"The Russian Blue" book, anyone?

Oh Dear Bob - You still haven't given me anything to back up your facts
except your own words. Even if I were to believe you, it's very sad that you
consider your house a prison, I don't consider mine one. My cats are
perfectly happy. And I can tell the difference. The rules may be different
in the UK (although I find that hard to believe) but in the US all the SPCAs
and private rescue agencies have policies requesting you raise your cats
indoors ONLY. I didn't realize they were all animal abusers too. Imagine my
surprise when I found out. They site all the reasons that have so patiently
been explained to you by so many people. You know, those silly life
expectancy theories, illness, starvation, fighting, hit by cars, etc... Have
you ever wondered why so many people are for keeping them indoors and so few
for outdoors? Could it be there are more humane people out there than not?
Or ones who know better than you? I know you'll find that hard to believe,
but consider the possibility, please. I don't like to be so snotty with
people, but I don't usually get as angry as you make me. Most people will
listen to another's point of view in a reasonable manner, and then respond
appropriately. But you just simply tell everyone they are out and out wrong,
couldn't possibly be right, and in the nastiest of ways. You'll certainly
never persuade anyone with your technique even if your argument did have any
redeeming qualities. Just keep calling people names, I'm sure we'll all come
to love and respect your point of view that way. And that's the important
thing, isn't it Bob?

Bec

"Bob Brenchley." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 03:35:42 -0500, "Rebecca & Terry Jernigan"
wrote:

"Bob Brenchley." wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:48:55 +0000 (UTC), "*SooZy*"
wrote:


"Tracy" wrote in message
. com...
Jellico is totally correct. The ideal life for a cat, if it can be
managed, is an indoor-outdoor life. Given the cat overpopulation
problem. I would not go so far as to suggest that anyone who is in
an
urban environment shouldn't have a cat - a safe and loving home is
always better than no home at all, but I, at least, would express
regret if I were forced to keep my cats indoors 24/7.

I have seen cats wary about going through doors to the outside when
they are concerned whether or not the door will remain open for them
to return. I have never seen a cat in my life that would not
joyfully
bound into a yard when it is no longer worried about that. Never,
ever, ever.

my 3 cats are indoor only cats, they have plenty of attention, raw
meat
treats, toys, cat towers, play room etc they were bred indoors and
have
never been out apart from in a carrier visiting/vet. Ragdoll haven't
got
very good self defence, but I bet they would love the outside world
really
though if given the chance to go out.

My reasons for keeping them in, is because I have no garden, live on a
busy
road, they would get stolen. I chose Ragdolls because they seem happy
to
live indoors.

If you live in an area where, for whatever reason, you feel unable to
allow a healthy cat its freedom to roam for at least some time each
day (and only you can judge your area) then don't have a cat.

It really is as simple as that.

Moronic posting style corrected. You have not been charged for this
service but I reserve the right to charge in the future if you make
the same mistake again.

Bob,

What a spectacle! You remind me of a 6 year old boy, "Is to!", "Is
not!"...
blah, blah, blah. I have 12 cats. All have been rescued from the
outdoors.
And all are extremely thankful for it. Their isn't 1 of them that wants
to
experience that again. They were miserable, sick, starving, and beaten up
when I found them. And believe me they wouldn't have lived long. Any of
them. (Should I have left them out there?)

If the choice was that - or the rest of their lives in prison, then
yes, you should have left them. However, must as you may dislike
facing facts, that was NOT the only choice. You have the choice to
rescue them and then find them proper indoor/outdoor homes - why
didn't you?

Of course a rescued cat has to spend some time cut off from its
natural style of life, but rescue centers do what they can to keep
that to a minimum. Running such a rescue operation is hard work, and
it is often sad to see the cats go, but for them it is the best
choice.

Part of what I do now is to take in rescues that have been deprived of
their right to roam, it can take a lot of time working with then to
build their confidence back up - but the reward of seeing them running
and climbing outside makes the hard work worth it.

They all stay in 24/7. The
youngest one who died of an illness was 18 and the oldest was 21. They
are
happy, fed, warm, exercised - I play with them every day - cuddled, and
sleep with us. I'm allergic to fleas, and we don't have any now.

What you mean is you don't have many. Fleas exist just about
everywhere man and animals exist - except maybe the International
Space Station.

