighed me by at least 30 or 40 pounds. Humans aren't *always* at the top of the food chain, in a situation like this. ------ Krista Wow! Kudos for keeping your wits in a bad situation, Krista ;-) I do believe in the *no* command, virtually every dog has heard it. I understand trained guard dogs--and I know the police dogs for the Air Force--are sometimes trained to respond to commands in German. If pressed, I think I could manage ;-) On the practical side--and I offer this with some trepidation--I am convinced I can kill a dog, with my bare hands, if I am ever seriously attacked, and I am determined to do so. If you are a fan of the movie *Outlaw Josie Wales* you'll recall the scene where Wales is describing how the people must fight for their lives, admonishing them that they must "...get mad dog mean..." to survive. Animals have a mouth full of teeth and are fast. We, however, have a better brain and can think in stratigic and tactical terms. Predictably, a trained dog will likely go for an arm, as we've seen in films of police training. I believe it possible to break a dogs neck, if it takes your forearm. The method would be a variation of a killing, hand to hand combat tactic, I picked up from a book on the subject from WWII. In the case of killing an enemy combatant, the method is to get your forearm under the chin of an opponent, from behind. Once you have your arm under the chin, you hook your hand into the crook of the elbow, of your other arm, with the hand of that arm at the back of the head. Once you have achieved this grip (it's rather simple, really), you step back allowing the weight of the person to bear on the neck, as you bend the head/neck forward, toward the chest. Applying that same principle to an attacking dog, let him have the forearm, place your free hand just behind its head, grip your forearm, step back and bend the dog's head back over its body. I haven't tried it, so can't say for sure it would work. However, once when my 130 pound German Shepard and I were playing, he had his mouth wrapped around my arm. I very gently took the hold I've described and simply held him, to get some assessment of the practical usefullness of the tactic--if ever needed. He was greatly distressed by the situation, and I can guarantee I didn't hurt him even in the slightest. Likely dogs have never encountered a creature with fists, so wouldn't have a clue about what they can do. Actually, if you believe some of the kung-foo nonsence, I suppose you can stop a tank. An attacking dog would be vulnerable to a blow to the throat. I'd hit with my fist and as hard as I could manage--mad dog mean, remember? The idea would be to crush the windpipe/larynx and, if it doesn't work the first time, try it again. A blow to that area is quite painful anyway, and, if you do manage to crush those vital structures, the amimal will likely die......certainly ought to take some of the enthusiasm out of them. Then there is the matter of the eyes. In our era of sanitized--*G* rated--staged for TV fights, nobody gouges eyes out. For that reason, I doubt anybody would think of disabling an opponent by blinding them. Eyes are well protected by bone structure from slashing attacks but, a thumb (use the thumbs) driven straight into the corner of the eye, then pressed outward toward the side, would be painful and, if done with the determination the situation warrants, would dislodge the eye from the socket. If the loss of one eye doesn't discourage the beast, take out the other and your now blinded opponent should be completely at your mercy. Otherwise, I would advise giving the idea of how you can fight back some thought. What can you do, and how you would do it? A kick to the chest can be very dangerous, you know. People have been killed because their hearts have been stopped by such a blow, why not a dog? Also, in my case, I can imagine a situation where I might grab a dog by a hind leg and sling it against the pavement. But I have the size and strength to do that, while you may not. The problem gets simpler if there are two of you and only one attacking dog. If the dog is attacking your friend, you can kick it in the chest--as hard as you can. In the alternative, you might be able to get on its back and get your forearm around the neck, to strangle it. If a dog were attacking you, your friend might be able to grab a hind leg and pull it away, then bash its brains out by swinging it overhead and against the ground. I should also mention I've carried a pocket knife for many years, but have never thought of it as a weapon, obviously, since I'm just now getting around to it. Mine happens to be what's called a *stockman's* model, with a 3" blade, that's as sharp as a razor, literally. It will split a single hair (long boring story behind that) and, should I ever think of it, when attacked by a dog or any other creature, the affair will be settled in a hurry, if I can get it into action, as it would require both hands to open it. However, the state of the art now is pocket knives which can be opened with one hand. The ones I've seen, which would be suitable for defensive purposes, have a button on the blade which allows you to swing the blade open with the thumb, while holding the handle, with one hand. As far as I know, pocket knives are legal in every state and local of the US. You should be able to locate something suitable at a gun shop, sporting goods store, shopping center, etc. Thus armed (tools and brains are why we're at the top of the FC) whether you stab an attacking animal or cut it's throat becomes a matter of personal preference and opportunity. There is also a thing called a *bear bomb,* which dischrges a cloud of pepper gas. If you are thinking those little canisters of tear gas hanging on hooks at the stores you frequent, they're rather harmless, I understand, and not what I'm talking about. I learned about the things in a discussion on a Canadian news group where the subject of bear attacks came up. We were knocking around a situation where an inexperienced fellow wanted to know if a 9mm pistol would be sufficient protection against a Grizzly bear (in fact it's suicidal) and several of the Canadians advocated the use of a bear bomb. Apparently they are available in the US, presumably in bear country, and one fellow described the effectiveness by relating his watching a video of a bear, running away from a group, diving under water repeatedly, as it swam away down stream. I would offer that a device which would turn a Grizzly would do the job with just about any other critter around, regardless of whether having two or four legs, which might annoy you ;-) Weapons can also be improvised and the bar of soap, in the sock, is a classic. It makes a pretty fair blackjack. Also ball point pens or pencils can be used to stab. Give it some thought and I'm certain you can work out some contingency plans that will serve you well, should the situation ever come up again. Of course, in the final analysis, one can always kneel down, in the fetal position, protecting the neck and throat, with the hands clasped behind the head and arms held close to the body. Such would be against my combative nature and assuredly the last thing I would do, but supposedly it is how one can survive a bear attack. Speaking of which, you have heard about this advisory put out by the state of Montana, haven't you? ***Bear Advisory*** Due to the growing number of people recreating in remote and wilderness areas, the incidents of encounters with bears are increasing. Accordingly, the Montana Department of Natural Resources is issuing this advisory, in the interest of public safety. Given the opportunity, bears will avoid contact with humans, if they know they are about. For this reason, many hikers and campers, will afix little bells to their clothing to announce their presence to wildlife in the area. When in bear country, people should also be alert to signs that bears are near. Black bear scat will resemble that of a domestic dog and contain bits of fur and berries. Grizzly bear scat will contain bits of clothing and little bells. Cheers, Krista ;-) Jack PS--Regarding your concern for humans remaining at the top of the food chain, I think we can manage it for awhile longer yet. |
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"JHBennett" wrote in message ...
