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  #51  
Old June 11th 09, 05:13 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
Calvin
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On Jun 11, 11:53*am, "Matthew"
wrote:
"calvin" wrote:
On Jun 11, 11:01 am, "Matthew"
wrote:

And you posted 1 time in October of 2007 and 6 times in June of 2008
talking
about your cat dying suddenly. You have never been productive in this
group. If you had been Phil would have known how to deal with you.


2005 2006

I was here under a different addy also than. * Phil would have definitely
know how to deal with you if it was that long ago. *SO would I


So you're claiming that I'm lying about posting here
in 2005 and 2006? If you could look up posts from
2007 and 2008, why can't you look up posts from
2005 and 2006?
  #52  
Old June 11th 09, 05:38 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
Matthew[_3_]
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"calvin" wrote in message
...
On Jun 11, 11:53 am, "Matthew"
wrote:
"calvin" wrote:
On Jun 11, 11:01 am, "Matthew"
wrote:

And you posted 1 time in October of 2007 and 6 times in June of 2008
talking
about your cat dying suddenly. You have never been productive in this
group. If you had been Phil would have known how to deal with you.


2005 2006

I was here under a different addy also than. Phil would have definitely
know how to deal with you if it was that long ago. SO would I


So you're claiming that I'm lying about posting here
in 2005 and 2006? If you could look up posts from
2007 and 2008, why can't you look up posts from
2005 and 2006?

No I said you were never productive there is a difference But I forgot to
spell it out in crayons for you.

Plus I already you already proved you were a liar. You said you would not
respond to me cybercat or MLB again. Remember this just a couple days ago
"Have a nice life. I'm not going to respond to anything else that you write
(or 'cybercat' either, or MLB)."

But since that I do know how to use the internet properly. I did find Calvin
Rice.

The only thing I claim about you is that you can cause a head ache from a
1000 miles away and that you are SLOW.

And After looking at past. The funny thing is you actually took the groups
advice about Jasmine.

What happened you weren't "slow" back than. That is a rhetorical question
not to be answered


  #53  
Old June 11th 09, 06:09 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
Calvin
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On Jun 11, 12:38*pm, "Matthew"
wrote:
"calvin" wrote:
On Jun 11, 11:53 am, "Matthew"
wrote:
"calvin" wrote:
On Jun 11, 11:01 am, "Matthew"
wrote:
And you posted 1 time in October of 2007 and 6 times in June of 2008
talking
about your cat dying suddenly. You have never been productive in this
group. If you had been Phil would have known how to deal with you.


2005 2006


I was here under a different addy also than. Phil would have definitely
know how to deal with you if it was that long ago. SO would I


So you're claiming that I'm lying about posting here
in 2005 and 2006? *If you could look up posts from
2007 and 2008, why can't you look up posts from
2005 and 2006?

*No I said you were never productive there is a difference *But I forgot to
spell it out in crayons for you.

*Plus I already you already proved you were a liar. *You said you would not
respond to me cybercat or MLB again. *Remember this just a couple days ago
"Have a nice life. *I'm not going to respond to anything else that you write
(or 'cybercat' either, or MLB)."

But since that I do know how to use the internet properly. I did find Calvin
Rice.

The only thing I claim about you is that you can cause a head ache from a
1000 miles away and that you are SLOW.

And After looking at past. *The funny thing is you actually took the groups
advice about Jasmine.

What happened *you weren't "slow" back than. *That is a rhetorical question
not to be answered


I have to respond when you post things that are not true.
You said I posted only in 2007 and 2008. I had to respond
to that. I don't know anything about 'Jasmine', by the way.

In 2005 someone I knew was going to have a pregnant cat
spayed. I was horrified that such a barbaric atrocity was
going to be done to a mother and her soon to be born kittens.
So I volunteered to take the cat and keep her in a back room
at my place, let her have her kittens, and then after the
kittens were weaned at the proper time, I would have the
mother spayed, and return her after she had recovered.
The mother was also cured by my vet of a couple of
afflictions.

Before the kittens were born I was called a murderer by
some people here, because they said some cats who were
already alive would lose their chances at homes because
I was bringing new cats into the world. One person said
I disgusted her. I was shown pictures of piles of euthanized
cats, and I was being blamed for it.

But no cats were denied homes because these kittens were
born. I kept them all, to go with my other four cats. I
couldn't inflict six new cats on the neighborhood, so in 2006
I had a fence built around a very large area of my backyard,
and then I made it cat proof. On winter nights I sleep
downstairs in a bed full of cats next to a nice radiator heater.

Here are their pictures:

http://www.geocities.com/ricewww/crcats.html
  #54  
Old June 11th 09, 07:25 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
Phil P.
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"calvin" wrote in message
...
On Jun 11, 9:12 am, "Phil P." wrote:
"calvin" wrote:
Thank you. You said that as if I was just automatically
supposed to have known what "Oral interferon works by binding
to mucosal receptors in the oropharynx where it triggers
the release of cytokines" meant.


