Cinders meets an alien

O J wrote:

Since I looked it up, I now know that 'CPAP' stands for Continuous
Positive Airway Pressure. Mine *is* a Bi-PAP machine. It has
separate pressure settings for breathing in and breathing out and an
option to set a minimum breathing rate.

During my sleep study, they tried both a CPAP and a Bi-PAP on me to see
which would work best. I had a terrible time with the Bi-PAP - it was
"breathing" faster than I did. So it would start trying to force air into
my nose before I was finished exhaling the previous breath. Naturally,
this disturbed my sleep quite a bit.

Of course, this was in a sleep clinic with technicians at the controls.
When you have your own Bi-PAP, can you set the pace of the breathing to
match your own?

Joyce

O J wrote:

Since I looked it up, I now know that 'CPAP' stands for Continuous
Positive Airway Pressure. Mine *is* a Bi-PAP machine. It has
separate pressure settings for breathing in and breathing out and an
option to set a minimum breathing rate.

During my sleep study, they tried both a CPAP and a Bi-PAP on me to see
which would work best. I had a terrible time with the Bi-PAP - it was
"breathing" faster than I did. So it would start trying to force air into
my nose before I was finished exhaling the previous breath. Naturally,
this disturbed my sleep quite a bit.

Of course, this was in a sleep clinic with technicians at the controls.
When you have your own Bi-PAP, can you set the pace of the breathing to
match your own?

Joyce

In article ,
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Sep, Howard Berkowitz wrote:

Sounds like you are describing at least a BiPAP machine, and possibly a
demand ventilators. Standard CPAPs don;t try to set breathing.

Since I looked it up, I now know that 'CPAP' stands for Continuous
Positive Airway Pressure. Mine *is* a Bi-PAP machine. It has
separate pressure settings for breathing in and breathing out and an
option to set a minimum breathing rate. You're the first person I've
met in the health care field who seemed to know the difference. My
compliments and thanks for the heads-up. Everyone else seems to use
the term CPAP as a catch-all word for any pressure system to prevent
apnea.

Regards and Purrs,
O J

If it has the option to force a breathing rate, it's more than a usual
BiPAP and getting close to a hospital-grade ventilator. A ventilator has
to be fairly intelligent to know when to force a breath for a
potentially conscious patient - that can be quite unpleasant unless you
are trained to do it. There are a great number of knobs on a hospital
ventilator, but the basics would be a timer, coupled with either a
pressure or volume sensor.

It sounds as if it would be useful to get a respiratory therapist or
chest physician to go over your treatment plan in general.

In article ,
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Sep, Howard Berkowitz wrote:

Sounds like you are describing at least a BiPAP machine, and possibly a
demand ventilators. Standard CPAPs don;t try to set breathing.

Since I looked it up, I now know that 'CPAP' stands for Continuous
Positive Airway Pressure. Mine *is* a Bi-PAP machine. It has
separate pressure settings for breathing in and breathing out and an
option to set a minimum breathing rate. You're the first person I've
met in the health care field who seemed to know the difference. My
compliments and thanks for the heads-up. Everyone else seems to use
the term CPAP as a catch-all word for any pressure system to prevent
apnea.

Regards and Purrs,
O J

If it has the option to force a breathing rate, it's more than a usual
BiPAP and getting close to a hospital-grade ventilator. A ventilator has
to be fairly intelligent to know when to force a breath for a
potentially conscious patient - that can be quite unpleasant unless you
are trained to do it. There are a great number of knobs on a hospital
ventilator, but the basics would be a timer, coupled with either a
pressure or volume sensor.

It sounds as if it would be useful to get a respiratory therapist or
chest physician to go over your treatment plan in general.

In article ,
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Sep, Howard Berkowitz wrote:

Sounds like you are describing at least a BiPAP machine, and possibly a
demand ventilators. Standard CPAPs don;t try to set breathing.

Since I looked it up, I now know that 'CPAP' stands for Continuous
Positive Airway Pressure. Mine *is* a Bi-PAP machine. It has
separate pressure settings for breathing in and breathing out and an
option to set a minimum breathing rate. You're the first person I've
met in the health care field who seemed to know the difference. My
compliments and thanks for the heads-up. Everyone else seems to use
the term CPAP as a catch-all word for any pressure system to prevent
apnea.

Regards and Purrs,
O J

If it has the option to force a breathing rate, it's more than a usual
BiPAP and getting close to a hospital-grade ventilator. A ventilator has
to be fairly intelligent to know when to force a breath for a
potentially conscious patient - that can be quite unpleasant unless you
are trained to do it. There are a great number of knobs on a hospital
ventilator, but the basics would be a timer, coupled with either a
pressure or volume sensor.

