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Old November 20th 08, 11:08 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
pussypower
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What do cat owners out there make of this. A near neighbor has a cat
with oral cancer and it cannot eat properly . It can eat but not
efficiently. It takes ages to eat a small amount because its face
is distorted by the cancer. Its mouth is permanently open and the
tongue hanging out. It is about 1/3rd to 1/2 of its original weight.
Is very bony and its eyes look odd. pupils large and at times it
seems less visually competant than it used to be. The diagnosis was
some months ago. The owner is making no efforts to have it euthanised
despite its disfigurement and its drooling all the time. It cannot
groom itself and is very dirty with bloodstained fur. vet advised at
the beginning that it need not be oput to sleep so long as it is able
to eat. However, I think what is meant by "eating" is not the same
thing as able to manage tiny amounts and slowly starving. Such a
difficult scenario when you know the owner. I wonder whether
perhaps they are just unable to face the decision to bring an end to
it. I wonder whether I should offer to go with them to the vet if
they feel the time is up. On the other hand, it is into potential
cruelty territory because as far as I can see an animals suffering
needs to be treated, even if the illness is terminal. No active
treatment is being provided and it seems to me that the animal has not
been examined for months. I hate to be complicit (not legally but
in terms of conscience) in this situation by failing to challenge
the owner. The owner may now feel that taking the animal to the vet
in what is so obviously a chillingly emaciated and disfigured
scraggy appearance might lead to some problems. I have no idea. The
animal does not appear to have stopped trying to eat and can walk.

Any advice would be appreciated
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Old November 20th 08, 11:29 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
Matthew[_3_]
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did you ask the owner what they were doing and if they could afford to do so
"pussypower" wrote in message
...
What do cat owners out there make of this. A near neighbor has a cat
with oral cancer and it cannot eat properly . It can eat but not
efficiently. It takes ages to eat a small amount because its face
is distorted by the cancer. Its mouth is permanently open and the
tongue hanging out. It is about 1/3rd to 1/2 of its original weight.
Is very bony and its eyes look odd. pupils large and at times it
seems less visually competant than it used to be. The diagnosis was
some months ago. The owner is making no efforts to have it euthanised
despite its disfigurement and its drooling all the time. It cannot
groom itself and is very dirty with bloodstained fur. vet advised at
the beginning that it need not be oput to sleep so long as it is able
to eat. However, I think what is meant by "eating" is not the same
thing as able to manage tiny amounts and slowly starving. Such a
difficult scenario when you know the owner. I wonder whether
perhaps they are just unable to face the decision to bring an end to
it. I wonder whether I should offer to go with them to the vet if
they feel the time is up. On the other hand, it is into potential
cruelty territory because as far as I can see an animals suffering
needs to be treated, even if the illness is terminal. No active
treatment is being provided and it seems to me that the animal has not
been examined for months. I hate to be complicit (not legally but
in terms of conscience) in this situation by failing to challenge
the owner. The owner may now feel that taking the animal to the vet
in what is so obviously a chillingly emaciated and disfigured
scraggy appearance might lead to some problems. I have no idea. The
animal does not appear to have stopped trying to eat and can walk.

Any advice would be appreciated



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Old November 20th 08, 11:46 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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Hey maybe the owner is sick of taking him to all these jerkoff
incompetent, greedy, unprofessional "doctors" of veterinary medicine?
In itself an exercise in cruelty for both owners and pets.
Offer to help pay to have it euthanized if your so worried.


"Matthew" wrote in
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did you ask the owner what they were doing and if they could afford to
do so "pussypower" wrote in message
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What do cat owners out there make of this. A near neighbor has a cat
with oral cancer and it cannot eat properly . It can eat but not
efficiently. It takes ages to eat a small amount because its face
is distorted by the cancer. Its mouth is permanently open and the
tongue hanging out. It is about 1/3rd to 1/2 of its original weight.
Is very bony and its eyes look odd. pupils large and at times it
seems less visually competant than it used to be. The diagnosis was
some months ago. The owner is making no efforts to have it
euthanised despite its disfigurement and its drooling all the time.
It cannot groom itself and is very dirty with bloodstained fur. vet
advised at the beginning that it need not be oput to sleep so long as
it is able to eat. However, I think what is meant by "eating" is
not the same thing as able to manage tiny amounts and slowly
starving. Such a difficult scenario when you know the owner. I
wonder whether perhaps they are just unable to face the decision to
bring an end to it. I wonder whether I should offer to go with them
to the vet if they feel the time is up. On the other hand, it is
into potential cruelty territory because as far as I can see an
animals suffering needs to be treated, even if the illness is
terminal. No active treatment is being provided and it seems to me
that the animal has not been examined for months. I hate to be
complicit (not legally but in terms of conscience) in this
situation by failing to challenge the owner. The owner may now feel
that taking the animal to the vet in what is so obviously a
chillingly emaciated and disfigured scraggy appearance might lead to
some problems. I have no idea. The animal does not appear to have
stopped trying to eat and can walk.

