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  #171  
Old August 23rd 05, 07:40 AM
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"Alison" wrote in message
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The RSPCA do put some cats to sleep. 35% will include cats that
are ill or not able to be rehomed , also bear in mind that the number
of cats handed over as unwanted are lower than the States .
I don't think the Iver was referring to feral cats. Sarah's not
mentioned which animal rescue societies euthenize them .
AFAIK, feral cats that are trapped by pest control will be PTS by the
pet control itself .
At our RSPCA branch , feral cats will be neutered /spayed and
returned if requested (or rehomed )if someone will take responsibility
to feed them . If they can't rehome they're PTS , which happens as
its hard to rehome ferals.
Alison


The feral stance is one of the things that really bugs me about the RSPCA.
I'll never forget that episode of Animal Hospital where a kitten was
euthanised because it was feral and it would be 'unkind' to do otherwise -
apparently. I was *fuming* - especially as I had a feral rescue curled up on
the sofa next to me. Good job Marble ended up being taken to a small rescue
charity that struggles to find every penny rather than to the RSPCA, and
makes a darned good job of socialising ferals for homing and where they
can't be, finds suitable homes where they can still be feral (albeit now
neutered/speyed) :-/

The RSPCA is good at publicity, but I now never give funds to it, but will
give what I can to the small shelters who regularly take in RSPCA rejects.

Cheers, helen s

  #172  
Old August 23rd 05, 07:43 AM
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"wafflycat" waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk wrote in message
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The feral stance is one of the things that really bugs me about the RSPCA.
I'll never forget that episode of Animal Hospital where a kitten was
euthanised because it was feral and it would be 'unkind' to do otherwise -
apparently. I was *fuming* - especially as I had a feral rescue curled up
on the sofa next to me. Good job Marble ended up being taken to a small
rescue charity that struggles to find every penny rather than to the
RSPCA, and makes a darned good job of socialising ferals for homing and
where they can't be, finds suitable homes where they can still be feral
(albeit now neutered/speyed) :-/

The RSPCA is good at publicity, but I now never give funds to it, but will
give what I can to the small shelters who regularly take in RSPCA rejects.

Cheers, helen s


D*mn! I crossposted again! Apologies rpca - I must be more vigilant about
*not* replying to posts before my morning caffeine fix.

Hangs head in shame...

Cheers, helen s

  #173  
Old August 23rd 05, 08:13 AM
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On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 07:43:06 +0100, "wafflycat"
waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk wrote:

D*mn! I crossposted again! Apologies rpca - I must be more vigilant about
*not* replying to posts before my morning caffeine fix.

Hangs head in shame...


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Old August 23rd 05, 02:43 PM
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wafflycat wrote:
The feral stance is one of the things that really bugs me about the RSPCA.
I'll never forget that episode of Animal Hospital where a kitten was
euthanised because it was feral and it would be 'unkind' to do otherwise -
apparently. I was *fuming* - especially as I had a feral rescue curled up on
the sofa next to me. Good job Marble ended up being taken to a small rescue
charity that struggles to find every penny rather than to the RSPCA, and
makes a darned good job of socialising ferals for homing and where they
can't be, finds suitable homes where they can still be feral (albeit now
neutered/speyed) :-/

The RSPCA is good at publicity, but I now never give funds to it, but will
give what I can to the small shelters who regularly take in RSPCA rejects.

Cheers, helen s


I understand your anger. Feral cats don't have a chance in this
community either. People trap them all the time and bring them to
Animal Control. We try to do what we can, but about the only chance
they have at a home is if someone asks for barn cats. I know they can
be tamed. But here, there's too many healthy, tame cats already that
are waiting for a home. People won't ever take on a feral. They get PTS
immediately at the municipal shelter. Several years ago I took four of
them for barn cats. I didn't think they would last long, since Mother
Nature is so hard on barn cats, but I figured they'd at least have a
chance. To my surprise, I still have three of them. Even though I feed
them, they are still very wary of me, won't let me too close.

Sherry

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Old August 23rd 05, 03:26 PM
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You're in East London as well? Where?


Walthamstow, where are you?

Bow. Small world!

Lesley

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Old August 23rd 05, 05:31 PM
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I honestly wish I could let my kitty go out and play, but I live in a
city which is definitely not safe for her.

