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Might as well just buy the cheap stuff.
On Thu 22 Mar 2007 08:11:35p, Lynne wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav om: Now that I know Innova Evo is a Menu Food product, I'm not going to serve anymore wet until I'm absolutely certain it's safe. How did I miss this? It is?? -- Cheryl |
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Might as well just buy the cheap stuff.
on Fri, 23 Mar 2007 01:17:40 GMT, Cheryl
wrote: Now that I know Innova Evo is a Menu Food product, I'm not going to serve anymore wet until I'm absolutely certain it's safe. How did I miss this? It is?? Here you go: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.p.../2f216915b762a 1f5 -- Lynne |
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Might as well just buy the cheap stuff.
On 22 Mar 2007 10:32:40 -0700, Lis wrote:
On Mar 21, 2:39 pm, Patty wrote: On 20 Mar 2007 12:55:39 -0700, Lis wrote: This makes no sense. Pressuring them to drop Menu NOW, sure; issuing a commercial "death penalty" for having trusted a supplier who has previously always been reliable is nuts. And unless you're prepared to feed your cat whole ground mouse, you're going to have a tough time putting together a diet for her that's as balanced and complete as a premium commercial food. Lis I've always wondered about this. My Rusty was a born hunter, having been descended from generations of farm cats, and he always preferred what he caught to any canned or bagged food on the market. That said, he is now 16, a wee bit slow on his feet so he doesn't catch what he hunts so much anymore (when he does hunt). Anyhow, until this point in time, he has been the healthiest of cats even though his diet consisted more of wildlife than any commercial food product. So, are there better nutrients in wildlife than say, grocery store chicken? Rusty has never had any problems with hairballs either, I don't recall him ever throwing any up, and he's a domestic long hair. I read once that the rougage the big wild cats get from eating bones and such, takes care of their need for any type of hairball treatment. Oh, and he always liked the mice heads best. Patty When Rusty eats a mouse, he eats the whole mouse--a complete and balanced meal for a cat. Actually, no. He always ate the head and left the body for me. I would find headless bodies on the sidewalk along side the house. When you feed him grocery store chicken, you feed him parts. Not the whole thing, not the parts humans find disgusting, and not the contents of the chicken's stomach when it died. You can cook for you cat, but you need to remember that your intincts about what's nutritious (and tasty and appetizing, but especially nutritious) are wrong, because cats are the only domestic animal that's an obligate carnivore. There ARE some good cookbooks out there that can give you good guidance, but it's a lot of work, and most people simply aren't willing to both do all the work, and ignore their instincts in the cause of doing it right. (I'd post the titles of those cookbooks if I still had any of them; sorry!) Just cooking chicken for your cat, even including organ meats, is simply not as good as a well-tested, premium commercial food, that's been carefully developed to both provide a healthy diet for the cat, AND not be too disgusting-smelling when opened for people to buy it a second time. (Really. Every so often some company gets as far as limited market-testing of whole ground mouse. Even true cat lovers don't open that second can.) Lis Thanks, Lis. That makes sense. Patty |
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Might as well just buy the cheap stuff.
On 22 Mar 2007 13:02:03 -0700, Sherry wrote:
On Mar 21, 1:39 pm, Patty wrote: Oh, and he always liked the mice heads best. Patty Well, the way I understand it, mouse brains are "nutritious and delicious." IIRC, that's the main source of taurine. Sherry Thanks, Sherry. Guess that's why he liked them best. Patty |
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Might as well just buy the cheap stuff.
on Fri, 23 Mar 2007 02:45:50 GMT, Patty wrote:
Actually, no. He always ate the head and left the body for me. I would find headless bodies on the sidewalk along side the house. Ah, memories... I never used to like cats AT ALL until I moved into a very cool house in college my junior year, with 7 roommates. The girl whose room I moved into left 2 of her cats behind for 3 months while she travelled abroad. I was disintereted in them until her very large male, a tuxedo cat named Micah, took a liking to me. He was such an awesome cat. I was always touched when he left me headless mice as gifts (I found the first by sitting on it!). When Patti came back and took her cats, I missed Micah so much that I went out and got my first kitten. Lamonte, my kitten, preferred to hunt one of my roommates' fish when he was little, which didn't please him (the roommate) at all. Come to think of it, not long after we brought Rudy home, he ate my daughter's beta fish, who didn't appreciate it AT ALL when I couldn't stop laughing. -- Lynne |
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Might as well just buy the cheap stuff.
On Mar 22, 3:18 pm, Lynne wrote:
on Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:04:06 GMT, "Sherry" wrote: Well, there's a lot more to it than hacking up raw meat and throwing to the cats. Feeding a raw diet *can* be done right, but just like commercial cat food, there's a formula to follow. It takes a lot of dedication to do it right. Bacteria isn't an issue if safe-handling guidelines are followed. I wouldn't ever do it. It's a lot of work, and very expensive. I'd buy canned mice for my cats (heck, I buy dead frozen mice for the snake), but I'll bet chasing them down and killing them is half the fun of consuming them. I imagine that if some bold company were to can mice, they'd still have to do something to it in order to make it more appealing to kitties. -- Lynne Oh, I'd probably try it too. I bought canned from petfooddirect that was made out of rabbit meat, thinking OF COURSE they would love it. Heh. They turned their noses up at it. This is all part of trying to get Boots to eat *anything*...she is picky, picky and a tiny little thing. But I bet I'll be much more careful about indiscriminate purchases of anything-that-looks-like-Boots-might-eat-it. After this recall fiasco. I'll probably be much more likely to stick to their regular brand. Sherry |
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Might as well just buy the cheap stuff.
"Lynne" wrote in message
m... on Fri, 23 Mar 2007 00:00:06 GMT, "Gail Futoran" wrote: Serious question about canned food: I'd changed from 100% dry to at least one daily feeding of canned (two daily feddings for the kittens until they reach about 9 months) after starting to read this newsgroup several years ago. None of the cats (except Melosa) will eat much of the canned, preferring dry, but I've persisted. Now I'm wondering if I should forget the canned until this whole recall business is concluded. Anyone have any thoughts on that? It may be paranoia on both our parts, but I've had the same thoughts. Now that I know Innova Evo is a Menu Food product, I'm not going to serve anymore wet until I'm absolutely certain it's safe. I've only used 1 can out of the last case I purchased, so I really don't have a high level of comfort based on any "well it hasn't hurt them yet" experiences... -- Lynne My cats never eat that much of the canned, preferring the dry food, so I'll continue to offer a variety of different manufacturers and different flavors. I figure that's reasonably safe. This morning Marcus, my only male cat, followed me into the kitchen squeaking (he doesn't meow). So I put down some SD kitten canned for him and Gabby, the other kitten, and they ate more than usual. I usually feed them at night, so I guess I'm going to have to switch to a morning feed. I am ruled by my cats. ::sigh:: Gail F. |
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Might as well just buy the cheap stuff.
on Fri, 23 Mar 2007 18:36:04 GMT, "Gail Futoran"
wrote: I am ruled by my cats. ::sigh:: Well then all is right in your universe. -- Lynne |
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