Abelard Update

It's still touch-and-go with the Aby cat.

He's getting around much better, but he seems to have a "head cold" and it's
become all but impossible to get anything into his stomach. I've never seen
anything like the behavior he's exhibiting. There's no way to get a pill
into him now. Just absolutely no way. You can't even get close to his mouth
with one, he thrashes so violently and snaps, bites anything in the
vicinity, and foams profusely at the mouth when nothing at all has been
given. My hands are a total mess.

And of course he still won't eat or drink - at least, I haven't seen him do
so, and I don't think he's sneaking food, because he continues growing
thinner. Being that it's so very difficult to administer anything, I've
started injecting 50cc of 0.45% saline solution under the skin once a day,
and he's starting to get impatient with that. I might be able to get away
with it one or two more times before it becomes as difficult as giving water
by mouth with a syringe.

I guess it's up to him, now, to either get well or die, because he won't let
me do much of anything aimed at keeping him alive.

Pat wrote:
It's still touch-and-go with the Aby cat.

He's getting around much better, but he seems to have a "head cold"
and it's become all but impossible to get anything into his stomach.
I've never seen anything like the behavior he's exhibiting. There's
no way to get a pill into him now. Just absolutely no way. You can't
even get close to his mouth with one, he thrashes so violently and
snaps, bites anything in the vicinity, and foams profusely at the
mouth when nothing at all has been given. My hands are a total mess.

And of course he still won't eat or drink - at least, I haven't seen
him do so, and I don't think he's sneaking food, because he continues
growing thinner. Being that it's so very difficult to administer
anything, I've started injecting 50cc of 0.45% saline solution under
the skin once a day, and he's starting to get impatient with that. I
might be able to get away with it one or two more times before it
becomes as difficult as giving water by mouth with a syringe.

I guess it's up to him, now, to either get well or die, because he
won't let me do much of anything aimed at keeping him alive.

Continuing purrs.
--
Adrian (Owned by Snoopy, Bagheera & Shadow)
Cats leave pawprints on your heart
http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk

"Pat" wrote in message
et...
It's still touch-and-go with the Aby cat.

He's getting around much better, but he seems to have a "head cold" and
it's
become all but impossible to get anything into his stomach. I've never
seen
anything like the behavior he's exhibiting. There's no way to get a pill
into him now. Just absolutely no way. You can't even get close to his
mouth
with one, he thrashes so violently and snaps, bites anything in the
vicinity, and foams profusely at the mouth when nothing at all has been
given. My hands are a total mess.

And of course he still won't eat or drink - at least, I haven't seen him
do
so, and I don't think he's sneaking food, because he continues growing
thinner. Being that it's so very difficult to administer anything, I've
started injecting 50cc of 0.45% saline solution under the skin once a day,
and he's starting to get impatient with that. I might be able to get away
with it one or two more times before it becomes as difficult as giving
water
by mouth with a syringe.

I guess it's up to him, now, to either get well or die, because he won't
let
me do much of anything aimed at keeping him alive.




Still purring here.

--
Theresa, Stinky and Dante
drtmuirATearthlink.net

Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh

If you have any brains left at all, don't post us describing Aby's
death throes. You sicken me, bigtime. "Up to him".......my God.

Did you miss yesterday afternoon's post about her talk with the vet? Where
the vet told her to not force feed and give it 24 hours?

Calm the f**k down! Everybody, I really don't care whether you like Pat or
not, the fact is that she's talking to the vet regularly and taking the
cat in to see the vet when appropriate. She's being diligent about caring
about Abelard. He went in to see the vet several times - first to an
a**hole vet, then to a better vet. And Pat has been in touch with the vet
by telephone often.

Abelard is in the position many sick cats are - if they want to get
better, they will. If they don't, they won't. If a cat doesn't want to get
better, nothing the vet can do will make a difference.

For some reason, a lot of folks seem to get enraged about Pat. I don't get
it. I know some people have had personal conflicts with her, but please,
don't drag them up here. We've got enough nasty crap going on without
personal attacks taking place on RPCA. PLEASE! Everybody just take a deep
breath and chill. I'm sorry if I **** some people off, but I depend on
RPCA and it's a major part of my life, and I get ****ed off myself when
people get nasty here. This is the internet, folks - take a deep breath
and chill. And if you really don't like to read what Pat writes, or what I
write, then use your kill file. Don't bombard the rest of us.