But we have
had, from the cats when they were first brought into the house. One we
brought in had FeV and had to be euthanized, who knows how many other
strays
in the neighborhood he'd infected before then. When you're running your
mouth about not having a cat unless you can let it outside, and how it's
so
safe for them - that it's "A FACT", please show me the facts. Don't just
keep saying it's a fact. Show where you got that information. Because I
don't believe a word you say. Nor does any other reasonably intelligent
person reading your postings. So please just put up or shut up, for all
our
sakes. Thanks, Bob.

The FACT is that none of the UK's major shelters, nor most of the
smaller ones that for various reasons affiliate with the big boys,
will normally rehome a healthy cat to an indoor only environment. This
has been confirmed on numerous occasions by people who work at the
grass roots level - actually finding homes for cats.

The facts are that cats show signs of stress when deprived of time
outside.

If you live in an area where, for whatever reason, you feel unable to
allow a healthy cat its freedom to roam for at least some time each
day (and only you can judge your area) then don't have a cat. To have
a healthy cat, knowing you will keep it in 24/7 marks you are being
cruel, selfish, or both.

Bec


--
Bob.

In the beginning, there was nothing. And God said, "Let there be
Light." And there was still nothing, but you could see a bit better.

I've had one of my cats for 8 years and the other for 7 years and since I
live in Hawaii it's not a big deal to leave a door open - literally. I just
moved to an apartment and I don't have the liberty of allowing my cats the
freedeom to go in and out. Now they have to use a litterbox and the outside
is a vague memory to them. In all honesty, they are flourishing! My cats
used to be feral; I rescued them when each one was about 10 weeks old. For
never being cooped up before, I think they love it. They seek out more
attention, they're more loving, they purr more loudly, they are eating
better and their personalities are really coming out. I think they feel
more secure. They're even learning to get along with the dog.......but
that's another story. g

kilikini

I've had one of my cats for 8 years and the other for 7 years and since I
live in Hawaii it's not a big deal to leave a door open - literally. I just
moved to an apartment and I don't have the liberty of allowing my cats the
freedeom to go in and out. Now they have to use a litterbox and the outside
is a vague memory to them. In all honesty, they are flourishing! My cats
used to be feral; I rescued them when each one was about 10 weeks old. For
never being cooped up before, I think they love it. They seek out more
attention, they're more loving, they purr more loudly, they are eating
better and their personalities are really coming out. I think they feel
more secure. They're even learning to get along with the dog.......but
that's another story. g

kilikini

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 21:23:42 +0000, John Smith wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 15:56:59 +0000, in article
, Bob Brenchley.
wrote:


The FACT is that none of the UK's major shelters, nor most of the
smaller ones that for various reasons affiliate with the big boys,
will normally rehome a healthy cat to an indoor only environment. This
has been confirmed on numerous occasions by people who work at the
grass roots level - actually finding homes for cats.


Wrong!

Where's your source for this information. "Facts" need to be backed up
with SOURCES.

FYI I have had 3 perfectly healthy cats rehomed to indoor only
environments from Battersea Dogs Home.

Liar!

Having myself volunteered at Battersea in the past I can state quite
categorically that Battersea DO NOT rehome healthy cats to an indoor
only situation.

The facts are that cats show signs of stress when deprived of time
outside.


Wrong!

You are - but you don't have to invent lies to try and back it up.

--
Bob.

I see you've set aside this special time to humiliate yourself in
public.

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 21:23:42 +0000, John Smith wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 15:56:59 +0000, in article
, Bob Brenchley.
wrote:


The FACT is that none of the UK's major shelters, nor most of the
smaller ones that for various reasons affiliate with the big boys,
will normally rehome a healthy cat to an indoor only environment. This
has been confirmed on numerous occasions by people who work at the
grass roots level - actually finding homes for cats.


Wrong!

Where's your source for this information. "Facts" need to be backed up
with SOURCES.

FYI I have had 3 perfectly healthy cats rehomed to indoor only
environments from Battersea Dogs Home.

Liar!

Having myself volunteered at Battersea in the past I can state quite
categorically that Battersea DO NOT rehome healthy cats to an indoor
only situation.

The facts are that cats show signs of stress when deprived of time
outside.


Wrong!