It sounds as if it would be useful to get a respiratory therapist or
chest physician to go over your treatment plan in general.

In article ,
wrote:

O J wrote:

Since I looked it up, I now know that 'CPAP' stands for Continuous
Positive Airway Pressure. Mine *is* a Bi-PAP machine. It has
separate pressure settings for breathing in and breathing out and an
option to set a minimum breathing rate.

During my sleep study, they tried both a CPAP and a Bi-PAP on me to see
which would work best. I had a terrible time with the Bi-PAP - it was
"breathing" faster than I did. So it would start trying to force air into
my nose before I was finished exhaling the previous breath. Naturally,
this disturbed my sleep quite a bit.

Of course, this was in a sleep clinic with technicians at the controls.
When you have your own Bi-PAP, can you set the pace of the breathing to
match your own?

Joyce

Kind of two answers. First, you can train yourself to work with forced
air, as that's a method used for military high-performance pilots --
they get forced air and have to consciously exhale.

I can't speak to BiPAP machines. The sort of ventilator used in ICU
definitely can be set to the physiological response of the patient --
not a strict timer as much as pressure or volume in the system. A
forced rate generally is only used with comatose patients. When you
start forcing the rate, additional, highly specialized variables come
into play. Ventilator orders are not simple to write.

In article ,
wrote:

O J wrote:

Since I looked it up, I now know that 'CPAP' stands for Continuous
Positive Airway Pressure. Mine *is* a Bi-PAP machine. It has
separate pressure settings for breathing in and breathing out and an
option to set a minimum breathing rate.

During my sleep study, they tried both a CPAP and a Bi-PAP on me to see
which would work best. I had a terrible time with the Bi-PAP - it was
"breathing" faster than I did. So it would start trying to force air into
my nose before I was finished exhaling the previous breath. Naturally,
this disturbed my sleep quite a bit.

Of course, this was in a sleep clinic with technicians at the controls.
When you have your own Bi-PAP, can you set the pace of the breathing to
match your own?

Joyce

Kind of two answers. First, you can train yourself to work with forced
air, as that's a method used for military high-performance pilots --
they get forced air and have to consciously exhale.

I can't speak to BiPAP machines. The sort of ventilator used in ICU
definitely can be set to the physiological response of the patient --
not a strict timer as much as pressure or volume in the system. A
forced rate generally is only used with comatose patients. When you
start forcing the rate, additional, highly specialized variables come
into play. Ventilator orders are not simple to write.

In article ,
wrote:

O J wrote:

Since I looked it up, I now know that 'CPAP' stands for Continuous
Positive Airway Pressure. Mine *is* a Bi-PAP machine. It has
separate pressure settings for breathing in and breathing out and an
option to set a minimum breathing rate.

During my sleep study, they tried both a CPAP and a Bi-PAP on me to see
which would work best. I had a terrible time with the Bi-PAP - it was
"breathing" faster than I did. So it would start trying to force air into
my nose before I was finished exhaling the previous breath. Naturally,
this disturbed my sleep quite a bit.

Of course, this was in a sleep clinic with technicians at the controls.
When you have your own Bi-PAP, can you set the pace of the breathing to
match your own?

Joyce

Kind of two answers. First, you can train yourself to work with forced
air, as that's a method used for military high-performance pilots --
they get forced air and have to consciously exhale.

I can't speak to BiPAP machines. The sort of ventilator used in ICU
definitely can be set to the physiological response of the patient --
not a strict timer as much as pressure or volume in the system. A
forced rate generally is only used with comatose patients. When you
start forcing the rate, additional, highly specialized variables come
into play. Ventilator orders are not simple to write.

John F. Eldredge wrote in message . ..
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I was recently diagnosed with sleep apnea. This is a medical
condition where you periodically stop breathing. There are several
possible causes, but, in my case, I apparently have an inherited
tendency for my windpipe to "relax" too thoroughly when I am asleep,
collapsing all of the way shut. The result is that I cycle between
normal breathing, not breathing, and rapid breathing (forcing the
windpipe open again). This doesn't happen when I am awake.


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Purrs for peaceful sleep for you and Cinders!
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Krista

John F. Eldredge wrote in message . ..
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I was recently diagnosed with sleep apnea. This is a medical
condition where you periodically stop breathing. There are several
possible causes, but, in my case, I apparently have an inherited
tendency for my windpipe to "relax" too thoroughly when I am asleep,
collapsing all of the way shut. The result is that I cycle between
normal breathing, not breathing, and rapid breathing (forcing the
windpipe open again). This doesn't happen when I am awake.


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Purrs for peaceful sleep for you and Cinders!
------
Krista