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Old June 28th 05, 06:19 PM
Mary
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"Wendy" wrote in message
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"-L." wrote in message
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Philip wrote:

Each and every animal is evaluated every ten days based on either its
arrival date or the date the animal was put in a public viewing cage.

In
order to "pass inspection" the animal must appear / be healthy, be
cordial,
and not too old. Those are the basic criteria for getting another ten
day
stay in Hotel California.


Ok, what that tells me is that every 10 days the cat may or may not get
a reprieve from being on the kill list. They cull every day, and so
have to choose who gets culled. So I would ascertain that he *will* be
at risk of being killed, depending on what other animals he is "up
against". They may also have a limit on how long they keep any one
animal. That limit depends on a lot of factors - the primary one being
how full the shelter is.

-L.


The problem for a boy like Conan is that, although he is a very pretty

cat,
he's an adult in a shelter during kitten season and he's male. Unless

people
in CA are totally different that those in this part of the world, male

cats
will (in general) sit longer than females. His good looks are only going

to
get him so far. How long can he spend in the cage before getting

depressed?
Then he won't show as well and that will shorten his 'shelf life' His best
bet this time of year is someone coming to the shelter specifically

looking
for an adult.


You know, I have never thought about it, but when I adopted Cheeks it
was November and there were no kittens at all. I was not looking for
a kitten--but that just never occurred to me before. When is prime
kitten season?


  #32  
Old June 28th 05, 06:21 PM
-L.
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Mary wrote:
"-L." wrote in message
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Wendy wrote:
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Well I know Californians are different but didn't know if the preference

for
female cats held true there or not.


not in my experience. I have not seen a sex preference.


At the grooming place where you worked?


I didn't work at a "grooming place". Grooming was part of my job as a
vet tech at a high-volume feline specialty hospital. But you already
know this since you stalk me. I was really good at it, so also
supervised others. I also ran the ward - making sure the admitted cats
were well cared-for and nursed properly. I supervised 6 or 7 people
most of the time. This was the only time I had a paid position in the
veterinary field and I did it for fun and extra pocket money. I am
retired from my "real" career as a plant molecular biologist. I
retired in 1999 at the age of 36 - and was able to do so mainly because
of wise investments. But again, you know this already, as you stalk
me.


Or when was
the last time you worked in rescue?


Currently do as a volunteer.

At a shelter?


The last shelter I worked at (again, as a violunteer) was the Silicon
Valley Humane Society in 2002.

Or anywhere
that would even begin to qualify you to think that your "experience"
is relevant?


My experience is extremely relevant, as any long-time poster to this
forum can tell you. I have been in "the field" for 17+ years helping
animals - not just cats.

OTOH, I highly suspect you don't even know where your local shelter is.
Let me tell you - it's the Lake County Animal shelter in Garner, NC.
I know because I used to volunteer there, as well.

-L.

  #33  
Old June 28th 05, 06:22 PM
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"-L." wrote in message
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Wendy wrote:
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Well I know Californians are different but didn't know if the preference
for
female cats held true there or not.


not in my experience. I have not seen a sex preference.


There seem to be a lot of people here
who fear males will start spraying all over their house and other not so
endearing behavior that is attributed to male cats. It doesn't seem to
sink
in that male cats aren't the only ones who can spray and that neutering
will
take care of most of their concerns sigh so the boys tend to sit a
little
longer than the girls in my experience at least. All of last summer's
kittens we still had in the winter were boys.


I have seen more of a color preference than anything else. Black cats
die in droves. :*(

-L.


Pigment-ism. Emphasis on the first three letters. I recall the paper
stating black cats would not be adopted out during Halloween week and one
other pagan holiday due to ritual sacrificing. Awful people.


  #34  
Old June 28th 05, 06:25 PM
-L.
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Mary wrote:

You know, I have never thought about it, but when I adopted Cheeks it
was November and there were no kittens at all. I was not looking for
a kitten--but that just never occurred to me before. When is prime
kitten season?