You are - but you don't have to invent lies to try and back it up.

--
Bob.

I see you've set aside this special time to humiliate yourself in
public.

On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 03:44:50 -0500, "Rebecca & Terry Jernigan"
wrote:


"Bob Brenchley." wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 03:35:42 -0500, "Rebecca & Terry Jernigan"
wrote:

"Bob Brenchley." wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:48:55 +0000 (UTC), "*SooZy*"
wrote:


"Tracy" wrote in message
. com...
Jellico is totally correct. The ideal life for a cat, if it can be
managed, is an indoor-outdoor life. Given the cat overpopulation
problem. I would not go so far as to suggest that anyone who is in
an
urban environment shouldn't have a cat - a safe and loving home is
always better than no home at all, but I, at least, would express
regret if I were forced to keep my cats indoors 24/7.

I have seen cats wary about going through doors to the outside when
they are concerned whether or not the door will remain open for them
to return. I have never seen a cat in my life that would not
joyfully
bound into a yard when it is no longer worried about that. Never,
ever, ever.

my 3 cats are indoor only cats, they have plenty of attention, raw
meat
treats, toys, cat towers, play room etc they were bred indoors and
have
never been out apart from in a carrier visiting/vet. Ragdoll haven't
got
very good self defence, but I bet they would love the outside world
really
though if given the chance to go out.

My reasons for keeping them in, is because I have no garden, live on a
busy
road, they would get stolen. I chose Ragdolls because they seem happy
to
live indoors.

If you live in an area where, for whatever reason, you feel unable to
allow a healthy cat its freedom to roam for at least some time each
day (and only you can judge your area) then don't have a cat.

It really is as simple as that.

Moronic posting style corrected. You have not been charged for this
service but I reserve the right to charge in the future if you make
the same mistake again.

Bob,

What a spectacle! You remind me of a 6 year old boy, "Is to!", "Is
not!"...
blah, blah, blah. I have 12 cats. All have been rescued from the
outdoors.
And all are extremely thankful for it. Their isn't 1 of them that wants
to
experience that again. They were miserable, sick, starving, and beaten up
when I found them. And believe me they wouldn't have lived long. Any of
them. (Should I have left them out there?)

If the choice was that - or the rest of their lives in prison, then
yes, you should have left them. However, must as you may dislike
facing facts, that was NOT the only choice. You have the choice to
rescue them and then find them proper indoor/outdoor homes - why
didn't you?

Of course a rescued cat has to spend some time cut off from its
natural style of life, but rescue centers do what they can to keep
that to a minimum. Running such a rescue operation is hard work, and
it is often sad to see the cats go, but for them it is the best
choice.

Part of what I do now is to take in rescues that have been deprived of
their right to roam, it can take a lot of time working with then to
build their confidence back up - but the reward of seeing them running
and climbing outside makes the hard work worth it.

They all stay in 24/7. The
youngest one who died of an illness was 18 and the oldest was 21. They
are
happy, fed, warm, exercised - I play with them every day - cuddled, and
sleep with us. I'm allergic to fleas, and we don't have any now.

What you mean is you don't have many. Fleas exist just about
everywhere man and animals exist - except maybe the International
Space Station.

But we have
had, from the cats when they were first brought into the house. One we
brought in had FeV and had to be euthanized, who knows how many other
strays
in the neighborhood he'd infected before then. When you're running your
mouth about not having a cat unless you can let it outside, and how it's
so
safe for them - that it's "A FACT", please show me the facts. Don't just
keep saying it's a fact. Show where you got that information. Because I
don't believe a word you say. Nor does any other reasonably intelligent
person reading your postings. So please just put up or shut up, for all
our
sakes. Thanks, Bob.

The FACT is that none of the UK's major shelters, nor most of the
smaller ones that for various reasons affiliate with the big boys,
will normally rehome a healthy cat to an indoor only environment. This
has been confirmed on numerous occasions by people who work at the
grass roots level - actually finding homes for cats.

The facts are that cats show signs of stress when deprived of time
outside.

If you live in an area where, for whatever reason, you feel unable to
allow a healthy cat its freedom to roam for at least some time each
day (and only you can judge your area) then don't have a cat. To have
a healthy cat, knowing you will keep it in 24/7 marks you are being
cruel, selfish, or both.

