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OT - Damned insensitivity
"Cheryl" wrote in message ... My mom decided to sell my dad's car and got a few quotes from dealers on trade-ins and also went to Carmax, who gave a good quote. She went today to finalize the sale and I don't know the whole story because mom was crying when she told me, but they gave her a hard time because the death certificate for my dad wasn't stamped, and apparently the death certificates here aren't stamped like they used to be, and the Carmax person wouldn't accept it because of that. Actually, when she first went in for the quote they never told her they needed a death certificate to make the sale, and she just brought one along as an afterthought. After having to escalate the problem to management and her losing it and crying asking why they are giving her such a hard time after just losing her husband and she didn't know what she was supposed to do? I told her she needs to call me in these situations because I didn't know she was going in there today to do this. She is way more important to me than my job and I'd leave work to go help her. *sigh* -- Cheryl This kind of behavior infuriates me. It's bullying, picking on someone weaker. I see no reason for it at all. I'm so sorry your Mother experienced this, it just ties my stomach into knots to think about it. If you do manage to corral those that hurt her, make sure and ask them what their Mothers would think of their behavior. Karla |
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OT - Damned insensitivity
On Jul 24, 7:03*pm, "Cheryl" wrote:
My mom decided to sell my dad's car and got a few quotes from dealers on trade-ins and also went to Carmax, who gave a good quote. *She went today to finalize the sale and I don't know the whole story because mom was crying when she told me, but they gave her a hard time because the death certificate for my dad wasn't stamped, and apparently the death certificates here aren't stamped like they used to be, and the Carmax person wouldn't accept it because of that. *Actually, when she first went in for the quote they never told her they needed a death certificate to make the sale, and she just brought one along as an afterthought. *After having to escalate the problem to management and her losing it and crying asking why they are giving her such a hard time after just losing her husband and she didn't know what she was supposed to do? *I told her she needs to call me in these situations because I didn't know she was going in there today to do this. She is way more important to me than my job and I'd leave work to go help her. **sigh* -- Cheryl I stopped being amazed at the cruelty (generally unintentional) people exhibit, in order to save themselves a step. They don't care how hard it is on survivors, they just dont' want to have to actually *do* anything themselves. Calming purrs for you and your mom (I realize this is a day late, but I can still send soothing thoughts). Smokie Darling (Annie) |
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OT - Damned insensitivity
On Jul 24, 6:03*pm, "Cheryl" wrote:
My mom decided to sell my dad's car and got a few quotes from dealers on trade-ins and also went to Carmax, who gave a good quote. * The dealer is what we could call over here " a complete and utter tosser" (and several words even less polite) Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs |
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OT - Damned insensitivity
Cheryl wrote: My mom decided to sell my dad's car and got a few quotes from dealers on trade-ins and also went to Carmax, who gave a good quote. She went today to finalize the sale and I don't know the whole story because mom was crying when she told me, but they gave her a hard time because the death certificate for my dad wasn't stamped, and apparently the death certificates here aren't stamped like they used to be, and the Carmax person wouldn't accept it because of that. Actually, when she first went in for the quote they never told her they needed a death certificate to make the sale, and she just brought one along as an afterthought. After having to escalate the problem to management and her losing it and crying asking why they are giving her such a hard time after just losing her husband and she didn't know what she was supposed to do? I told her she needs to call me in these situations because I didn't know she was going in there today to do this. She is way more important to me than my job and I'd leave work to go help her. *sigh* I'm not sure where you live, but I assume somewhere in the U.S. For what possible reason would they require a death certificate? I have disposed of quite a few cars over the years, and all that was ever required was the pink slip. (And if that's unavailable, one can get a duplicate.) |
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OT - Damned insensitivity
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message
... Cheryl wrote: My mom decided to sell my dad's car and got a few quotes from dealers on trade-ins and also went to Carmax, who gave a good quote. She went today to finalize the sale and I don't know the whole story because mom was crying when she told me, but they gave her a hard time because the death certificate for my dad wasn't stamped, and apparently the death certificates here aren't stamped like they used to be, and the Carmax person wouldn't accept it because of that. Actually, when she first went in for the quote they never told her they needed a death certificate to make the sale, and she just brought one along as an afterthought. After having to escalate the problem to management and her losing it and crying asking why they are giving her such a hard time after just losing her husband and she didn't know what she was supposed to do? I told her she needs to call me in these situations because I didn't know she was going in there today to do this. She is way more important to me than my job and I'd leave work to go help her. *sigh* I'm not sure where you live, but I assume somewhere in the U.S. For what possible reason would they