There are two kitten seasons - Spring and Fall. The prime months are
May - June and August - September. But it depends on what area of the
country you live in - it is affected by weather, among other factors.

Most rescue groups consider April through October to be "kitten
season".

-L.

  #35  
Old June 28th 05, 06:33 PM
Mary
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"-L." wrote in message
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Mary wrote:
"-L." wrote in message
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Wendy wrote:
snip

Well I know Californians are different but didn't know if the

preference
for
female cats held true there or not.

not in my experience. I have not seen a sex preference.


At the grooming place where you worked?


I didn't work at a "grooming place". Grooming was part of my job as a
vet tech at a high-volume feline specialty hospital. But you already
know this since you stalk me.


Do I stalk you? How could I? I have never even googles you?
Do you define "stalking" as my mentioning that your husband's name
is Will and your son's name is Jonathan? No, that can't be stalking,
because you put this information out there, online. The nice mommy
who emailed me sent tinyurls.

So, since stalking is a crime, and I have not committed anything
like this, you have just libeled me.

I would love to be a fly on the wall when Jonathan finds
your archived posts defending an old cracker like Philip
who is likely as racist as he is sexist. Particularly when
the reasons you defend him are only that he cannot
stand me--when my only crime has been getting upset
that he threw away a lovely cat after leading him to think
he had a home--all because he had a bad cold.

You are the Lyn who is in Oregon, right? The self-proclaimed
"Socialist?" The last Socialist in the world, aren't you now?
The same Lyn who apparently spills her guts about everything
from her reproductive problems to her facist pro-censorship
activities all over Usenet in groups like alt.support.infertility?
And alt.support.infertility.parenting? The Lyn who used to live
in Indiana, isn't it?


I was really good at it, so also
supervised others. I also ran the ward - making sure the admitted cats
were well cared-for and nursed properly. I supervised 6 or 7 people
most of the time. This was the only time I had a paid position in the
veterinary field and I did it for fun and extra pocket money.


But you did not say WHEN and for how LONG you did this?
Because my original question was, what is the source of your
vast knowledge on whether there is a bias toward cats of
one sex or another in California shelters, remember?

I am
retired from my "real" career as a plant molecular biologist. I
retired in 1999 at the age of 36 - and was able to do so mainly because
of wise investments. But again, you know this already, as you stalk
me.


There you go again. Risky, risky business for a little housewife
and Mommy to engage in.

Try to remember your lesson, Lynnie. You can learn.

I know that you can.


  #36  
Old June 28th 05, 07:21 PM
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"Mary" wrote in message ...

"-L." wrote in message
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Mary wrote:
"-L." wrote in message
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Wendy wrote:
snip

Well I know Californians are different but didn't know if the

preference
for
female cats held true there or not.

not in my experience. I have not seen a sex preference.

At the grooming place where you worked?


I didn't work at a "grooming place". Grooming was part of my job as a
vet tech at a high-volume feline specialty hospital. But you already
know this since you stalk me.


Do I stalk you? How could I? I have never even googles you?
Do you define "stalking" as my mentioning that your husband's name
is Will and your son's name is Jonathan? No, that can't be stalking,
because you put this information out there, online. The nice mommy
who emailed me sent tinyurls.

So, since stalking is a crime, and I have not committed anything
like this, you have just libeled me.

I would love to be a fly on the wall when Jonathan finds
your archived posts defending an old cracker like Philip
who is likely as racist as he is sexist. Particularly when
the reasons you defend him are only that he cannot
stand me--when my only crime has been getting upset
that he threw away a lovely cat after leading him to think
he had a home--all because he had a bad cold.


Well if you want to charge Lyn with libel, then I can charge you with the
same. Gee ... aren't you the one to spread joy and cheer amoung the ranks.





