Your Daughters Boyfriend

"Scumball" wrote in message
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God, I never cease to be amazed at the unnaturally Puritanical views of
many
Americans to age and consent issues.
In India, the age of consent is 13

In India, women are chattal.


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Hello, Mr. Baker. Meet Mr. 45 ACP.

What SCUM.


"James Marz" wrote in message
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What would you do if your daughters boyfriend did this to your cats?



This was taken from an article by Amber Hunt Martin.

start article

It wasn't just that Edward Baker allegedly bashed the cat in the face.
Or that he chased it around the blood-spattered laundry room. Or that
he extinguished cigarettes on another cat's paws.

It was, authorities said, that he acted methodically, intentionally.


Baker, 20, is charged with animal torture, a felony punishable by up
to 4 years in prison upon conviction. Police said Baker was living
with his 17-year-old girlfriend and her family when he began
tormenting and beating two orange tabbies named Crystal and Haley,
ages 8 and 3.

Crystal had been bashed in the face with a bottle of laundry detergent
so hard, her teeth pierced the bottle. The impact broke her lower jaw
and cracked her sternum and upper jaw.

Her daughter, Haley, had singed fur and charred, black paw pads,
apparently from being burned by a lighter or cigarettes.

Both cats are healing at home, said their owner, Kim Steis.

"They're still a little afraid when someone walks down the hallway,"
she said Tuesday. "I don't think they'll ever be the same."

Steis, whose daughter Tia is still dating Baker, said the man moved
into her Clinton Township ranch in December. Baker seemed friendly,
she said, but the cats clearly didn't like him.

Steis discovered that Haley's left front leg was broken in January.
Steis didn't know how it happened, but she noticed that the usually
people-friendly pet raced from a room when Baker entered.

Then, on Feb. 21, she heard Crystal wailing in the laundry room.

She said she found the cat on her back near the furnace, hissing at
Baker, who hovered nearby.

Crystal's mouth was bloody and swollen; both eyes were bruised.

Steis has paid $1,767 in veterinarian bills.

Baker's girlfriend is standing by him and has offered to testify on
his behalf.

end article

Well, What would you like to do or say to this man?


James Marz

For full article
http://www.freep.com/news/locmac/peta14_20040414.htm

Hello, Mr. Baker. Meet Mr. 45 ACP.

What SCUM.


"James Marz" wrote in message
om...
What would you do if your daughters boyfriend did this to your cats?



This was taken from an article by Amber Hunt Martin.

start article

It wasn't just that Edward Baker allegedly bashed the cat in the face.
Or that he chased it around the blood-spattered laundry room. Or that
he extinguished cigarettes on another cat's paws.

It was, authorities said, that he acted methodically, intentionally.


Baker, 20, is charged with animal torture, a felony punishable by up
to 4 years in prison upon conviction. Police said Baker was living
with his 17-year-old girlfriend and her family when he began
tormenting and beating two orange tabbies named Crystal and Haley,
ages 8 and 3.

Crystal had been bashed in the face with a bottle of laundry detergent
so hard, her teeth pierced the bottle. The impact broke her lower jaw
and cracked her sternum and upper jaw.

Her daughter, Haley, had singed fur and charred, black paw pads,
apparently from being burned by a lighter or cigarettes.

Both cats are healing at home, said their owner, Kim Steis.

"They're still a little afraid when someone walks down the hallway,"
she said Tuesday. "I don't think they'll ever be the same."

Steis, whose daughter Tia is still dating Baker, said the man moved
into her Clinton Township ranch in December. Baker seemed friendly,
she said, but the cats clearly didn't like him.

Steis discovered that Haley's left front leg was broken in January.
Steis didn't know how it happened, but she noticed that the usually
people-friendly pet raced from a room when Baker entered.

Then, on Feb. 21, she heard Crystal wailing in the laundry room.

She said she found the cat on her back near the furnace, hissing at
Baker, who hovered nearby.

Crystal's mouth was bloody and swollen; both eyes were bruised.

Steis has paid $1,767 in veterinarian bills.

Baker's girlfriend is standing by him and has offered to testify on
his behalf.

end article

Well, What would you like to do or say to this man?