Dan

Daniel Mahoney wrote:
If you have any brains left at all, don't post us describing Aby's
death throes. You sicken me, bigtime. "Up to him".......my God.

Did you miss yesterday afternoon's post about her talk with the vet?
Where the vet told her to not force feed and give it 24 hours?

Calm the f**k down! Everybody, I really don't care whether you like
Pat or not, the fact is that she's talking to the vet regularly

For some reason, a lot of folks seem to get enraged about Pat. I
don't get it. I know some people have had personal conflicts with
her, but please, don't drag them up here.

While I understand your position (and am happy she's in regular contact with
the vet), Pat herself dragged up all the personal issues. I'm minding my
own business, reading posts, when I suddenly find her talking about *me*,
dragging up something that happened years ago. This despite the fact I
haven't said boo to her since she stormed out of the group... how long ago
now? I'm not about to sit on my hands and take something like that without
responding, especially since she has a highly selective memory.

We've got enough nasty crap
going on without personal attacks taking place on RPCA. PLEASE!

I respect your feelings, Dan, which is why I stopped reading or replying to
any of
HER posts. I wish Abelard the best. Pat I couldn't care less about.

Jill

I was so right about your character when I let you adopt Harri, Lee
Daniel Mahoney wrote in message
news
If you have any brains left at all, don't post us describing Aby's
death throes. You sicken me, bigtime. "Up to him".......my God.

Did you miss yesterday afternoon's post about her talk with the vet? Where
the vet told her to not force feed and give it 24 hours?

Calm the f**k down! Everybody, I really don't care whether you like Pat or
not, the fact is that she's talking to the vet regularly and taking the
cat in to see the vet when appropriate. She's being diligent about caring
about Abelard. He went in to see the vet several times - first to an
a**hole vet, then to a better vet. And Pat has been in touch with the vet
by telephone often.

Abelard is in the position many sick cats are - if they want to get
better, they will. If they don't, they won't. If a cat doesn't want to get
better, nothing the vet can do will make a difference.

For some reason, a lot of folks seem to get enraged about Pat. I don't get
it. I know some people have had personal conflicts with her, but please,
don't drag them up here. We've got enough nasty crap going on without
personal attacks taking place on RPCA. PLEASE! Everybody just take a deep
breath and chill. I'm sorry if I **** some people off, but I depend on
RPCA and it's a major part of my life, and I get ****ed off myself when
people get nasty here. This is the internet, folks - take a deep breath
and chill. And if you really don't like to read what Pat writes, or what I
write, then use your kill file. Don't bombard the rest of us.

Dan

But at the same time you've not posted nastiness directed her where we all
have to read it. Thank you! That's all I'm asking for.

I realize that Pat has initiated some of the nastiness. I'm just asking
that if people really, really feel a need to post nastiness, that they
consider doing it via e-mail. When I see that kind of nastiness I
generally just click "Ignore Thread" but I'm not willing to do that when
the health of a kitty is in question. If you must handle the post via
Usenet, please do something like labeling the post with "PERSONAL:" at the
start of the subject so that those of us who don't want to read the
nastiness don't have to.

This group is like a family. Most of the people generally get along really
well. A few of the people don't. And like in family gatherings, the folks
who don't get along really ought to air their differences in private, not
subject the rest of the family to the violence.

To those who have repressed their urges to post unkind or angry messages,
thank you, thank you, thank you.

Dan

"Daniel Mahoney" wrote in message
news
If you have any brains left at all, don't post us describing Aby's
death throes. You sicken me, bigtime. "Up to him".......my God.

Did you miss yesterday afternoon's post about her talk with the vet? Where
the vet told her to not force feed and give it 24 hours?

Calm the f**k down! Everybody, I really don't care whether you like Pat or
not, the fact is that she's talking to the vet regularly and taking the
cat in to see the vet when appropriate. She's being diligent about caring
about Abelard. He went in to see the vet several times - first to an
a**hole vet, then to a better vet. And Pat has been in touch with the vet
by telephone often.

Abelard is in the position many sick cats are - if they want to get
better, they will. If they don't, they won't. If a cat doesn't want to get
better, nothing the vet can do will make a difference.