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Old June 28th 05, 07:29 PM
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Jess A via CatKB.com wrote:

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  #38  
Old June 28th 05, 07:36 PM
Mary
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"Philip" wrote in message
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"Mary" wrote in message

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"-L." wrote in message
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Mary wrote:
"-L." wrote in message
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Wendy wrote:
snip

Well I know Californians are different but didn't know if the

preference
for
female cats held true there or not.

not in my experience. I have not seen a sex preference.

At the grooming place where you worked?

I didn't work at a "grooming place". Grooming was part of my job as a
vet tech at a high-volume feline specialty hospital. But you already
know this since you stalk me.


Do I stalk you? How could I? I have never even googles you?
Do you define "stalking" as my mentioning that your husband's name
is Will and your son's name is Jonathan? No, that can't be stalking,
because you put this information out there, online. The nice mommy
who emailed me sent tinyurls.

So, since stalking is a crime, and I have not committed anything
like this, you have just libeled me.

I would love to be a fly on the wall when Jonathan finds
your archived posts defending an old cracker like Philip
who is likely as racist as he is sexist. Particularly when
the reasons you defend him are only that he cannot
stand me--when my only crime has been getting upset
that he threw away a lovely cat after leading him to think
he had a home--all because he had a bad cold.


Well if you want to charge Lyn with libel, then I can charge you with the
same. Gee ... aren't you the one to spread joy and cheer amoung the

ranks.

Reading comprehension, Philip. Nobody said anythng about charging
anyone with anything. And I have not libeled you because it is not
libel when it is TRUE. But you know that.

Did you get the PayPal yet?


  #39  
Old June 28th 05, 07:49 PM
Wendy
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"-L." wrote in message
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Wendy wrote:
snip

Well I know Californians are different but didn't know if the preference
for
female cats held true there or not.


not in my experience. I have not seen a sex preference.


There seem to be a lot of people here
who fear males will start spraying all over their house and other not so
endearing behavior that is attributed to male cats. It doesn't seem to
sink
in that male cats aren't the only ones who can spray and that neutering
will
take care of most of their concerns sigh so the boys tend to sit a
little
longer than the girls in my experience at least. All of last summer's
kittens we still had in the winter were boys.


I have seen more of a color preference than anything else. Black cats
die in droves. :*(

-L.


That's the same here except ours don't die they just take a reallllllly long
time to find a home for. We had one sweet solid black boy for over a year
but we finally got him a really great home. )


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Old June 28th 05, 07:58 PM
Wendy
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"Mary" wrote in message
...

"Wendy" wrote in message
...

"-L." wrote in message
ups.com...


Philip wrote:

Each and every animal is evaluated every ten days based on either its
arrival date or the date the animal was put in a public viewing cage.

In
order to "pass inspection" the animal must appear / be healthy, be
cordial,
and not too old. Those are the basic criteria for getting another ten
day
stay in Hotel California.

Ok, what that tells me is that every 10 days the cat may or may not get
a reprieve from being on the kill list. They cull every day, and so
have to choose who gets culled. So I would ascertain that he *will* be
at risk of being killed, depending on what other animals he is "up
against". They may also have a limit on how long they keep any one
animal. That limit depends on a lot of factors - the primary one being
how full the shelter is.

-L.


The problem for a boy like Conan is that, although he is a very pretty

cat,
he's an adult in a shelter during kitten season and he's male. Unless

people
in CA are totally different that those in this part of the world, male

cats
will (in general) sit longer than females. His good looks are only going

to
get him so far. How long can he spend in the cage before getting

depressed?
Then he won't show as well and that will shorten his 'shelf life' His
best
bet this time of year is someone coming to the shelter specifically

looking
for an adult.


You know, I have never thought about it, but when I adopted Cheeks it
was November and there were no kittens at all. I was not looking for
a kitten--but that just never occurred to me before. When is prime
kitten season?


Pretty much the warm months for the majority. My last foster kitten last
fall was probably born the end of September early October and we started
seeing early litters this year in February. We had a mild early winter
thought so that's probably why we were seeing kittens that early. We had a
lot of URI with the early ones and lost litters in spite of getting mom
inside before she delivered. Just not soon enough I guess.


 




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