James Marz

For full article
http://www.freep.com/news/locmac/peta14_20040414.htm

"Scumball" wrote in
:

God, I never cease to be amazed at the unnaturally Puritanical views of
many Americans to age and consent issues.
In India, the age of consent is 13 !
In Holland, I THINK it's 14.
In most other countries (that have one), it's 16.
Only in American states is it 18, 21,31 or 93 !
Jees already !

"'cedes" wrote in message
...
"Living with his 17 year old girlfriend"???? Isn't this called
statutory rape in some states? This girl is underage and no doubt very
low class. WTF is the girls parents, to allow a 17 year old to be
living with her boyfriend? sighhhhhhhhhhhh This girl is doomed.

"James Marz" wrote in message
om...
What would you do if your daughters boyfriend did this to your cats?



This was taken from an article by Amber Hunt Martin.

start article

It wasn't just that Edward Baker allegedly bashed the cat in the
face. Or that he chased it around the blood-spattered laundry room.
Or that he extinguished cigarettes on another cat's paws.

It was, authorities said, that he acted methodically, intentionally.


Baker, 20, is charged with animal torture, a felony punishable by up
to 4 years in prison upon conviction. Police said Baker was living
with his 17-year-old girlfriend and her family when he began
tormenting and beating two orange tabbies named Crystal and Haley,
ages 8 and 3.

Crystal had been bashed in the face with a bottle of laundry
detergent so hard, her teeth pierced the bottle. The impact broke
her lower jaw and cracked her sternum and upper jaw.

Her daughter, Haley, had singed fur and charred, black paw pads,
apparently from being burned by a lighter or cigarettes.

Both cats are healing at home, said their owner, Kim Steis.

"They're still a little afraid when someone walks down the hallway,"
she said Tuesday. "I don't think they'll ever be the same."

Steis, whose daughter Tia is still dating Baker, said the man moved
into her Clinton Township ranch in December. Baker seemed friendly,
she said, but the cats clearly didn't like him.

Steis discovered that Haley's left front leg was broken in January.
Steis didn't know how it happened, but she noticed that the usually
people-friendly pet raced from a room when Baker entered.

Then, on Feb. 21, she heard Crystal wailing in the laundry room.

She said she found the cat on her back near the furnace, hissing at
Baker, who hovered nearby.

Crystal's mouth was bloody and swollen; both eyes were bruised.

Steis has paid $1,767 in veterinarian bills.

Baker's girlfriend is standing by him and has offered to testify on
his behalf.

end article

Well, What would you like to do or say to this man?


James Marz

For full article
http://www.freep.com/news/locmac/peta14_20040414.htm






They are puritanical for the simple reason that that's where the puritans
went, I suppose.

"Scumball" wrote in
:

God, I never cease to be amazed at the unnaturally Puritanical views of
many Americans to age and consent issues.
In India, the age of consent is 13 !
In Holland, I THINK it's 14.
In most other countries (that have one), it's 16.
Only in American states is it 18, 21,31 or 93 !
Jees already !

"'cedes" wrote in message
...
"Living with his 17 year old girlfriend"???? Isn't this called
statutory rape in some states? This girl is underage and no doubt very
low class. WTF is the girls parents, to allow a 17 year old to be
living with her boyfriend? sighhhhhhhhhhhh This girl is doomed.

"James Marz" wrote in message
om...
What would you do if your daughters boyfriend did this to your cats?



This was taken from an article by Amber Hunt Martin.

start article

It wasn't just that Edward Baker allegedly bashed the cat in the
face. Or that he chased it around the blood-spattered laundry room.
Or that he extinguished cigarettes on another cat's paws.

It was, authorities said, that he acted methodically, intentionally.


Baker, 20, is charged with animal torture, a felony punishable by up
to 4 years in prison upon conviction. Police said Baker was living
with his 17-year-old girlfriend and her family when he began
tormenting and beating two orange tabbies named Crystal and Haley,
ages 8 and 3.

Crystal had been bashed in the face with a bottle of laundry
detergent so hard, her teeth pierced the bottle. The impact broke
her lower jaw and cracked her sternum and upper jaw.

Her daughter, Haley, had singed fur and charred, black paw pads,
apparently from being burned by a lighter or cigarettes.

