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Bob Brenchley. wrote in
: On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 21:02:36 GMT, "kilikini" wrote: "Tropical Tim" wrote in message . com... Hey Kilikini, What a drag having to move like that. I've always heard that Hawaii is costly to live in, but the rent your paying is awesome. Lots of luck with you cats. All of my cats always live indoors. They love it. Don't ever listen to that weird dude Bob Brenchley. The dude is a mess. He's about 5 cans short of a sixpack. By the way, what does your name mean? Tim "kilikini" wrote in message . .. I've had one of my cats for 8 years and the other for 7 years and since I live in Hawaii it's not a big deal to leave a door open - literally. I just moved to an apartment and I don't have the liberty of allowing my cats the freedeom to go in and out. Now they have to use a litterbox and the outside is a vague memory to them. In all honesty, they are flourishing! My cats used to be feral; I rescued them when each one was about 10 weeks old. For never being cooped up before, I think they love it. They seek out more attention, they're more loving, they purr more loudly, they are eating better and their personalities are really coming out. I think they feel more secure. They're even learning to get along with the dog.......but that's another story. g kilikini Moronic posting style corrected. You have been charged $25 for this service, please remit by international money order as a donation to Cats Protection (cats.org.uk) within the next 7 days. Be warned that repeated use of this service will incur a escalating rate of charges. Aloha Tim (and for all of you NG people - I'm only top-posting because the thread will make more sense this way now it's been started.) You show both your stupidity and selfishness. Thanks for the encouraging words. My cats are still doing well and are now even sleeping with me at night, which they've NEVER done before. I think they are going to be permanent indoor cats from now on. That shows you as an animal abuser, not a fit owner for cats. Well, at least one of them will be. If I ever get the chance to buy my own property and build a house I think I'll let my female orange-striped cat out. My black and white is just loving being indoors. Sadly there are too many animal abusers who delude themselves as you are. I got fairly angry at Mr. Bob Brenchley. There is no full-stop after Mr in the english language. I don't usually do that. The point I was trying to make was that I was forced to move out of my house that I'd been in for almost 8 years because the landlady wanted it back for her son who was getting married. When I took on pets I made a *lifetime* decision. They're like kids, you don't get rid of them when life becomes *inconvenient*. Then it was YOUR responsibility to find a place to live where your cats would get a proper life. You being to lazy to do that now causes suffering for your cats. It took me a month and a half to even find a place that would let me take my animals and I'm paying over $500 more a month to do so for less than half the space I had before. Yes, it's an apartment setting and my cats aren't free to go out. Then you should either find proper accommodation for you and the cats, or find new homes for the cats. Why should they suffer because of you? I could let them out on the lanai, but if they decide to jump over, well, bye-bye. It's a long drop down. NO thank you. There are over 80,000 feral cats on Maui alone. The humane society just recently built a $250,000 cat house to house all the caught/dropped off, unwanted cats on the island. Unfortunately, the new cat house along with the old house, can only hold so many and at least 20 cats are put down daily. That is unacceptable and show how lazy your local shelters are being. Only one of our major animal rescue organizations (none of which receive a penny of government money) still puts animals to sleep. For 2002, the latest year that figures are currently available for, the RSPCA put down less that 1,200 nation-wide in the whole year. That works out a just over 3 per day - for a country the size of the UK. And believe me, we find even that 1,200 a totally unacceptable figure. And remember, none of our shelters will normally home a healthy cat indoors only. To have Bob make such a suggestion that I should give my cats up because I can no longer let them outside is ludicrous! Your cats have rights. You have the responsibility to make sure they get a proper life. They'd most likely be put down! Is having them put down a better thing for them than being inside where they're loved and cared for? In my opinion - yes. The systematic cruelty you inflict of your cats by depriving them of a proper life is not acceptable. Sorry...........I'm getting worked up again. Jeesh! I didn't mean to rant on because of some trolling, closed-minded person and I appreciate all the kind words everyone gave me regarding my situation. Point is, I love my animals and where I go, for better or worse, they go with me. kilikini P.S. Kilikini means Christine in Hawaiian - well it's a diminutive term. Kilikina technically means Christine. Kilikini is almost like Christy. It has now taken on a new meaning - animal abuser. Ya know Bob, I agree that some cats need an outdoor life, but you are an idiot -- StocksRus® |