Bec




Moronic posting style corrected. You have been charged $25 for this
service, please remit by international money order as a donation to
Cats Protection (cats.org.uk) within the next 7 days. Be warned that
repeated use of this service will incur a escalating rate of charges.

Oh Dear Bob - You still haven't given me anything to back up your facts
except your own words. Even if I were to believe you, it's very sad that you
consider your house a prison, I don't consider mine one.

It is if your cats are not allowed out for at least some time during
the day.

My cats are
perfectly happy.

Sadly, many animal abusers delude themselves as you do.

And I can tell the difference. The rules may be different
in the UK (although I find that hard to believe) but in the US all the SPCAs
and private rescue agencies have policies requesting you raise your cats
indoors ONLY.

The cats are the same - it is just the degree of compassion for
animals that is different in the UK - here we love out animals.

I didn't realize they were all animal abusers too. Imagine my
surprise when I found out. They site all the reasons that have so patiently
been explained to you by so many people. You know, those silly life
expectancy theories,

Which are silly - indoor only cats do not live longer that
indoor/outdoor cats.

illness,

Actually more of a problem to indoor only cats who do not have a
properly developed immune system.

starvation,

Don't you feed your cats?

fighting,

Not a real problem.

hit by cars,

Does happen, but rare. It has now been about 4 years since the last
cat was killed in our neighbourhood by a car.

etc... Have
you ever wondered why so many people are for keeping them indoors and so few
for outdoors?

No - because it is only in the USA that this practice is widespread -
the rest of the world looks on in horror at the way you ill-treat your
cats.

Even then, the best estimate is that more than 60% of US cats go out.
Low, compared to the 85% of UK cats, but it is still a majority.

Could it be there are more humane people out there than not?

No, because even animal abusers like you are still in the minority.

Or ones who know better than you?

I side with the experts.

I know you'll find that hard to believe,
but consider the possibility, please. I don't like to be so snotty with
people, but I don't usually get as angry as you make me.

It is often true that people get angry when first forced to confront
their abuse of animals.

Most people will
listen to another's point of view in a reasonable manner, and then respond
appropriately.

Most people don't stand by and allow animals to suffer.

But you just simply tell everyone they are out and out wrong,

Yep - because they are.

couldn't possibly be right, and in the nastiest of ways. You'll certainly
never persuade anyone with your technique even if your argument did have any
redeeming qualities. Just keep calling people names, I'm sure we'll all come
to love and respect your point of view that way. And that's the important
thing, isn't it Bob?

You have the facts. Learn from them, or continue to be an animal
abuser.

Bec

--
Bob.

In the beginning, there was nothing. And God said, "Let there be
Light." And there was still nothing, but you could see a bit better.

On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 03:44:50 -0500, "Rebecca & Terry Jernigan"
wrote:


"Bob Brenchley." wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 03:35:42 -0500, "Rebecca & Terry Jernigan"
wrote:

"Bob Brenchley." wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:48:55 +0000 (UTC), "*SooZy*"
wrote:


"Tracy" wrote in message
. com...
Jellico is totally correct. The ideal life for a cat, if it can be
managed, is an indoor-outdoor life. Given the cat overpopulation
problem. I would not go so far as to suggest that anyone who is in
an
urban environment shouldn't have a cat - a safe and loving home is
always better than no home at all, but I, at least, would express
regret if I were forced to keep my cats indoors 24/7.

I have seen cats wary about going through doors to the outside when
they are concerned whether or not the door will remain open for them
to return. I have never seen a cat in my life that would not
joyfully
bound into a yard when it is no longer worried about that. Never,
ever, ever.

my 3 cats are indoor only cats, they have plenty of attention, raw
meat
treats, toys, cat towers, play room etc they were bred indoors and
have
never been out apart from in a carrier visiting/vet. Ragdoll haven't
got
very good self defence, but I bet they would love the outside world
really
though if given the chance to go out.

My reasons for keeping them in, is because I have no garden, live on a
busy
road, they would get stolen. I chose Ragdolls because they seem happy
to
live indoors.

If you live in an area where, for whatever reason, you feel unable to
allow a healthy cat its freedom to roam for at least some time each
day (and only you can judge your area) then don't have a cat.

It really is as simple as that.