The vet can give an animal a peaceful, merciful death. Allowing an animal
to suffer and die on its own is a horrible thing to envisage. Starving to
death is *not* painless. Knowing that Hunter died at home alone, even
though we were told it was probably instantaneous and painless, still haunts
us with "what ifs" and "we should haves".


For some reason, a lot of folks seem to get enraged about Pat. I don't get
it. I know some people have had personal conflicts with her, but please,
don't drag them up here. We've got enough nasty crap going on without
personal attacks taking place on RPCA. PLEASE! Everybody just take a deep
breath and chill. I'm sorry if I **** some people off, but I depend on
RPCA and it's a major part of my life, and I get ****ed off myself when
people get nasty here. This is the internet, folks - take a deep breath
and chill. And if you really don't like to read what Pat writes, or what I
write, then use your kill file. Don't bombard the rest of us.

Dan

Dan, I love you dearly, but please don't ask anyone here to ignore the
torture Pat is making Abelard endure. Hopitus is rightfully angry at Pat's
dramatic posts describing Abelard's decline - it is excruciating to witness
this even second hand. Yes we can killfile Pat, but does that help
Abelard - do we just ignore his suffering? I know Pat is your friend, and
as her friend maybe you should advise her on ending Abelard's suffering
rather than defending her actions and chastising someone for caring about
Abelard.

Hugs,

CatNipped

"Daniel Mahoney" wrote

| To those who have repressed their urges to post unkind or angry messages,
| thank you, thank you, thank you.

I concur. And thank *you* Dan.

I guess I wasn't pay close enough attention to the kitty, or the right kind
of attention. What I needed to do was to "read" him with more sensitivity,
and shortly after making the last post, I "tuned in" as best I could, and
learned that what he really wanted to go out and absorb some natural
sunlight. So we went hunting.

I got a few strange looks from passersby as I crawled around in the grass
with Aby. He was absolutely thrilled to be out, strolling and rolling around
in the grass, purring up a storm, headbutting me over and over and
exercising his claws on anything that looked inviting. After a while, I
slipped into the kitchen and grabbed a knife and the package of salmon I had
thawed last night for my lunch. I figured if he's gonna eat anything, this
would be it. And I was right, he devoured the salmon greedily with no
encouragement from me!

So I think he really needs is to be out in nature regularly. They all do. I
*must* get that fence finished!!

"Pat" wrote in message
et...
It's still touch-and-go with the Aby cat.

He's getting around much better, but he seems to have a "head cold" and
it's
become all but impossible to get anything into his stomach. I've never
seen
anything like the behavior he's exhibiting. There's no way to get a pill
into him now. Just absolutely no way. You can't even get close to his
mouth
with one, he thrashes so violently and snaps, bites anything in the
vicinity, and foams profusely at the mouth when nothing at all has been
given. My hands are a total mess.

And of course he still won't eat or drink - at least, I haven't seen him
do
so, and I don't think he's sneaking food, because he continues growing
thinner. Being that it's so very difficult to administer anything, I've
started injecting 50cc of 0.45% saline solution under the skin once a day,
and he's starting to get impatient with that. I might be able to get away
with it one or two more times before it becomes as difficult as giving
water
by mouth with a syringe.

I guess it's up to him, now, to either get well or die, because he won't
let
me do much of anything aimed at keeping him alive.



It was at that stage you are at now, when KFC refused to let me syringe feed
her or give her her oral antibiotics a few weeks ago that I had her admitted
to hospital.
She would not eat because her nose was blocked with mucus and she could not
smell her food. You have the double whammy of the ear thing going on which
can cause nausea. Kitty had the double whammy of her CRF. She is frail
anyway and was losing weight at an alarming rate.
The vet told me afterwards that if I had not done so she would have died.
Today she was sunbatheing in the flower bed.
I'm afraid if you cannot get Abelard eating very soon, or get him as an
inpatient at the vet so he can get his nutrition via a drip for a few days
you will have to seriously consider his future. Which you know, of course.
Either he has to get some nutrition into him (which I could not do for KFC
and you now can't do for Abelard) or you'll have to have him put to sleep.
You cannot let him starve.
I know it sounds harsh. I'd like to say your remedies will cure him, but I
doubt they will at this stage. My heart goes out to you in this situation.

Tweed