What Do you do? A Poll

Yowie wrote:
*shudder*

The carpet is.... well, I'm sure it could be cut up and used for emergency
rations with the amount of food & drink it contains. I've had it cleaned,
too. Not that it made much visual difference, but the amount of yuckiness
that came out of hte carper after only 5 year sof living here. *Ewwwwwww*

What we really want is a hard surface with floor drains, so we can just hose
it out every other day like they do in a zoo....

Oh, I would like that, too. I don't have carpet, but with two cats who
like their grass, I get pretty fed up with mopping up soppy regurgitated
grass. It's often accompanied by big hairballs, though, so can't stop
giving them their grass.


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Judith Latham wrote:

I work for the Local council in the payroll section (a subject very close
to my heart and have worked there for 32 years. Oh dear that sounds so sad.

Judith, that's not sad at all if you really like it. And it sounds like
you do. Nice to see you post, BTW.

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in article , Marina at
wrote on 1/17/05 10:58 PM:

Judith Latham wrote:

I work for the Local council in the payroll section (a subject very close
to my heart and have worked there for 32 years. Oh dear that sounds so sad.

Judith, that's not sad at all if you really like it. And it sounds like
you do. Nice to see you post, BTW.

I totally second that. Doing something that is important to you for 32 years
is a real accomplishment and a good thing that most of us would envy.

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 08:28:19 +1100, "Yowie"
wrote:

"Ginger-lyn Summer" wrote in message

What is a tim tam???

TimTams are a chocoholic's idea of paradise. Take two chocolate biscuits
(cookies). Slap some chocolate cream in between them. Cover the lot with a
generous amount of chocolate.

TimTam Slam: Nibble off one set of hte diagonally opposite corners. Insert
one corner into Kahlua, Tia Maria, Bailey's or other sweet liquer that would
go with chocolate. Suck the other corner of the timtam as hard as you can.
Once you can taste the liquer, the timtamslam is ready to eat :-)

Overseas Aussies pine for vegemite, timtams, cherry ripes, violet crumbles,
twisties and real beer :-)

Yowie

Or a timtam smoothie - tip the contents of one packet of timtams into
a blender, add vanilla icecream and blend. Add enough milk to make a
smooth-ish texture. A decadent and impossibly rich thing to do.

Tish (who can only cope with 1 or 2 timtams at a time)

Karen Chuplis wrote:

Well, I somewhat disagree that you are not a "real" artist. Being artistic
is not just about being wildly imaginative and experimental (although, I
must admit, normally with my students, I have to push them away from more
realistic art to get them looking at more abstracted work to see it's true
measure). For instance, your natural history montage of Arctic flora and
fauna displays a real artistic eye for composition and balance. In fact, it
reminds me of the Native American school of art before Oscar Howe.

I'd be very interested to see some of these artworks, Karen - do you
know of anything on the web I could look at, or any names I could search
on? I found some Oscar Howe artworks which were very striking indeed.

I suppose I see 'fine art' as in some way more mature than what I do,
because it is several steps removed from anything that exists in
reality, both in the subject matter and in the technique. I guess this
applies to some fine artists (eg. Picasso, Van Gogh, etc), anyway - but
others are either so very realistic that it's the same, but different
(eg. Pre-Raphaelites, Dutch Masters) or so ridiculous that it's
questionable whether it's art or a total rip-off of the onlooker (eg.
any recent winner of the Turner Prize!)

At any rate, don't belittle that you are artistic. Anything that funnels
through your brain and comes out of your core is artistic. Remember the
original definition of art (originating from "ars") is skill. You simply are
not an artist that imbues any kind of metaphysical or philosophical messages
in your work. There is a place for all things. The fact is, if it weren't
for the thyillustrator's ability to spatially change how that frog sits to
get the best advantage for demonstration purposes, some poor photographer
would have to be taking four million angles of shots to get the one that
best gets some author's point across

That's a very interesting viewpoint. I suppose, as you say, if it was
not at all creative, then some poor photographer would be sitting at
this desk instead of me :-) I didn't know about the definition of art
either - useful for future reference!

Thanks for your insights Karen, very interesting....

Deb.
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"He looked a fierce and quarrelsome cat, but claw he never would;
He only bit the ones he loved, because they tasted good." S. Greenfield

Helen Miles wrote:

Ahem....jumping in here as I know both people in question very well.....

(snip)

*embarrassment*

Honestly, I'm really just a copyist, at heart!! My 'early works' when
young consisted entirely of copying Disney cartoon characters :-))
Probably explains why all my animals now have a cheesy grin and only 3
fingers on each hand ;-)))

Deb.
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"He looked a fierce and quarrelsome cat, but claw he never would;
He only bit the ones he loved, because they tasted good." S. Greenfield

Marina wrote:

I don't know; I didn't have any formal artistic education and just
didn't know how to go about it, I guess. It's a good thing I didn't,
because with the current state of my hands, I don't think that's
something I would be able to do any more. That's also why I don't do any
drawing or painting any more. Sometimes I miss it a lot.

That's a real shame Marina. I suppose digital art using a tablet is out
of the question, too?

Deb.
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http://www.scientific-art.com

"He looked a fierce and quarrelsome cat, but claw he never would;
He only bit the ones he loved, because they tasted good." S. Greenfield

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:08:47 GMT, O J wrote:

Lorraine wrote:

I've been lurking here for a couple of weeks and this looks like a good
place to jump in.
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It's always nice to have someone new to share stories with. Here,
they're mostly about kitties, but, as you can tell by this thread,
most anything goes.

Welcome!!!


Thanks, O J and everyone else for the welcome. I'm a bit behind on
newsgroups now, so sorry for the delay of the thanks.

Lorraine

in article , Debbie Wilson at
wrote on 1/18/05 4:04AM:

Karen Chuplis wrote:

Well, I somewhat disagree that you are not a "real" artist. Being artistic
is not just about being wildly imaginative and experimental (although, I
must admit, normally with my students, I have to push them away from more
realistic art to get them looking at more abstracted work to see it's true
measure). For instance, your natural history montage of Arctic flora and
fauna displays a real artistic eye for composition and balance. In fact, it
reminds me of the Native American school of art before Oscar Howe.

I'd be very interested to see some of these artworks, Karen - do you
know of anything on the web I could look at, or any names I could search
on? I found some Oscar Howe artworks which were very striking indeed.

It's hard to find them online but here is a sampling:

http://www3.sdstate.edu/Administrati...llections/Howe
/

Sioux Round Dance is the only example of his early work which is more in the
Sante Fe style before he developed a more abstract technique based on the
traditiona Tahokmu or spider web style. Here is another example of the early
work if you scroll down the page "Dakota Duck Hunt". You can see his later
style beginning to emerge out of the more traditional presentation in it:

http://www.turtletrack.org/Issues02/...2_Thisdate.htm

Still using they paler colors, but the geometric elements are beginning to
assert themselves.

There are some scans at www.oscarhowe.com as well. I have a catalogue with
some lovely plates that I was given in college by my Art History professor
who is the Howe expert. He has just retired to write a book about him. One
of these days, I will own a print.

It's really quite sad how difficult it is to even *find* prints of any of
the prominent Native American artists, or even information.

"Debbie Wilson" wrote in message


(snip)

*embarrassment*////

My job here is done! ;o) :P~~~~~

Helen M


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