Bg dead rat

On 9/14/2013 5:52 PM, Christina Websell wrote:
"Judith Latham" wrote in message
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Still here. I though the foxes would have had it by now. I'll have
to dispose of it soon.

Bet now:. 1. I will put the dead rat in the trash bin. 2. I got fed
up with what the neighbours did and will throw it over into their
garden


Tweed

~~~~~~~~ Please bury it if you think there is any chance at all that
it has been poisoned. If you do anything else--trashbin,
neighbours' yard, or even leave it where it is--you take the risk
that another animal will eat it and be poisoned.

MaryL

You're not entering into the spirit of this, do you trust me what to
do or not? Could I throw it over in a fit of revenge? I might like to
do that, since they cost me 1400 GBP to get my car out which I could
ill afford and I'd be delighted for them to see a dead rat on their
pristine no leaf will drop here yard. So, what do you think I might do?

Tweed

~~~~~~~~ No, I did not think you would throw it over in a fit of
revenge. Did you notice that I also included leaving it in your own
yard or tossing it in the trash as part of my message? You talked
earlier about the possibility of someone putting out poison to
protect his/her chickens, so I had that in mind with my message. I
would much rather bury a suspicious carcass than take any chances at
all. My sister and brother-in-law once had the experience of a bad
suddenly plummeting to the ground. It was struggling and foaming at
the mouth and was close to a school. They were not willing to take
any risk with the possibility of rabies under those circumstances. My
brother-in-law killed the bat and buried. They did report it to
authorities but had done what they could to protect children and
animals. I know you do not have rabies in the UK, so this is just an
example of what I had in mind.

MaryL




I m merely asking what you think I might do i.e. how well do you all
think you know me? Do I have it in me to toss the rat over the fence or
not? Yes, I certainly have but will I?

Tweed

I don't think you will, except in your day dreams.

Judith

You are right. I won't bury it in my organic garden so the poison from its
body can leach into my soil as it rots. And as much as would like to
surprise my nasty neighbours, well, it's not the right thing to do, is it?
It's in the dustbin where it will be taken to a landfill site that is
already contaminated.

Tweed
P.S my brother thought I should throw it over the fence after they
deliberately parked in front of my house at the same moment Claire and I
arrived when I was visiting Boyfie, I could only hop on my zimmer frame at
the time. So I had to hop much further.
All because of a stupid wall.
Anyway, Karma will get them, I am sure of that. They seem to have an awful
lot of trouble with their drains and toilet recently, there's often a van
there unblocking them - maybe because they are are full of


ROFLMAO! Thanks for that!

Jill

"Bastette" wrote in message
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MaryL wrote:



"Christina Websell" wrote in message
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Still here. I though the foxes would have had it by now.
I'll have to dispose of it soon.

Bet now:.
1. I will put the dead rat in the trash bin.
2. I got fed up with what the neighbours did and will throw it over
into
their garden