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On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 18:46:32 GMT, "StocksRus®"
wrote: Bob Brenchley. wrote in : It has now taken on a new meaning - animal abuser. Ya know Bob, I agree that some cats need an outdoor life, but you are an idiot lol! Indeed. Most cats *should* have an outdoor life if they're safe from unnatural danger. Unfortuately we've made an environment for them that isn't safe and so we have to deal with it the best we can. Bob thinks people with indoor cats are abusers, I think people who let their cats roam around are either incredibly irresponsible or just naive. We're all entitiled to our opinion but I find his obnoxious, petty name-calling style pretty offensive. For someone who moans about top-posters, he's not very au fait with the other rules of netiquette. |
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On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 18:46:32 GMT, "StocksRus®"
wrote: Bob Brenchley. wrote in : It has now taken on a new meaning - animal abuser. Ya know Bob, I agree that some cats need an outdoor life, but you are an idiot lol! Indeed. Most cats *should* have an outdoor life if they're safe from unnatural danger. Unfortuately we've made an environment for them that isn't safe and so we have to deal with it the best we can. Bob thinks people with indoor cats are abusers, I think people who let their cats roam around are either incredibly irresponsible or just naive. We're all entitiled to our opinion but I find his obnoxious, petty name-calling style pretty offensive. For someone who moans about top-posters, he's not very au fait with the other rules of netiquette. |
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On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 21:06:25 +0000, Jacqueline
wrote: On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 18:46:32 GMT, "StocksRus®" wrote: Bob Brenchley. wrote in m: It has now taken on a new meaning - animal abuser. Ya know Bob, I agree that some cats need an outdoor life, but you are an idiot lol! Indeed. Most cats *should* have an outdoor life if they're safe from unnatural danger. Unfortuately we've made an environment for them that isn't safe and so we have to deal with it the best we can. If you live in an area where, for whatever reason, you feel unable to allow a healthy cat its freedom to roam for at least some time each day (and only you can judge your area) then don't have a cat. To have a healthy cat, knowing you will keep it in 24/7 marks you are being cruel, selfish, or both. Bob thinks people with indoor cats are abusers, I think people who let their cats roam around are either incredibly irresponsible or just naive. We're all entitiled to our opinion but I find his obnoxious, petty name-calling style pretty offensive. For someone who moans about top-posters, he's not very au fait with the other rules of netiquette. Animal abusers put themselves outside the rules. -- Bob. You have not been charged for this lesson. Please pass it to all your friends so they may learn as well. |
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On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 21:06:25 +0000, Jacqueline
wrote: On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 18:46:32 GMT, "StocksRus®" wrote: Bob Brenchley. wrote in m: It has now taken on a new meaning - animal abuser. Ya know Bob, I agree that some cats need an outdoor life, but you are an idiot lol! Indeed. Most cats *should* have an outdoor life if they're safe from unnatural danger. Unfortuately we've made an environment for them that isn't safe and so we have to deal with it the best we can. If you live in an area where, for whatever reason, you feel unable to allow a healthy cat its freedom to roam for at least some time each day (and only you can judge your area) then don't have a cat. To have a healthy cat, knowing you will keep it in 24/7 marks you are being cruel, selfish, or both. Bob thinks people with indoor cats are abusers, I think people who let their cats roam around are either incredibly irresponsible or just naive. We're all entitiled to our opinion but I find his obnoxious, petty name-calling style pretty offensive. For someone who moans about top-posters, he's not very au fait with the other rules of netiquette. Animal abusers put themselves outside the rules. -- Bob. You have not been charged for this lesson. Please pass it to all your friends so they may learn as well. |