Moronic posting style corrected. You have not been charged for this
service but I reserve the right to charge in the future if you make
the same mistake again.

Bob,

What a spectacle! You remind me of a 6 year old boy, "Is to!", "Is
not!"...
blah, blah, blah. I have 12 cats. All have been rescued from the
outdoors.
And all are extremely thankful for it. Their isn't 1 of them that wants
to
experience that again. They were miserable, sick, starving, and beaten up
when I found them. And believe me they wouldn't have lived long. Any of
them. (Should I have left them out there?)

If the choice was that - or the rest of their lives in prison, then
yes, you should have left them. However, must as you may dislike
facing facts, that was NOT the only choice. You have the choice to
rescue them and then find them proper indoor/outdoor homes - why
didn't you?

Of course a rescued cat has to spend some time cut off from its
natural style of life, but rescue centers do what they can to keep
that to a minimum. Running such a rescue operation is hard work, and
it is often sad to see the cats go, but for them it is the best
choice.

Part of what I do now is to take in rescues that have been deprived of
their right to roam, it can take a lot of time working with then to
build their confidence back up - but the reward of seeing them running
and climbing outside makes the hard work worth it.

They all stay in 24/7. The
youngest one who died of an illness was 18 and the oldest was 21. They
are
happy, fed, warm, exercised - I play with them every day - cuddled, and
sleep with us. I'm allergic to fleas, and we don't have any now.

What you mean is you don't have many. Fleas exist just about
everywhere man and animals exist - except maybe the International
Space Station.

But we have
had, from the cats when they were first brought into the house. One we
brought in had FeV and had to be euthanized, who knows how many other
strays
in the neighborhood he'd infected before then. When you're running your
mouth about not having a cat unless you can let it outside, and how it's
so
safe for them - that it's "A FACT", please show me the facts. Don't just
keep saying it's a fact. Show where you got that information. Because I
don't believe a word you say. Nor does any other reasonably intelligent
person reading your postings. So please just put up or shut up, for all
our
sakes. Thanks, Bob.

The FACT is that none of the UK's major shelters, nor most of the
smaller ones that for various reasons affiliate with the big boys,
will normally rehome a healthy cat to an indoor only environment. This
has been confirmed on numerous occasions by people who work at the
grass roots level - actually finding homes for cats.

The facts are that cats show signs of stress when deprived of time
outside.

If you live in an area where, for whatever reason, you feel unable to
allow a healthy cat its freedom to roam for at least some time each
day (and only you can judge your area) then don't have a cat. To have
a healthy cat, knowing you will keep it in 24/7 marks you are being
cruel, selfish, or both.

Bec




Moronic posting style corrected. You have been charged $25 for this
service, please remit by international money order as a donation to
Cats Protection (cats.org.uk) within the next 7 days. Be warned that
repeated use of this service will incur a escalating rate of charges.

Oh Dear Bob - You still haven't given me anything to back up your facts
except your own words. Even if I were to believe you, it's very sad that you
consider your house a prison, I don't consider mine one.

It is if your cats are not allowed out for at least some time during
the day.

My cats are
perfectly happy.

Sadly, many animal abusers delude themselves as you do.

And I can tell the difference. The rules may be different
in the UK (although I find that hard to believe) but in the US all the SPCAs
and private rescue agencies have policies requesting you raise your cats
indoors ONLY.

The cats are the same - it is just the degree of compassion for
animals that is different in the UK - here we love out animals.

I didn't realize they were all animal abusers too. Imagine my
surprise when I found out. They site all the reasons that have so patiently
been explained to you by so many people. You know, those silly life
expectancy theories,

Which are silly - indoor only cats do not live longer that
indoor/outdoor cats.

illness,

Actually more of a problem to indoor only cats who do not have a
properly developed immune system.

starvation,

Don't you feed your cats?

fighting,

Not a real problem.

hit by cars,

Does happen, but rare. It has now been about 4 years since the last
cat was killed in our neighbourhood by a car.

etc... Have
you ever wondered why so many people are for keeping them indoors and so few
for outdoors?

No - because it is only in the USA that this practice is widespread -
the rest of the world looks on in horror at the way you ill-treat your
cats.

Even then, the best estimate is that more than 60% of US cats go out.
Low, compared to the 85% of UK cats, but it is still a majority.