Tweed

~~~~~~~~
Please bury it if you think there is any chance at all that it has been
poisoned. If you do anything else--trashbin, neighbours' yard, or even
leave it where it is--you take the risk that another animal will eat it
and
be poisoned.

It's been a few days, hasn't it? Cats don't eat carrion, so I don't think
we have to worry about them getting poisoned at this point.

But I'm pretty sure Tweed is joking - just indulging a fantasy. I can
certainly understand that! I'm sure she'll bury it, and save a vulture.

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See upthread. I'm not going to bury a poisoned rat in my organic garden, no
way, it goes to landfill via my black bin.
Black bins are for things that you cannot recycle, I hardly have anything in
it as I burn most things. Green bins are for glass, plastic, paper,
cardboard, tins etc for recycling.
These bins are free.
My brown bin is not free. That's for garden stuff. It cost 17/year.
Most councils do not charge for this. Mine does and composts it and then
charges us to buy it back.

It's no fantasy about the rat, it was a moral dilemma (sp) for me.
I so wanted to throw it over. But in the end I didn't want to be as bad as
they were.

Tweed

"Christina Websell" wrote in message
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I won't bury it in my organic garden so the poison from its
body can leach into my soil as it rots. And as much as would like to
surprise my nasty neighbours, well, it's not the right thing to do, is it?
It's in the dustbin where it will be taken to a landfill site that is
already contaminated.

Tweed

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I would not bury an animal--poison or not--in my garden, either. When I
suggested burying it, I did not have your garden in mind. I admit that I
don't know what type of property you have, but I assumed that you had some
lawn or other area with trees and shrubs that would be separate from your
garden. Prior to Holly, I buried all of my cats in the yard and planted a
tree or shrub at their heads. They certainly did not have the problem of
being poisoned, but I would not have buried even my beloved pets in a garden
where I was raising produce. I had Holly cremated and will scatter her
ashes around a Mahonia holly. It has the symbolism of the name ("Holly" and
"holly"). More important, it is planted right outside the sunroom window
where Holly had a favorite soft spot to lounge.

MaryL

"MaryL" wrote in message
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"Christina Websell" wrote in message
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I won't bury it in my organic garden so the poison from its
body can leach into my soil as it rots. And as much as would like to
surprise my nasty neighbours, well, it's not the right thing to do, is it?
It's in the dustbin where it will be taken to a landfill site that is
already contaminated.

Tweed

~~~~~
I would not bury an animal--poison or not--in my garden, either. When I
suggested burying it, I did not have your garden in mind. I admit that I
don't know what type of property you have, but I assumed that you had some
lawn or other area with trees and shrubs that would be separate from your
garden.

Once again we are separated by a common language. The term "garden" here
means all the land around your house that you grow things in or even have
paved for your car to park on. It's all garden.
The term "yard" here refers to to the little bit of outside space small
terraced houses sometimes have that is paved over.
Anyway, I'm not burying it anywhere on my land;-)
I have buried some of my euthanized dogs here but they have to be 4 feet
down at least because of the drugs used, and I'm certainly not going to get
someone in to dig a big hole for a rat.

Tweed





Prior to Holly, I buried all of my cats in the yard and planted a
tree or shrub at their heads. They certainly did not have the problem of
being poisoned, but I would not have buried even my beloved pets in a
garden where I was raising produce. I had Holly cremated and will scatter
her ashes around a Mahonia holly. It has the symbolism of the name
("Holly" and "holly"). More important, it is planted right outside the
sunroom window where Holly had a favorite soft spot to lounge.

MaryL

"Christina Websell" wrote in message
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Once again we are separated by a common language. The term "garden" here
means all the land around your house that you grow things in or even have
paved for your car to park on. It's all garden.
The term "yard" here refers to to the little bit of outside space small
terraced houses sometimes have that is paved over.
Anyway, I'm not burying it anywhere on my land;-)
I have buried some of my euthanized dogs here but they have to be 4 feet
down at least because of the drugs used, and I'm certainly not going to get
someone in to dig a big hole for a rat.

Tweed

~~~~~
That's interesting. And you're right...we have been separated by a common
language. Again! I would use the term "garden" to refer to cultivated
land, which could be used to grow produce or could be planted with flowers.
The area that I have planted with grass and that I mow is what I refer to as
my "lawn." I tend to call all of my property (lawn, an area that is covered
in shrubs such as azaleas and camellias, etc.) as my "yard." I have a
fairly large yard for a house within city limits--about 3/4 acre.

I actually enjoy some of these exchanges where it turns out that several of
us have been using different forms of "English." I have learned different
usages of the same basic language through some of these messages. Thanks!

MaryL

"Judith Latham" wrote in message
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In article , MaryL
wrote:


"Christina Websell" wrote in message
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Once again we are separated by a common language. The term "garden"
here means all the land around your house that you grow things in or
even have paved for your car to park on. It's all garden. The term
"yard" here refers to to the little bit of outside space small terraced
houses sometimes have that is paved over. Anyway, I'm not burying it
anywhere on my land;-) I have buried some of my euthanized dogs here but
they have to be 4 feet down at least because of the drugs used, and I'm
certainly not going to get someone in to dig a big hole for a rat.

Tweed

~~~~~ That's interesting. And you're right...we have been separated by
a common language. Again! I would use the term "garden" to refer to
cultivated land, which could be used to grow produce or could be
planted with flowers. The area that I have planted with grass and that
I mow is what I refer to as my "lawn." I tend to call all of my
property (lawn, an area that is covered in shrubs such as azaleas and
camellias, etc.) as my "yard." I have a fairly large yard for a house
within city limits--about 3/4 acre.