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"Bob Brenchley." wrote in message ... On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 21:02:36 GMT, "kilikini" wrote: "Tropical Tim" wrote in message om... Hey Kilikini, What a drag having to move like that. I've always heard that Hawaii is costly to live in, but the rent your paying is awesome. Lots of luck with you cats. All of my cats always live indoors. They love it. Don't ever listen to that weird dude Bob Brenchley. The dude is a mess. He's about 5 cans short of a sixpack. By the way, what does your name mean? Tim "kilikini" wrote in message .. . I've had one of my cats for 8 years and the other for 7 years and since I live in Hawaii it's not a big deal to leave a door open - literally. I just moved to an apartment and I don't have the liberty of allowing my cats the freedeom to go in and out. Now they have to use a litterbox and the outside is a vague memory to them. In all honesty, they are flourishing! My cats used to be feral; I rescued them when each one was about 10 weeks old. For never being cooped up before, I think they love it. They seek out more attention, they're more loving, they purr more loudly, they are eating better and their personalities are really coming out. I think they feel more secure. They're even learning to get along with the dog.......but that's another story. g kilikini Moronic posting style corrected. You have been charged $25 for this service, please remit by international money order as a donation to Cats Protection (cats.org.uk) within the next 7 days. Be warned that repeated use of this service will incur a escalating rate of charges. Aloha Tim (and for all of you NG people - I'm only top-posting because the thread will make more sense this way now it's been started.) You show both your stupidity and selfishness. Thanks for the encouraging words. My cats are still doing well and are now even sleeping with me at night, which they've NEVER done before. I think they are going to be permanent indoor cats from now on. That shows you as an animal abuser, not a fit owner for cats. Well, at least one of them will be. If I ever get the chance to buy my own property and build a house I think I'll let my female orange-striped cat out. My black and white is just loving being indoors. Sadly there are too many animal abusers who delude themselves as you are. I got fairly angry at Mr. Bob Brenchley. There is no full-stop after Mr in the english language. I don't usually do that. The point I was trying to make was that I was forced to move out of my house that I'd been in for almost 8 years because the landlady wanted it back for her son who was getting married. When I took on pets I made a *lifetime* decision. They're like kids, you don't get rid of them when life becomes *inconvenient*. Then it was YOUR responsibility to find a place to live where your cats would get a proper life. You being to lazy to do that now causes suffering for your cats. It took me a month and a half to even find a place that would let me take my animals and I'm paying over $500 more a month to do so for less than half the space I had before. Yes, it's an apartment setting and my cats aren't free to go out. Then you should either find proper accommodation for you and the cats, or find new homes for the cats. Why should they suffer because of you? I could let them out on the lanai, but if they decide to jump over, well, bye-bye. It's a long drop down. NO thank you. There are over 80,000 feral cats on Maui alone. The humane society just recently built a $250,000 cat house to house all the caught/dropped off, unwanted cats on the island. Unfortunately, the new cat house along with the old house, can only hold so many and at least 20 cats are put down daily. That is unacceptable and show how lazy your local shelters are being. Only one of our major animal rescue organizations (none of which receive a penny of government money) still puts animals to sleep. For 2002, the latest year that figures are currently available for, the RSPCA put down less that 1,200 nation-wide in the whole year. That works out a just over 3 per day - for a country the size of the UK. And believe me, we find even that 1,200 a totally unacceptable figure. And remember, none of our shelters will normally home a healthy cat indoors only. To have Bob make such a suggestion that I should give my cats up because I can no longer let them outside is ludicrous! Your cats have rights. You have the responsibility to make sure they get a proper life. They'd most likely be put down! Is having them put down a better thing for them than being inside where they're loved and cared for? In my opinion - yes. The systematic cruelty you inflict of your cats by depriving them of a proper life is not acceptable. Sorry...........I'm getting worked up again. Jeesh! I didn't mean to rant on because of some trolling, closed-minded person and I appreciate all the kind words everyone gave me regarding my situation. Point is, I love my animals and where I go, for better or worse, they go with me. kilikini P.S. Kilikini means Christine in Hawaiian - well it's a diminutive term. Kilikina technically means Christine. Kilikini is almost like Christy. It has now taken on a new meaning - animal abuser. -- Bob. I see you've set aside this special time to humiliate yourself in public. Oh, Bob............................... g kili |
