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On Tue, 04 May 2004 12:27:13 -0400, Takayuki
yodeled: (Sherry ) wrote: I agree w/you, Victor......dude sounds like everything our ideals and values decry. But the Japanese are noted for their courtesy and unflappability (is there such a word or would the correct term be "poise"?) under pressure/stress. Those of us from other origins may be noted for other admirable qualities, but not particularly those. I agree. And I just bet Tak is the epitome of "unflappability" and poise and courtesy, judging from her posts! Hey, you guys are stereotyping me! Besides, I don't think I'm very poised or unflappable. Are you stamping your little feet? Theresa alt.tv.frasier FAQ: http://www.im-listening.net/FAQ/ Single-mindedness is all very well in cows or baboons; in an animal claiming to belong to the same species as Shakespeare it is simply disgraceful. (Aldous Huxley) |
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On Tue, 04 May 2004 12:27:13 -0400, Takayuki
yodeled: (Sherry ) wrote: I agree w/you, Victor......dude sounds like everything our ideals and values decry. But the Japanese are noted for their courtesy and unflappability (is there such a word or would the correct term be "poise"?) under pressure/stress. Those of us from other origins may be noted for other admirable qualities, but not particularly those. I agree. And I just bet Tak is the epitome of "unflappability" and poise and courtesy, judging from her posts! Hey, you guys are stereotyping me! Besides, I don't think I'm very poised or unflappable. Are you stamping your little feet? Theresa alt.tv.frasier FAQ: http://www.im-listening.net/FAQ/ Single-mindedness is all very well in cows or baboons; in an animal claiming to belong to the same species as Shakespeare it is simply disgraceful. (Aldous Huxley) |
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Kreisleriana wrote:
On Mon, 03 May 2004 22:27:58 -0400, Takayuki yodeled: I remember the first time we met, I introduced myself to him, and he looked me up and down and said, "Even though you are not white, your race's economic goals are similar to ours." Of course, I realized right away that his thinking was very different from mine, so I picked his brain every day over lunch after that. I'm always eager to learn a new point-of-view. He told me that the Japanese have a good model for a conservative single-race country, and that it would be a good idea for the United States to adopt policies along those lines. Holy crap, you *ARE* tolerant. I would have said to him, "But my race is very violent," and smacked him upside the head with anything available. LOL! It is true that my beliefs were basically the opposite of his, but if people with different beliefs can't be friendly, then men wouldn't be able to get along with women, Muslims wouldn't be able to get along with Jews, Catholics wouldn't be able to get along with Protestants... Oh wait, maybe they can't get along. Anyway, I think the truth was that he was an isolated person, because his beliefs were outside the mainstream. I could associate with him safely because nobody could say that I am a white supremacist. It probably helped for him to be able to talk things out. |
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Kreisleriana wrote:
On Mon, 03 May 2004 22:27:58 -0400, Takayuki yodeled: I remember the first time we met, I introduced myself to him, and he looked me up and down and said, "Even though you are not white, your race's economic goals are similar to ours." Of course, I realized right away that his thinking was very different from mine, so I picked his brain every day over lunch after that. I'm always eager to learn a new point-of-view. He told me that the Japanese have a good model for a conservative single-race country, and that it would be a good idea for the United States to adopt policies along those lines. Holy crap, you *ARE* tolerant. I would have said to him, "But my race is very violent," and smacked him upside the head with anything available. LOL! It is true that my beliefs were basically the opposite of his, but if people with different beliefs can't be friendly, then men wouldn't be able to get along with women, Muslims wouldn't be able to get along with Jews, Catholics wouldn't be able to get along with Protestants... Oh wait, maybe they can't get along. Anyway, I think the truth was that he was an isolated person, because his beliefs were outside the mainstream. I could associate with him safely because nobody could say that I am a white supremacist. It probably helped for him to be able to talk things out. |