I actually enjoy some of these exchanges where it turns out that several
of us have been using different forms of "English." I have learned
different usages of the same basic language through some of these
messages. Thanks!

MaryL

I agree that it's always interesting when we find ourselves using
different words and expressions for the same thing.

I was really surprised when I spoke a about my airing cupboard and only
the Brits knew what I meant.

I wouldn't call my land a garden at the moment I would call it a mess.
It's in that sorry state as half way through the summer I developed a
frozen left shoulder and being left handed I couldn't do much out there
and even though I'd almost got it under control (note the almost and it's
only small) it went wild (I did manage to mow the lawn) so now I explain
it away as good for the wild life. I picked my apples from my tree on
Saturday, they did ok as I wasn't needed for that.

Judith

Judith Latham
Stourbridge, West Midlands. UK.

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I had a small vegetable garden at my first house and loved it. The tomatoes
were so sweet that they almost tasted like I had added sugar--not like the
ones I buy at the store. My current house (I have lived here 18 years) is
too shady for veggies. It's beautiful--lots of big trees, camellias,
azaleas, etc., but not suitable for roses or vegetables. However, I truly
enjoy the foliage, and it's perfect for feeding backyard birds. You can see
a few pictures of "my" birds he
http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/4688545

MaryL

MaryL wrote:

I had a small vegetable garden at my first house and loved it. The tomatoes
were so sweet that they almost tasted like I had added sugar--not like the
ones I buy at the store. My current house (I have lived here 18 years) is
too shady for veggies. It's beautiful--lots of big trees, camellias,
azaleas, etc., but not suitable for roses or vegetables. However, I truly
enjoy the foliage, and it's perfect for feeding backyard birds. You can see
a few pictures of "my" birds he
http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/4688545

Those are beautiful birds! Especially the woodpeckers.

How do the birds get in and out of the circular cage/feeder? It looked
entirely enclosed to me.

I'll bet they all cleared out when the hawk landed on the chair!

--
Joyce

"Bastette" wrote in message ...

MaryL wrote:

I had a small vegetable garden at my first house and loved it. The
tomatoes
were so sweet that they almost tasted like I had added sugar--not like the
ones I buy at the store. My current house (I have lived here 18 years) is
too shady for veggies. It's beautiful--lots of big trees, camellias,
azaleas, etc., but not suitable for roses or vegetables. However, I truly
enjoy the foliage, and it's perfect for feeding backyard birds. You can
see
a few pictures of "my" birds he
http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/4688545

Those are beautiful birds! Especially the woodpeckers.

How do the birds get in and out of the circular cage/feeder? It looked
entirely enclosed to me.

I'll bet they all cleared out when the hawk landed on the chair!

--
Joyce

~~~~~
The circular cage is enclosed with a metal grid that is large enough to
permit small birds to enter but too small for large birds or squirrels. I
have had it for several years, and it works perfectly. You can see a good
picture of one he
http://www.duncraft.com/Duncraft-Metal-Selective-Feeder

I get a great many songbirds. Fortunately, it is rare for the hawk to come
into the yard because all the small birds then disappear (just as you
suspected). I do like looking at hawks, but I like for my yard to be safe
for smaller songbirds. I have so many trees that they form a canopy, and
that makes it more difficult for hawks to attack. I do sometimes see hawks
circling high overhead.

MaryL

"Judith Latham" wrote in message
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In article , Christina Websell
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"Judith Latham" wrote in message
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In article , Christina Websell
wrote:

"MaryL" wrote in message
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"Christina Websell" wrote in message
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"MaryL" wrote in message
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"Christina Websell" wrote in message
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Still here. I though the foxes would have had it by now. I'll
have to dispose of it soon.

Bet now:. 1. I will put the dead rat in the trash bin. 2. I got
fed up with what the neighbours did and will throw it over into
their garden


Tweed

~~~~~~~~ Please bury it if you think there is any chance at all
that it has been poisoned. If you do anything else--trashbin,
neighbours' yard, or even leave it where it is--you take the risk
that another animal will eat it and be poisoned.