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"Bob Brenchley." wrote in message ... On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 21:02:36 GMT, "kilikini" wrote: "Tropical Tim" wrote in message om... Hey Kilikini, What a drag having to move like that. I've always heard that Hawaii is costly to live in, but the rent your paying is awesome. Lots of luck with you cats. All of my cats always live indoors. They love it. Don't ever listen to that weird dude Bob Brenchley. The dude is a mess. He's about 5 cans short of a sixpack. By the way, what does your name mean? Tim "kilikini" wrote in message .. . I've had one of my cats for 8 years and the other for 7 years and since I live in Hawaii it's not a big deal to leave a door open - literally. I just moved to an apartment and I don't have the liberty of allowing my cats the freedeom to go in and out. Now they have to use a litterbox and the outside is a vague memory to them. In all honesty, they are flourishing! My cats used to be feral; I rescued them when each one was about 10 weeks old. For never being cooped up before, I think they love it. They seek out more attention, they're more loving, they purr more loudly, they are eating better and their personalities are really coming out. I think they feel more secure. They're even learning to get along with the dog.......but that's another story. g kilikini Moronic posting style corrected. You have been charged $25 for this service, please remit by international money order as a donation to Cats Protection (cats.org.uk) within the next 7 days. Be warned that repeated use of this service will incur a escalating rate of charges. Aloha Tim (and for all of you NG people - I'm only top-posting because the thread will make more sense this way now it's been started.) You show both your stupidity and selfishness. Thanks for the encouraging words. My cats are still doing well and are now even sleeping with me at night, which they've NEVER done before. I think they are going to be permanent indoor cats from now on. That shows you as an animal abuser, not a fit owner for cats. Well, at least one of them will be. If I ever get the chance to buy my own property and build a house I think I'll let my female orange-striped cat out. My black and white is just loving being indoors. Sadly there are too many animal abusers who delude themselves as you are. I got fairly angry at Mr. Bob Brenchley. There is no full-stop after Mr in the english language. I don't usually do that. The point I was trying to make was that I was forced to move out of my house that I'd been in for almost 8 years because the landlady wanted it back for her son who was getting married. When I took on pets I made a *lifetime* decision. They're like kids, you don't get rid of them when life becomes *inconvenient*. Then it was YOUR responsibility to find a place to live where your cats would get a proper life. You being to lazy to do that now causes suffering for your cats. It took me a month and a half to even find a place that would let me take my animals and I'm paying over $500 more a month to do so for less than half the space I had before. Yes, it's an apartment setting and my cats aren't free to go out. Then you should either find proper accommodation for you and the cats, or find new homes for the cats. Why should they suffer because of you? I could let them out on the lanai, but if they decide to jump over, well, bye-bye. It's a long drop down. NO thank you. There are over 80,000 feral cats on Maui alone. The humane society just recently built a $250,000 cat house to house all the caught/dropped off, unwanted cats on the island. Unfortunately, the new cat house along with the old house, can only hold so many and at least 20 cats are put down daily. That is unacceptable and show how lazy your local shelters are being. Only one of our major animal rescue organizations (none of which receive a penny of government money) still puts animals to sleep. For 2002, the latest year that figures are currently available for, the RSPCA put down less that 1,200 nation-wide in the whole year. That works out a just over 3 per day - for a country the size of the UK. And believe me, we find even that 1,200 a totally unacceptable figure. And remember, none of our shelters will normally home a healthy cat indoors only. To have Bob make such a suggestion that I should give my cats up because I can no longer let them outside is ludicrous! Your cats have rights. You have the responsibility to make sure they get a proper life. They'd most likely be put down! Is having them put down a better thing for them than being inside where they're loved and cared for? In my opinion - yes. The systematic cruelty you inflict of your cats by depriving them of a proper life is not acceptable. Sorry...........I'm getting worked up again. Jeesh! I didn't mean to rant on because of some trolling, closed-minded person and I appreciate all the kind words everyone gave me regarding my situation. Point is, I love my animals and where I go, for better or worse, they go with me. kilikini P.S. Kilikini means Christine in Hawaiian - well it's a diminutive term. Kilikina technically means Christine. Kilikini is almost like Christy. It has now taken on a new meaning - animal abuser. -- Bob. I see you've set aside this special time to humiliate yourself in public. Oh, Bob............................... g kili |
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Yo Bob,
