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Maybe They Should have Studied Purrs
Yep, they should have studied purrs - they seem to work amazingly well. I'd
rather have this group purr for me than have a church group pray for me. -- Hugs, CatNipped See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ "Nomen Nescio" wrote in message ... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Study fails to show healing power of prayer By Michael Conlon Fri Mar 31, 9:49 AM ET CHICAGO (Reuters) - A study of more than 1,800 patients who underwent heart bypass surgery has failed to show that prayers specially organized for their recovery had any impact, researchers said Thursday. In fact, the study found some of the patients who knew they were being prayed for did worse than others who were only told they might be prayed for -- though those who did the study said they could not explain why. The patients in the study at six U.S. hospitals included 604 who were actually prayed for after being told they might or might not be; another 597 patients who were not prayed for after being told they might or might not be; and a group of 601 who were prayed for and told they would be the subject of such prayer. The praying was done by members of three Christian groups in monasteries and elsewhere -- two Catholic and one Protestant -- who were given written prayers and the first name and initial of the last name of the prayer subjects. The prayers started on the eve of or day of surgery and lasted for two weeks. Among the first group -- who were prayed for but only told they might be -- 52 percent had post-surgical complications compared to 51 percent in the second group, the ones who were not prayed for though told they might be. In the third group, who knew they were being prayed for, 59 percent had complications. After 30 days, however, the death rates and incidence of major complications was about the same across all three groups, said the study published in the American Heart Journal. COMPLICATIONS AFTER SURGERY "Intercessory prayer itself had no effect on whether complications occurred (and) patients who were certain that intercessors would pray for them had a higher rate of complications than patients who were uncertain but did receive intercessory prayer," the study said. There is "no clear explanation" for the latter finding, it added. The study -- called the largest of its kind -- was designed only to try to measure the impact of intercessory prayer on heart surgery patients, an intervention that some earlier reports had showed seemed to be beneficial. "Our study was never intended to address the existence of God or the presence or absence of intelligent design in the universe" or to compare the efficacy of one prayer form over another, said the Rev. Dean Marek, director of chaplain services at the Mayo Clinic, one of the authors. The patients in the study had similar religious profiles with most believing in spiritual healing and almost all also thinking that friends or relatives would be praying for them as well, he said. "One caveat is that with so many individuals receiving prayer from friends and family, as well as personal prayer, it may be impossible to disentangle the effects of study prayer from background prayer," Manoj Jain of Baptist Memorial Hospital, Memphis, Tennessee, another author of the report. The authors said one possible limitation to their study was that those doing the special praying had no connection or acquaintance with the subjects of their prayer, which would not usually be the norm. "Private or family prayer is widely believed to influence recovery from illness, and the results of this study do not challenge this belief," the report concluded. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060331/...lyBHNlYwMxNzAx -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: N/A iQCVAwUBRC4V4JMoscYxZNI5AQH6nwP8CyUNGz25tES9c+0lUl BKLqHHKGMFh4EW 4Vqh2agjjxvQ5joMJCh/WKaFLfEahflaeA3UmZm+FuC10NbSiqGf7ZZF1OsYNnKH S+p94dk4MW2LazMXJnasqwd+qun4ph66oltXFHCBxLSOPVPa/YG1FAZLgADtsJ2p e+WGYuX9PhQ= =sdas -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Maybe They Should have Studied Purrs
"Nomen Nescio" wrote in message
... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- From: "CatNipped" Yep, they should have studied purrs - they seem to work amazingly well. I'd rather have this group purr for me than have a church group pray for me. -- Hugs, CatNipped That's got to be one of the dumbest "studies" I've ever heard about. At a cost of $2 1/2 mil. A bunch of strangers chanting crap for the benefit of someone whose full name isn't even known. I gotta think God was either disgusted by it, or was laughing his ass off. "Ok, I'm hearing a prayer for John D. Which John D. are these clowns babbling about. Medammit, don't they know how many f**kin' John D.s I know." And why no Rabbi. Maybe Hebrew prayers work better. Or (gasp) Muslim. Maybe they should have tried having Muslims praying for Jews. I'd bet that would get God's attention. And it was just plain rude to leave Satan out of it. "Excuse me, sir, but we're doing a study on the healing effects of prayer and have arranged to have a group of devil worshipers pray for your recovery"...."Uh, thanks, but I already sacrificed a goat before coming to the hospital." Of course, there's Voodoo. How can anyone be expected to recover from surgery if nobody dances around the bed with a live chicken. But what if the patient was an atheist? I suppose it wouldn't matter much if God's the happy, "Make love, not war", God of the New Testament. But what if He's the angry, vengeful, "F**k you all", God of the Old Testament?.... Some surgeon's gonna get a nasty case of "crotch itch" in the middle of the operation. So many unconstrained variables that it's a stretch to even call it a "study". ROTFLMAO! Since the outcome was that prayer didn't work I'm assuming this *wasn't* conducted by right-wing republicans*. As you say, if they would have done a study on *which* religion's prayers worked I might have agreed to spending my tax dollars to show that they are *all* equally ineffective. Like I said, give me purrs every time!!! * I think we're about this | | far away from our democracy becoming a theocracy already! -- Hugs, CatNipped See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: N/A iQCVAwUBRC+X6pMoscYxZNI5AQGmZwQAiGCI3F/i52d7LnhlrqN952c4nsypK5wX Y3QiJSOPiX7DCXCmMOeOAF0IzeG6VHSuGDUoMyP2IDpiXmXzPy MSU/g5Lx9pYj8z z85JRkeg5PWiOEUbHtNuSW2m2Rp2dIg6Qbzf0P15rlza4UIFXf XT2ke4/te2cFdY lKNWk7k6XIE= =clim -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Maybe They Should have Studied Purrs
"CatNipped" wrote in message ... Yep, they should have studied purrs - they seem to work amazingly well. I'd rather have this group purr for me than have a church group pray for me. I was told last year, by doctors that I would die, maybe quite soon. I was purred for and I'm still here. To be fair, though, I also had laying on of hands and blessings from Morman priests. I don't know which worked. Something did. So I'm still able to torment you all with my mails. Tweed just joking |
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Maybe They Should have Studied Purrs
Christina Websell wrote:
"CatNipped" wrote in message ... Yep, they should have studied purrs - they seem to work amazingly well. I'd rather have this group purr for me than have a church group pray for me. I was told last year, by doctors that I would die, maybe quite soon. I was purred for and I'm still here. To be fair, though, I also had laying on of hands and blessings from Morman priests. I don't know which worked. Something did. So I'm still able to torment you all with my mails. Tweed just joking My money's on the purrs. :-) -- Adrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk |
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