require a death certificate? I have disposed of quite a few cars over the years, and all that was ever required was the pink slip. (And if that's unavailable, one can get a duplicate.) If the vehicle in question is in your name, just having the "pink slip" (hereafter called a title) is all that's needed in order to sell it. If the vehicle's title is in the name of a deceased person (and no other person is listed, such as a surviving spouse or child/parent/sibling), the buyer should require a copy of the death certificate in order to ensure that they are not buying a stolen vehicle. Also helps with getting title of said vehicle transferred to the survivor's name to have a death certificate, since the owner simply cannot be there to sign it over. For example. My husband & I own two vehicles. One is in both our names (since we were both working when we purchased it and used both our incomes as backing for the loan). If he were to die, I would need a copy of the death certificate in order to have his name removed from the title. The other car is in his name only (although I am primary driver of that vehicle (and I am the one that writes the payment checks and insurance and license plate checks), he is the only one working and we could only use his income as backing for the loan.. or we would pay an exorbitant interest rate since I have no income), and I would also need a death certificate in order to have title transferred to my name. Some states require that the signature for transfer of title be notarized by a notary public (to ensure that the person who signed it is in fact the person who has authority to sign it), as we did in Indiana years ago, but that became a pain, so they did away with it. -- ^..^ This is Kitty. Copy and paste Kitty into your signature to help her wipe out Bunny's world domination. -- The ONE and ONLY lefthanded-pathetic-paranoid-psychotic-sarcastic-wiseass-ditzy former-blonde in Bloomington! (And proud of it, too)© email me at nalee1964 (at) comcast (dot) net http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep |
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OT - Damned insensitivity
"Magic Mood Jeep" wrote in message
... "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message ... I'm not sure where you live, but I assume somewhere in the U.S. For what possible reason would they require a death certificate? I have disposed of quite a few cars over the years, and all that was ever required was the pink slip. (And if that's unavailable, one can get a duplicate.) If the vehicle in question is in your name, just having the "pink slip" (hereafter called a title) is all that's needed in order to sell it. If the vehicle's title is in the name of a deceased person (and no other person is listed, such as a surviving spouse or child/parent/sibling), the buyer should require a copy of the death certificate in order to ensure that they are not buying a stolen vehicle. Also helps with getting title of said vehicle transferred to the survivor's name to have a death certificate, since the owner simply cannot be there to sign it over. For example. My husband & I own two vehicles. One is in both our names (since we were both working when we purchased it and used both our incomes as backing for the loan). If he were to die, I would need a copy of the death certificate in order to have his name removed from the title. The other car is in his name only (although I am primary driver of that vehicle (and I am the one that writes the payment checks and insurance and license plate checks), he is the only one working and we could only use his income as backing for the loan.. or we would pay an exorbitant interest rate since I have no income), and I would also need a death certificate in order to have title transferred to my name. Some states require that the signature for transfer of title be notarized by a notary public (to ensure that the person who signed it is in fact the person who has authority to sign it), as we did in Indiana years ago, but that became a pain, so they did away with it. Thanks MMJ. That's the case here, too. The car was in his and my mother's name. To make things even worse and her more upset today, the check was made out to BOTH of them - she didn't notice that yesterday after the fiasco - and when my mom tried to deposit it, they said she had to open a new account in a trust or something like that. I told her she HAS to stop trying to do these things right now, and that with her kids here and more than willing to help with everything, there's no reason for her to go through this by herself. She still has the check and I'm going with her back to Carmax on Tuesday to see if they can rewrite the check in her name alone. This whole thing is crazy. I want her to call her living trust lawyer and have him take care of these things but she's being stubborn. If we can't get a new check, she said she will. *sigh again* |
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OT - Damned insensitivity
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message
... Cheryl wrote: My mom decided to sell my dad's car and got a few quotes from dealers on trade-ins and also went to Carmax, who gave a good quote. She went today to finalize the sale and I don't know the whole story because mom was crying when she told me, but they gave her a hard time because the death certificate for my dad wasn't stamped, and apparently the death certificates here aren't stamped like they used to be, and the Carmax person wouldn't accept it because of that. Actually, when she first went in for the quote they never told her they needed a death certificate to make the sale, and she just brought one along as an afterthought. After having to escalate the problem to management and her losing it and crying asking why they are giving her such a hard time after just losing her husband and she didn't know what she was supposed to do? I told her she needs to call me in these situations because I didn't know she was going in there today to do this. She is way more important to me than my job and I'd leave work to go help her. *sigh* I'm not sure where you live, but I assume somewhere in the U.S. For what possible reason would they require a death certificate? I have disposed of quite a few cars over the years, and all that was ever required was the pink slip. (And if that's unavailable, one can get a duplicate.) I can't speak for every state, Evelyn, but here in SC it's all in how the title is worded. When my father died I was on the phone for weeks making sure everything transferred over to my mother. I called the DMV to ask about the car. I was told since the car was titled "AND" (rather than "OR") yes, she owned the car. I had to produce a death certificate when my mother died to get the title transferred to my name so I could sell it as executor of her estate. Jill |