You are such a complete asshole. You are not anything but a slob and a self proclaimed authority. YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CATS. Anyone out there in this group needs to just ignore Bob Brenchley and realize that he is an insane idiot. People like him always get there just reward. Someone will beat the crap out of him for us as soon as he opens that big mouth to the wrong person. Bob is a TOTAL cat abuser who should himself be put to sleep. Maybe someone will do that for us too. ******************************* Everything below this line is bull****. Bob Brenchley. wrote in message . .. Moronic posting style corrected. You have been charged $25 for this service, please remit by international money order as a donation to Cats Protection (cats.org.uk) within the next 7 days. Be warned that repeated use of this service will incur a escalating rate of charges. You show both your stupidity and selfishness. That shows you as an animal abuser, not a fit owner for cats. Sadly there are too many animal abusers who delude themselves as you are. There is no full-stop after Mr in the english language. Then it was YOUR responsibility to find a place to live where your cats would get a proper life. You being to lazy to do that now causes suffering for your cats. Then you should either find proper accommodation for you and the cats, or find new homes for the cats. Why should they suffer because of you? That is unacceptable and show how lazy your local shelters are being. Only one of our major animal rescue organizations (none of which receive a penny of government money) still puts animals to sleep. For 2002, the latest year that figures are currently available for, the RSPCA put down less that 1,200 nation-wide in the whole year. That works out a just over 3 per day - for a country the size of the UK. And believe me, we find even that 1,200 a totally unacceptable figure. And remember, none of our shelters will normally home a healthy cat indoors only. To have Bob make such a suggestion that I should give my cats up because I can no longer let them outside is ludicrous! Your cats have rights. You have the responsibility to make sure they get a proper life. In my opinion - yes. The systematic cruelty you inflict of your cats by depriving them of a proper life is not acceptable. It has now taken on a new meaning - animal abuser. |
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Yo Bob,
You are such a complete asshole. You are not anything but a slob and a self proclaimed authority. YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CATS. Anyone out there in this group needs to just ignore Bob Brenchley and realize that he is an insane idiot. People like him always get there just reward. Someone will beat the crap out of him for us as soon as he opens that big mouth to the wrong person. Bob is a TOTAL cat abuser who should himself be put to sleep. Maybe someone will do that for us too. ******************************* Everything below this line is bull****. Bob Brenchley. wrote in message . .. Moronic posting style corrected. You have been charged $25 for this service, please remit by international money order as a donation to Cats Protection (cats.org.uk) within the next 7 days. Be warned that repeated use of this service will incur a escalating rate of charges. You show both your stupidity and selfishness. That shows you as an animal abuser, not a fit owner for cats. Sadly there are too many animal abusers who delude themselves as you are. There is no full-stop after Mr in the english language. Then it was YOUR responsibility to find a place to live where your cats would get a proper life. You being to lazy to do that now causes suffering for your cats. Then you should either find proper accommodation for you and the cats, or find new homes for the cats. Why should they suffer because of you? That is unacceptable and show how lazy your local shelters are being. Only one of our major animal rescue organizations (none of which receive a penny of government money) still puts animals to sleep. For 2002, the latest year that figures are currently available for, the RSPCA put down less that 1,200 nation-wide in the whole year. That works out a just over 3 per day - for a country the size of the UK. And believe me, we find even that 1,200 a totally unacceptable figure. And remember, none of our shelters will normally home a healthy cat indoors only. To have Bob make such a suggestion that I should give my cats up because I can no longer let them outside is ludicrous! Your cats have rights. You have the responsibility to make sure they get a proper life. In my opinion - yes. The systematic cruelty you inflict of your cats by depriving them of a proper life is not acceptable. It has now taken on a new meaning - animal abuser. |
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Oh boo hoo Bob. I hardly think posting style is the issue here, but
since you are blindly groping for anything to criticize that would allow you to insult me, then I guess my posting style is as good as anything to attack. I top post because I prefer to read messages that way. I don't need a line by line of everything that I have just gotten through reading. Your posting style of replying at the end irritates me. I spoke rashly when I called you an idiot. What I actually believe is that you are ignorant. Ignorant people hold tenaciously to their beliefs regardless of any logical persuasive argument, and even in the face of compelling evidence that they are wrong, will continue to defend their erroneous beliefs. The idiot is you - and a top-posting one at that, how much lower on the intelligence scale can you get. |
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