Both cats are healing at home, said their owner, Kim Steis.

"They're still a little afraid when someone walks down the hallway,"
she said Tuesday. "I don't think they'll ever be the same."

Steis, whose daughter Tia is still dating Baker, said the man moved
into her Clinton Township ranch in December. Baker seemed friendly,
she said, but the cats clearly didn't like him.

Steis discovered that Haley's left front leg was broken in January.
Steis didn't know how it happened, but she noticed that the usually
people-friendly pet raced from a room when Baker entered.

Then, on Feb. 21, she heard Crystal wailing in the laundry room.

She said she found the cat on her back near the furnace, hissing at
Baker, who hovered nearby.

Crystal's mouth was bloody and swollen; both eyes were bruised.

Steis has paid $1,767 in veterinarian bills.

Baker's girlfriend is standing by him and has offered to testify on
his behalf.

end article

Well, What would you like to do or say to this man?


James Marz

For full article
http://www.freep.com/news/locmac/peta14_20040414.htm






They are puritanical for the simple reason that that's where the puritans
went, I suppose.

Laura R. wrote in
:

circa Sat, 08 May 2004 01:35:47 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
'cedes ) said,
"Living with his 17 year old girlfriend"???? Isn't this called
statutory rape in some states? This girl is underage and no doubt very
low class. WTF is the girls parents, to allow a 17 year old to be
living with her boyfriend? sighhhhhhhhhhhh This girl is doomed.

Unfortunately, I believe that 16 is the cutoff point for statutory
rape. I don't know of any states that enforce a higher age than that,
anyway. I could be wrong, but either way, in this situation, the
parents are the bigger problem.

Laura

No, the boyfriend is the problem. Blame belongs to the person doing the bad
stuff. Of course, others might have seen him coming, figured out what he
was like, etc, but they can't be _more_ to blame than him.

Animal torture is a very bad sign. As someone pointed out, it is common for
serial killers to have started this way.

Laura R. wrote in
:

circa Sat, 08 May 2004 01:35:47 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
'cedes ) said,
"Living with his 17 year old girlfriend"???? Isn't this called
statutory rape in some states? This girl is underage and no doubt very
low class. WTF is the girls parents, to allow a 17 year old to be
living with her boyfriend? sighhhhhhhhhhhh This girl is doomed.

Unfortunately, I believe that 16 is the cutoff point for statutory
rape. I don't know of any states that enforce a higher age than that,
anyway. I could be wrong, but either way, in this situation, the
parents are the bigger problem.

Laura

No, the boyfriend is the problem. Blame belongs to the person doing the bad
stuff. Of course, others might have seen him coming, figured out what he
was like, etc, but they can't be _more_ to blame than him.

Animal torture is a very bad sign. As someone pointed out, it is common for
serial killers to have started this way.

Heh. Yeah, something like that, although there will NEVER be any Glocks in
this house. Plastic pieces o' junk.

- med

"Laura R." wrote in message
.. .
circa Sat, 08 May 2004 14:47:35 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
[ medic ] ) said,

Hello, Mr. Baker. Meet Mr. 45 ACP.

Or Mr. Glock? Or Messrs. Smith and Wesson?

;-)

Laura
--
I am Dyslexia of Borg,
Your ass will be laminated.

Heh. Yeah, something like that, although there will NEVER be any Glocks in
this house. Plastic pieces o' junk.

- med

"Laura R." wrote in message
.. .
circa Sat, 08 May 2004 14:47:35 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
[ medic ] ) said,

Hello, Mr. Baker. Meet Mr. 45 ACP.

Or Mr. Glock? Or Messrs. Smith and Wesson?

;-)

Laura
--
I am Dyslexia of Borg,
Your ass will be laminated.

God, I never cease to be amazed at the unnaturally Puritanical views of many
Americans to age and consent issues.

Well, hey, so guess what, it's the law here whether you agree with it or not.
Tough ****. And, I might add, generally, in the US, at least, if a girl is
doing that kind of crap when she's 13-17, she winds up being a loser. She
doesn't generally finish high school, much less go to college, and her future
will be very limited except for popping out illegitimate children, having
abusive partners, doing drugs, and other fun things like that.

Candace
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