MaryL

You're not entering into the spirit of this, do you trust me what
to do or not? Could I throw it over in a fit of revenge? I might
like to do that, since they cost me 1400 GBP to get my car out
which I could ill afford and I'd be delighted for them to see a
dead rat on their pristine no leaf will drop here yard. So, what do
you think I might do?

Tweed

~~~~~~~~ No, I did not think you would throw it over in a fit of
revenge. Did you notice that I also included leaving it in your
own yard or tossing it in the trash as part of my message? You
talked earlier about the possibility of someone putting out poison
to protect his/her chickens, so I had that in mind with my message.
I would much rather bury a suspicious carcass than take any
chances at all. My sister and brother-in-law once had the
experience of a bad suddenly plummeting to the ground. It was
struggling and foaming at the mouth and was close to a school.
They were not willing to take any risk with the possibility of
rabies under those circumstances. My brother-in-law killed the bat
and buried. They did report it to authorities but had done what
they could to protect children and animals. I know you do not have
rabies in the UK, so this is just an example of what I had in mind.

MaryL




I m merely asking what you think I might do i.e. how well do you all
think you know me? Do I have it in me to toss the rat over the fence
or not? Yes, I certainly have but will I?

Tweed

I don't think you will, except in your day dreams.

Judith

You are right. I won't bury it in my organic garden so the poison from
its body can leach into my soil as it rots. And as much as would like
to surprise my nasty neighbours, well, it's not the right thing to do,
is it? It's in the dustbin where it will be taken to a landfill site
that is already contaminated.

Tweed P.S my brother thought I should throw it over the fence after they
deliberately parked in front of my house at the same moment Claire and I
arrived when I was visiting Boyfie, I could only hop on my zimmer frame
at the time. So I had to hop much further. All because of a stupid
wall. Anyway, Karma will get them, I am sure of that. They seem to have
an awful lot of trouble with their drains and toilet recently, there's
often a van there unblocking them - maybe because they are are full of


You made me laugh out very loud and as you all know, I don't do that
unless DH has had one of funny accidents. (honestly they really are.)

I too believe that what goes round comes around. It'll get them.

Judith

I used to have nice neighbours a few years ago both sides. Now I don't.
It's a sad situation. The other side, we fell about trees. They insisted I
took some down so they could put a fence up so I did it as I was fed up with
the woman knocking on my door and banging on my window.
So she's put up a reed fence.
BTW, she is selling her house and wants me to get rid of my trailer that I
get my wood delivered into because it ruins the kerb appeal.
Bad luck on that, eh?

Tweed

On 9/18/2013 4:17 PM, Judith Latham wrote:
In article , Christina Websell
wrote:

I used to have nice neighbours a few years ago both sides. Now I don't.
It's a sad situation. The other side, we fell about trees. They
insisted I took some down so they could put a fence up so I did it as I
was fed up with the woman knocking on my door and banging on my window.
So she's put up a reed fence. BTW, she is selling her house and wants me
to get rid of my trailer that I get my wood delivered into because it
ruins the kerb appeal. Bad luck on that, eh?

Tweed

Lets hope that when she does move, you get some really nice neighbours.

It's sad when things go wrong with neighbours.

Judith

Hopefully Tweed will get some new, reasonable neighbors! For the most
part I've always had nice neighbors. Except the one woman who rented
the house next door who refused to walk her dog on a leash. She let it
poo in my yard instead. I left a note in her box asking her to conform
with the leash laws. She rang the doorbell one night, *with* her
unleashed dog and started yelling at me, calling me a liar.
Fortunately, she moved a month later. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Jill