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"Kreisleriana" wrote in message ... On Mon, 03 May 2004 22:27:58 -0400, Takayuki yodeled: (snip) Regarding the white supremacist, I've actually lost touch with him - I'll have to try and look him up! We used to have lunch often, and yes, we discussed race relations a lot, but no, it was never even slightly strained or uncivil. I mean, that's how he defined himself - he was Republican and a white supremacist. You can't avoid it because he can hardly make a sentence without including those two very important facts. Still, he was very bright and well read, so could support his views very well. You can't support those views well. You can only fool yourself and others that you are supporting them very well. I remember the first time we met, I introduced myself to him, and he looked me up and down and said, "Even though you are not white, your race's economic goals are similar to ours." Of course, I realized right away that his thinking was very different from mine, so I picked his brain every day over lunch after that. I'm always eager to learn a new point-of-view. He told me that the Japanese have a good model for a conservative single-race country, and that it would be a good idea for the United States to adopt policies along those lines. Holy crap, you *ARE* tolerant. I would have said to him, "But my race is very violent," and smacked him upside the head with anything available. ROTFLMAO and scaring the cats.... Oh dang that was funny. TBird ----- pascifist in theoretical agreement ;-) Theresa alt.tv.frasier FAQ: http://www.im-listening.net/FAQ/ Single-mindedness is all very well in cows or baboons; in an animal claiming to belong to the same species as Shakespeare it is simply disgraceful. (Aldous Huxley) |
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"Kreisleriana" wrote in message ... On Mon, 03 May 2004 22:27:58 -0400, Takayuki yodeled: (snip) Regarding the white supremacist, I've actually lost touch with him - I'll have to try and look him up! We used to have lunch often, and yes, we discussed race relations a lot, but no, it was never even slightly strained or uncivil. I mean, that's how he defined himself - he was Republican and a white supremacist. You can't avoid it because he can hardly make a sentence without including those two very important facts. Still, he was very bright and well read, so could support his views very well. You can't support those views well. You can only fool yourself and others that you are supporting them very well. I remember the first time we met, I introduced myself to him, and he looked me up and down and said, "Even though you are not white, your race's economic goals are similar to ours." Of course, I realized right away that his thinking was very different from mine, so I picked his brain every day over lunch after that. I'm always eager to learn a new point-of-view. He told me that the Japanese have a good model for a conservative single-race country, and that it would be a good idea for the United States to adopt policies along those lines. Holy crap, you *ARE* tolerant. I would have said to him, "But my race is very violent," and smacked him upside the head with anything available. ROTFLMAO and scaring the cats.... Oh dang that was funny. TBird ----- pascifist in theoretical agreement ;-) Theresa alt.tv.frasier FAQ: http://www.im-listening.net/FAQ/ Single-mindedness is all very well in cows or baboons; in an animal claiming to belong to the same species as Shakespeare it is simply disgraceful. (Aldous Huxley) |
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Kreisleriana wrote:
On Tue, 04 May 2004 12:27:13 -0400, Takayuki yodeled: Hey, you guys are stereotyping me! Besides, I don't think I'm very poised or unflappable. Are you stamping your little feet? Definitely! |
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Kreisleriana wrote:
On Tue, 04 May 2004 12:27:13 -0400, Takayuki yodeled: Hey, you guys are stereotyping me! Besides, I don't think I'm very poised or unflappable. Are you stamping your little feet? Definitely! |
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Tak, dude (and you *are* a dude, for the uninformed), the Hopitus insists
you *must* be the epitome of Japanese social skills (poise, courtesy, and more) to have even interacted with that boorish, arrogant, obnoxious "white supremacist"'s initial remarks to your unintroduced self @ your very first meeting w/him. He, OTOH, verified the complete stereotype of "white supremacists" and would probably be happy and gratified to do so. By the way, the only stereotype of Japanese I roll my eyes @ is that tv cooking show, "Iron Chef", of which Yowie is so fond. Do you ever watch it? If so, I bet you'd probably be ROFL @ the translations given of what the "judges" are remarking re the final contestant dishes they're sampling onscreen. I don't speak a word of Japanese except "arigato" and it looks contrived and phony to me, just by their expressions. Sure learned a lot about Japanese delicacies during the cooking (extreme closeups) processes. "Takayuki" wrote in message ... : Kreisleriana wrote: : : On Tue, 04 May 2004 12:27:13 -0400, Takayuki : yodeled: : : Hey, you guys are stereotyping me! Besides, I don't think I'm very : poised or unflappable. : : Are you stamping your little feet? : : Definitely! : |
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