To start, the traffic is insane, I live just outside a highway, too
many cars, going too fast. Secondly, people HATE cats here (I live in
Colombia). The cats that live on the street suffer a lot, people kick
them, give them poison, throw hot water at them, etc. I've rescued 2
kittens so far (one of them died), and I work with friends to find
homes for kittens and ask people to neuter them because if they don't,
we'll have more kittens on the street starving and being treated with
cruelty. Also, the cats that live on the streets here tend to have a
lot of illnesses. Just 2 months ago we had to put to sleep 3 cats in
the shelter because one of them went out and got leucemia and the other
2 caught it, they were very sick and were suffering a lot.

So.. sometimes I feel bad cause she can't go out. She'd prolly have
lots of fun out there, but for her own good I have to keep her indoors.
I try to have enough toys and fun for her here, to compensate the fun
she's not having outside.

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Old August 23rd 05, 07:48 PM
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This makes an interesting read about the differences .
http://www.messybeast.com/indooroutdoor.htm


This is really interesting and informative, thanks.

I think you'll find that more people in the UK are keeping cats
inside (as opposed to inside/outside)and perhaps less cats are kept
inside in North America than you would think from reading forums and
newsgroups.
I believe every situation is different and cats can be contented kept
inside. Kim has daytime outside access if she wants and spends most of
her time in the back garden in the summer and goes out very little in
the winter.
Alison


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Old August 25th 05, 12:44 PM
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wafflycat wrote:
"Alison" wrote in message
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"Alison" wrote in message
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The RSPCA do put some cats to sleep. 35% will include cats that
are ill or not able to be rehomed , also bear in mind that the number
of cats handed over as unwanted are lower than the States .
I don't think the Iver was referring to feral cats. Sarah's not
mentioned which animal rescue societies euthenize them .
AFAIK, feral cats that are trapped by pest control will be PTS by the
pet control itself .
At our RSPCA branch , feral cats will be neutered /spayed and
returned if requested (or rehomed )if someone will take responsibility
to feed them . If they can't rehome they're PTS , which happens as
its hard to rehome ferals.
Alison


The feral stance is one of the things that really bugs me about the RSPCA.
I'll never forget that episode of Animal Hospital where a kitten was
euthanised because it was feral and it would be 'unkind' to do otherwise -
apparently. I was *fuming* - especially as I had a feral rescue curled up on
the sofa next to me. Good job Marble ended up being taken to a small rescue
charity that struggles to find every penny rather than to the RSPCA, and
makes a darned good job of socialising ferals for homing and where they
can't be, finds suitable homes where they can still be feral (albeit now
neutered/speyed) :-/

The RSPCA is good at publicity, but I now never give funds to it, but will
give what I can to the small shelters who regularly take in RSPCA rejects.


I was also fuming. I've had several ferals ()some tamed late) and
tamed several feral kittens. The RSPCA is primarily interested in
publcity and glory. They will restore living skeleton dogs or horses
to health just so they can do a "before and after" (even though the
animals' internal organs must be shot to hell) but the ones I've
encountered don't give a damn about cats. I recall one rescue - the
woman first called the RSPCA about a cat on a roof and they would only
attend if she called the local paper to get a photographer! One of my
former colleagues had her elderly but healthy cat "accidentally" put
down by the RSPCA when they identified it as a starving stray. Another
had a cat destroyed by them because it was an "unhandleable feral" - it
was a timid cat that had been trapped in someone's house and was scared
out of its wits. Saying it was a mistake doesn't bring back someone's
beloved pet.

I will never give money to the RSPCA. I will never take a cat to them
- I'd rather take it to the vet myself. I've had cats that were RSPCA
rejects ("it's too old to get a home"). As far as I can make out they
are only interested in dogs, horses and publicity that shows them in a
positive light (and I've said as much when they send round begging
mailshots). A damning report about them got published some years ago
in either the Guardian or Observer newspaper. Their image and reality
seem to be poles apart.

  #179  
Old August 25th 05, 01:13 PM
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"Alison" wrote in message
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other organisations that do. The RSPCA is not goverment run.


Are there any government run animal welfare organizations in the UK?



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Old August 25th 05, 01:55 PM
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Phil P. wrote:
"Alison" wrote in message
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other organisations that do. The RSPCA is not goverment run.


Are there any government run animal welfare organizations in the UK?


No, there are none.
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