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OT - Damned insensitivity
The bank wouldn't let me take Bob's name off our account for two years, said
there may be insurance checks to be deposited. They were right but, there was no trouble depositing things with his name on them. Couldn't cash right out but could deposit. Maybe they had separate accounts of banks with a different policy. "Cheryl" wrote in message ... "Magic Mood Jeep" wrote in message ... "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message ... I'm not sure where you live, but I assume somewhere in the U.S. For what possible reason would they require a death certificate? I have disposed of quite a few cars over the years, and all that was ever required was the pink slip. (And if that's unavailable, one can get a duplicate.) If the vehicle in question is in your name, just having the "pink slip" (hereafter called a title) is all that's needed in order to sell it. If the vehicle's title is in the name of a deceased person (and no other person is listed, such as a surviving spouse or child/parent/sibling), the buyer should require a copy of the death certificate in order to ensure that they are not buying a stolen vehicle. Also helps with getting title of said vehicle transferred to the survivor's name to have a death certificate, since the owner simply cannot be there to sign it over. For example. My husband & I own two vehicles. One is in both our names (since we were both working when we purchased it and used both our incomes as backing for the loan). If he were to die, I would need a copy of the death certificate in order to have his name removed from the title. The other car is in his name only (although I am primary driver of that vehicle (and I am the one that writes the payment checks and insurance and license plate checks), he is the only one working and we could only use his income as backing for the loan.. or we would pay an exorbitant interest rate since I have no income), and I would also need a death certificate in order to have title transferred to my name. Some states require that the signature for transfer of title be notarized by a notary public (to ensure that the person who signed it is in fact the person who has authority to sign it), as we did in Indiana years ago, but that became a pain, so they did away with it. Thanks MMJ. That's the case here, too. The car was in his and my mother's name. To make things even worse and her more upset today, the check was made out to BOTH of them - she didn't notice that yesterday after the fiasco - and when my mom tried to deposit it, they said she had to open a new account in a trust or something like that. I told her she HAS to stop trying to do these things right now, and that with her kids here and more than willing to help with everything, there's no reason for her to go through this by herself. She still has the check and I'm going with her back to Carmax on Tuesday to see if they can rewrite the check in her name alone. This whole thing is crazy. I want her to call her living trust lawyer and have him take care of these things but she's being stubborn. If we can't get a new check, she said she will. *sigh again* |
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OT - Damned insensitivity
On Jul 25, 3:30*pm, "Granby" wrote:
The bank wouldn't let me take Bob's name off our account for two years, said there may be insurance checks to be deposited. *They were right but, there was no trouble depositing things with his name on them. *Couldn't cash right out but could deposit. Maybe they had separate accounts of banks with a different policy The morning after my father died my mother notified the bank who that very second she called put an immediate stop on ALL their joint accounts- cancelled the cash point cards and everything until she (or someone with a written statement from her that they were acting on her behalf) took the official death certificate into the bank whereupon they would open a new account in her name and send out new cards within 10 working days! So, less than 24 hours after being widowed my mother had the cash in her purse and nothing else....No way to pay for the funeral until she got the bank sorted out. Luckily, my youngest brother could cover for everything until it was sorted but once she did have a new bank account he walked into that bank, where he also banked and closed his account with them- and told them in no uncertain terms why they were losing his consider business. Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs |
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OT - Damned insensitivity
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:58:08 GMT, Judith Latham
wrote: I'm so sorry you're Mom had this happen. I really don't know what goes on in some peoples' heads. How would they have liked to be treated this way. Is Carmax a part of a chain with a head office? If so I would write to the head office if you get no apology, possibly compensation. But then again, your Mom's been through enough so anything you do about it, don't tell her until afterwards. Things get awfully legalistic in inheritances. If a certified copy of a death certificate is required by law, there are no if ands or buts about it. A copy made on an office copier will not do. You need to get the real thing from the state. Bud |
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