(snipped) ***Bear Advisory*** Due to the growing number of people recreating in remote and wilderness areas, the incidents of encounters with bears are increasing. Accordingly, the Montana Department of Natural Resources is issuing this advisory, in the interest of public safety. Given the opportunity, bears will avoid contact with humans, if they know they are about. For this reason, many hikers and campers, will afix little bells to their clothing to announce their presence to wildlife in the area. When in bear country, people should also be alert to signs that bears are near. Black bear scat will resemble that of a domestic dog and contain bits of fur and berries. Grizzly bear scat will contain bits of clothing and little bells. Cheers, Krista ;-) Jack PS--Regarding your concern for humans remaining at the top of the food chain, I think we can manage it for awhile longer yet. ROFL! I love the bear advisory! I will forward that, if you don't mind. I do have a pocket knife on my keychain, but it is a tiny thing I use for zipping open boxes, etc.; maybe I should get a bigger one. And some of us do think of eyes - I am a smoker and it has occurred to me what an effective deterrent a lit cigarette in the eye would be. Thanks for the thought provoking post - I am hoping not to *have* to worry about my position on the food chain, though. :-) ------ Krista |
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"LOL" wrote in message om... "JHBennett" wrote in message ... (snipped) ***Bear Advisory*** Due to the growing number of people recreating in remote and wilderness areas, the incidents of encounters with bears are increasing. Accordingly, the Montana Department of Natural Resources is issuing this advisory, in the interest of public safety. Given the opportunity, bears will avoid contact with humans, if they know they are about. For this reason, many hikers and campers, will afix little bells to their clothing to announce their presence to wildlife in the area. When in bear country, people should also be alert to signs that bears are near. Black bear scat will resemble that of a domestic dog and contain bits of fur and berries. Grizzly bear scat will contain bits of clothing and little bells. Cheers, Krista ;-) Jack PS--Regarding your concern for humans remaining at the top of the food chain, I think we can manage it for awhile longer yet. ROFL! I love the bear advisory! I will forward that, if you don't mind. Be my guest. I stole it from someone else ;-) --JB I do have a pocket knife on my keychain, but it is a tiny thing I use for zipping open boxes, etc.; maybe I should get a bigger one. Yup. Go shopping. I think you'll like what you find. --JB And some of us do think of eyes - I am a smoker and it has occurred to me what an effective deterrent a lit cigarette in the eye would be. Hmmmmm.... In the practical application, it might be too slow, vice the thrust of the thumb. For sure, you're not going to have time to light up ;-)))) --JB Thanks for the thought provoking post - I am hoping not to *have* to worry about my position on the food chain, though. :-) Hope it gives you some food for thought and peace of mind. Actually, when I hear about cases where dogs have killed someone, such as the woman attacked for 15 minutes in her California appartment building, I'm convinced they didn't fight back. Cheers, Jack |
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I like dogs, but I am extremely wary around them. It enrages me when people do
not have their dogs on leashes and they allow the dogs to come right up to me. What the hell is that? Get your dog AWAY from me! I was at a playground with a babysitting charge just yesterday and a lady was there with her dog, on a leash at least. (There was a huge no-dog sign, but it couldn't possibly apply to HER). A kid walked up to within a few metres of them and said "may I pet your dog"? Just as he had been taught. The woman replied, "Huh? Yeah, sure.". The kid goes up to the dog and the dog jumps back and gets all upset. Not barking or anything, but still. The woman says, "Oh, be careful! You have to go slow because he doesn't know you. HE DOESN'T LIKE PEOPLE." (emphasis mine). WTF???? If that had been the kid i was taking care of, I would have thrown a huge fit. What an irresponsible idiot. Anyhow, I carry a collapsable baton, in part to whack any dog who tries to bite me. In a self-defence way, I mean. Like I said, I LIKE dogs. But I'm wary. I have my own scary dog encounter, and would like to ask your opinion. Once, DH and I were out walking at night, when a man pulled into his driveway across the street. Big, *big* rottweiler leaped out of the back of his truck and headed for DH and me, barking and snarling like he meant business. My DH did not grow up around pets, and his instinct is to run, which he began to do, grabbing my arm. The dog's owner was running into the street after the dog, trying to catch him before he could get to us. I snatched my arm away from DH and yelled ******!!!NO!!!******* at the dog in my very best commanding voice. The dog froze in his tracks. So did DH and the dog's owner insert ladylike snort of glee I like dogs, and like rotties, but I know this man and can easily believe he'd trained this dog to be mean. The shout at least stopped the dog long enough to let his owner get to him, after he himself had shaken off the "NO" command g but what would you suggest in that situation? We were not carrying a stick or anything, and the dog outweighed me by at least 30 or 40 pounds. Humans aren't *always* at the top of the food chain, in a situation like this. |
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