Any advice would be appreciated





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Old November 21st 08, 02:36 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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"pussypower" wrote in message
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What do cat owners out there make of this.


In all the time you spent typing that post, you could have picked up the cat
and taken it to be humanely euthanized.
What does this cat owner make of it? Your neighbor is a cruel heartless
jerk, you are a spineless do-nothing, and our opinions will do nothing to
help that cat..


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Old November 21st 08, 04:42 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
Matthew[_3_]
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"dejablues" wrote in message
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"pussypower" wrote in message
...
What do cat owners out there make of this.


In all the time you spent typing that post, you could have picked up the
cat and taken it to be humanely euthanized.
What does this cat owner make of it? Your neighbor is a cruel heartless
jerk, you are a spineless do-nothing, and our opinions will do nothing to
help that cat..


You forgot to add to have the humane society called upon to report the abuse
at least they will take the cat and take care of it correctly


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Old November 21st 08, 05:10 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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"Matthew" wrote in message
ng.com...

"dejablues" wrote in message
...

"pussypower" wrote in message
...
What do cat owners out there make of this.


In all the time you spent typing that post, you could have picked up the
cat and taken it to be humanely euthanized.
What does this cat owner make of it? Your neighbor is a cruel heartless
jerk, you are a spineless do-nothing, and our opinions will do nothing to
help that cat..


You forgot to add to have the humane society called upon to report the
abuse at least they will take the cat and take care of it correctly


I'm thinking troll.


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Old November 21st 08, 06:06 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
Matthew[_3_]
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he has posted here as DRAGON last year around this time
"cybercat" wrote in message
...

"Matthew" wrote in message
ng.com...

"dejablues" wrote in message
...

"pussypower" wrote in message
...
What do cat owners out there make of this.

In all the time you spent typing that post, you could have picked up the
cat and taken it to be humanely euthanized.
What does this cat owner make of it? Your neighbor is a cruel heartless
jerk, you are a spineless do-nothing, and our opinions will do nothing
to help that cat..


You forgot to add to have the humane society called upon to report the
abuse at least they will take the cat and take care of it correctly


I'm thinking troll.



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Old November 21st 08, 05:06 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
cybercat
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"Matthew" wrote in message
ng.com...
he has posted here as DRAGON last year around this time


I seem to recall that nym with some unpleasant associations.


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Old November 22nd 08, 02:28 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
-L.
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On Nov 20, 3:08 pm, pussypower wrote:
What do cat owners out there make of this. A near neighbor has a cat
with oral cancer and it cannot eat properly . It can eat but not
efficiently. It takes ages to eat a small amount because its face
is distorted by the cancer. Its mouth is permanently open and the
tongue hanging out. It is about 1/3rd to 1/2 of its original weight.
Is very bony and its eyes look odd. pupils large and at times it
seems less visually competant than it used to be. The diagnosis was
some months ago. The owner is making no efforts to have it euthanised
despite its disfigurement and its drooling all the time. It cannot
groom itself and is very dirty with bloodstained fur. vet advised at
the beginning that it need not be oput to sleep so long as it is able
to eat. However, I think what is meant by "eating" is not the same
thing as able to manage tiny amounts and slowly starving. Such a
difficult scenario when you know the owner. I wonder whether
perhaps they are just unable to face the decision to bring an end to
it. I wonder whether I should offer to go with them to the vet if
they feel the time is up. On the other hand, it is into potential
cruelty territory because as far as I can see an animals suffering
needs to be treated, even if the illness is terminal. No active
treatment is being provided and it seems to me that the animal has not
been examined for months. I hate to be complicit (not legally but
in terms of conscience) in this situation by failing to challenge
the owner. The owner may now feel that taking the animal to the vet
in what is so obviously a chillingly emaciated and disfigured
scraggy appearance might lead to some problems. I have no idea. The
animal does not appear to have stopped trying to eat and can walk.

Any advice would be appreciated


Take the cat in to be euthanized as long as it's not the same vet that
your neighbor uses. Tell them whatever you want - that it was a
stray, that it was dumped, whatever. It need not suffer.

-L.
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Old November 22nd 08, 05:50 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
MLB
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cybercat wrote:
"Matthew" wrote in message
ng.com...
he has posted here as DRAGON last year around this time


I seem to recall that nym with some unpleasant associations.


Sounds just like a Troll to me. MLB
 




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