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Protein to fats ratio; phosphorus%
What is the ideal ratio proteins and fats in a cats diet? What about
Phosphorous? To take one example, Fancy Feast chopped grill feast that my cat loves: According to http://webpages.charter.net/katkarma/canfood.htm Protein= 51%, Fat= 35%, Phosporous= 1.55%. all presumably by weight. According to http://www.geocities.com/jmpeerson/canfood.html Protein= 37 %, Fat= 61%, (by Kcal) Phosporous= 1.55% (mg/100 Kcal) OK, so is the protein to fats ratio here good or bad or so so but acceptable? What about phosphorous? Thanks. |
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Protein to fats ratio; phosphorus%
Kiran wrote:
What is the ideal ratio proteins and fats in a cats diet? What about Phosphorous? To take one example, Fancy Feast chopped grill feast that my cat loves: According to http://webpages.charter.net/katkarma/canfood.htm I thought the whole point to the above URL was to spell out the dangers of high phosphorus levels for her cats which died of renal failure? Does she not emphasize that enough? 1.55% is TWICE what you want for phosphorus. TWICE. TWICE. TWICE, I say thrice times Protein= 51%, Fat= 35%, Phosporous= 1.55%. This is twice the ratio of phosphorus compared to all of the Science Diet foods. I prefer half this ratio, that is, 0.75%, maximum, dry matter basis [the water removed, usually around 78% moisture for this brand, so divide by 0.22] Of all the Fancy Feast varieties, I found only five under 0.80%, only five. And the protein is a bit high although maybe okay. I prefer around 40%. Why? Although cats are obligate carnivores, I read, half protein is more work for the kidneys, again renal concerns [which is also the problem with phosphorus]. In any case, no mouse or bird is 50% protein, more like half that. I would be afraid to continually feed my feline anything with this ridiculously high amount of phosphorus. Yet it's in most of the typical supermarket foods. I think this is very bad. all presumably by weight. According to http://www.geocities.com/jmpeerson/canfood.html A good URL but confusing without spelling out the dry matter basis which allows things to be compared across brands. Protein= 37 %, Fat= 61%, (by Kcal) Phosporous= 1.55% (mg/100 Kcal) OK, so is the protein to fats ratio here good or bad or so so but acceptable? What about phosphorous? Terrible, way too high. Double. The good foods, Science Diet, and the rest, are half that. I am not kidding. Go to hillspet.com. All their foods are around 0.70% and it is no accident and no accident that cats fed foods in low phosphorus levels have low renal or kidney problems, compared to the high phosphorus levels. In any case, why can't we use percentages on a dry matter basis. The mg/100kcal is probably okay and if you eyeball the data, Purina/Nestle Fancy Feast is twice the others. But still, Dry Matter Basis percentage is what I'm used to so I'll pass on this type of analysis. It's late. I'm tired. And I think I answered your question. At least I tried. Thanks. |
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Protein to fats ratio; phosphorus%
Kiran wrote: What is the ideal ratio proteins and fats in a cats diet? What about Phosphorous? Here's a webpage for the nutrient requirements: http://www.serve.com/BatonRouge/nrc1.htm Lauren See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe |
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Protein to fats ratio; phosphorus%
Gaznapiro wrote: Lauren See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Great pics, I liked this one the best: http://community.webshots.com/photo/...42460320WbePqA Thanks so much!! I looked at the pics on your site and they are all so beautiful. I especially liked the one of Betje. What beautiful coloring. |
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