Could it be there are more humane people out there than not?

No, because even animal abusers like you are still in the minority.

Or ones who know better than you?

I side with the experts.

I know you'll find that hard to believe,
but consider the possibility, please. I don't like to be so snotty with
people, but I don't usually get as angry as you make me.

It is often true that people get angry when first forced to confront
their abuse of animals.

Most people will
listen to another's point of view in a reasonable manner, and then respond
appropriately.

Most people don't stand by and allow animals to suffer.

But you just simply tell everyone they are out and out wrong,

Yep - because they are.

couldn't possibly be right, and in the nastiest of ways. You'll certainly
never persuade anyone with your technique even if your argument did have any
redeeming qualities. Just keep calling people names, I'm sure we'll all come
to love and respect your point of view that way. And that's the important
thing, isn't it Bob?

You have the facts. Learn from them, or continue to be an animal
abuser.

Bec

--
Bob.

In the beginning, there was nothing. And God said, "Let there be
Light." And there was still nothing, but you could see a bit better.

On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 17:28:43 GMT, "kilikini"
wrote:

I've had one of my cats for 8 years and the other for 7 years and since I
live in Hawaii it's not a big deal to leave a door open - literally. I just
moved to an apartment and I don't have the liberty of allowing my cats the
freedeom to go in and out.

You should have thought of that BEFORE moving.

Now they have to use a litterbox and the outside
is a vague memory to them. In all honesty, they are flourishing!

Sadly, animal abusers often delude themselves that way.

My cats
used to be feral; I rescued them when each one was about 10 weeks old. For
never being cooped up before, I think they love it. They seek out more
attention, they're more loving, they purr more loudly, they are eating
better and their personalities are really coming out. I think they feel
more secure. They're even learning to get along with the dog.......but
that's another story. g

kilikini


--
Bob.

Light travels faster than sound. This is why you appear bright until
we hear you talk.

On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 17:28:43 GMT, "kilikini"
wrote:

I've had one of my cats for 8 years and the other for 7 years and since I
live in Hawaii it's not a big deal to leave a door open - literally. I just
moved to an apartment and I don't have the liberty of allowing my cats the
freedeom to go in and out.

You should have thought of that BEFORE moving.

Now they have to use a litterbox and the outside
is a vague memory to them. In all honesty, they are flourishing!

Sadly, animal abusers often delude themselves that way.

My cats
used to be feral; I rescued them when each one was about 10 weeks old. For
never being cooped up before, I think they love it. They seek out more
attention, they're more loving, they purr more loudly, they are eating
better and their personalities are really coming out. I think they feel
more secure. They're even learning to get along with the dog.......but
that's another story. g

kilikini


--
Bob.

Light travels faster than sound. This is why you appear bright until
we hear you talk.

"Bob Brenchley." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 17:28:43 GMT, "kilikini"
wrote:

I've had one of my cats for 8 years and the other for 7 years and since I
live in Hawaii it's not a big deal to leave a door open - literally. I
just
moved to an apartment and I don't have the liberty of allowing my cats
the
freedeom to go in and out.

You should have thought of that BEFORE moving.

Now they have to use a litterbox and the outside
is a vague memory to them. In all honesty, they are flourishing!

Sadly, animal abusers often delude themselves that way.

My cats
used to be feral; I rescued them when each one was about 10 weeks old.
For
never being cooped up before, I think they love it. They seek out more
attention, they're more loving, they purr more loudly, they are eating
better and their personalities are really coming out. I think they feel
more secure. They're even learning to get along with the dog.......but
that's another story. g

kilikini


--
Bob.

Light travels faster than sound. This is why you appear bright until
we hear you talk.

I didn't have a choice in the move. I rent. The landlady wanted her house
back. Having said that, it's EXTREMELY difficult to find housing on Maui.
My old 3 bedroom house with a nice fenced in yard rented at $850 a month. I
now am forced to live in cramped apartment housing for $1300 a month. What
to do - get rid of my girls? I don't THINK so. Gosh, you made me mad with
your statements. ABUSE my animals? There have been times when I've gone
without food for a day or two just to make sure that my animals were fed.
Before you go making foolish and accusatory statements about a person,
consider possibilities. Jeez!

kilikini