Silly me- I assumed you had a basic understanding of simple high school
biology. OK, I'll try to explain this in terms you should understand: The
outer dry surface of the body is called "skin". The moist surfaces of the
mouth and throat are called mucus membrane or "mucosa" because it

secretes
mucus. The receptors to which interferon binds are located in the mucosa

at
the back of the mouth and beginning of the throat. Are you still with me?
Mixing interferon in food would have the same effect as gargling with
mouthwash while there's food in your mouth. With food in your mouth, very
little mouthwash would reach the mucus membrane of your mouth where the
germs are. You want the interferon to come in direct contact with the
mucosal surfaces in the mouth and throat. OK?


Okay, and I will ask no more questions. Obviously you know
very much about cats, but it would be better to find answers
from someone who is not so hostile and insulting, and from some
place other than this forum, which has declined into negativity
during the past few years since I was last productively involved
with it. Best wishes to you all, though.


When you find that someone and someplace, you might get more cordial replies
if you don't ask the same question over and over after you've given an
answer and other information that's backed up with credible references.

Please convey my sympathies to your cat.


  #55  
Old June 11th 09, 07:26 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
MLB
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calvin wrote:
On Jun 11, 12:38 pm, "Matthew"
wrote:
"calvin" wrote:
On Jun 11, 11:53 am, "Matthew"
wrote:
"calvin" wrote:
On Jun 11, 11:01 am, "Matthew"
wrote:
And you posted 1 time in October of 2007 and 6 times in June of 2008
talking
about your cat dying suddenly. You have never been productive in this
group. If you had been Phil would have known how to deal with you.
2005 2006
I was here under a different addy also than. Phil would have definitely
know how to deal with you if it was that long ago. SO would I

So you're claiming that I'm lying about posting here
in 2005 and 2006? If you could look up posts from
2007 and 2008, why can't you look up posts from
2005 and 2006?

No I said you were never productive there is a difference But I forgot to
spell it out in crayons for you.

Plus I already you already proved you were a liar. You said you would not
respond to me cybercat or MLB again. Remember this just a couple days ago
"Have a nice life. I'm not going to respond to anything else that you write
(or 'cybercat' either, or MLB)."

But since that I do know how to use the internet properly. I did find Calvin
Rice.

The only thing I claim about you is that you can cause a head ache from a
1000 miles away and that you are SLOW.

And After looking at past. The funny thing is you actually took the groups
advice about Jasmine.

What happened you weren't "slow" back than. That is a rhetorical question
not to be answered


I have to respond when you post things that are not true.
You said I posted only in 2007 and 2008. I had to respond
to that. I don't know anything about 'Jasmine', by the way.

In 2005 someone I knew was going to have a pregnant cat
spayed. I was horrified that such a barbaric atrocity was
going to be done to a mother and her soon to be born kittens.
So I volunteered to take the cat and keep her in a back room
at my place, let her have her kittens, and then after the
kittens were weaned at the proper time, I would have the
mother spayed, and return her after she had recovered.
The mother was also cured by my vet of a couple of
afflictions.

Before the kittens were born I was called a murderer by
some people here, because they said some cats who were
already alive would lose their chances at homes because
I was bringing new cats into the world. One person said
I disgusted her. I was shown pictures of piles of euthanized
cats, and I was being blamed for it.

But no cats were denied homes because these kittens were
born. I kept them all, to go with my other four cats. I
couldn't inflict six new cats on the neighborhood, so in 2006
I had a fence built around a very large area of my backyard,
and then I made it cat proof. On winter nights I sleep
downstairs in a bed full of cats next to a nice radiator heater.

Here are their pictures:

http://www.geocities.com/ricewww/crcats.html




Like I said: Trolling! At least you got some of the attention you were
seeking. It could have been done in a better way. Purrs for your
cats. MLB
  #56  
Old June 12th 09, 06:19 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
Calvin
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On Jun 11, 2:25*pm, "Phil P." wrote:
"calvin" wrote in message

...
On Jun 11, 9:12 am, "Phil P." wrote:





"calvin" wrote:
Thank you. You said that as if I was just automatically
supposed to have known what "Oral interferon works by binding
to mucosal receptors in the oropharynx where it triggers
the release of cytokines" meant.


Silly me- I assumed you had a basic understanding of simple high school
biology. OK, I'll try to explain this in terms you should understand: The
outer dry surface of the body is called "skin". The moist surfaces of the
mouth and throat are called mucus membrane or "mucosa" because it

secretes
mucus. The receptors to which interferon binds are located in the mucosa

at
the back of the mouth and beginning of the throat. Are you still with me?
Mixing interferon in food would have the same effect as gargling with
mouthwash while there's food in your mouth. With food in your mouth, very
little mouthwash would reach the mucus membrane of your mouth where the
germs are. You want the interferon to come in direct contact with the
mucosal surfaces in the mouth and throat. OK?

Okay, and I will ask no more questions. *Obviously you know
very much about cats, but it would be better to find answers
from someone who is not so hostile and insulting, and from some
place other than this forum, which has declined into negativity
during the past few years since I was last productively involved
with it. *Best wishes to you all, though.


When you find that someone and someplace, you might get more cordial replies
if you don't ask the same question over and over after you've *given an
answer and other information that's backed up with credible references.

Please convey my sympathies to your cat.


One final snide, nasty insult, based on a false
assumption that I'm going to harm this stray tomcat,
who already has greatly benefitted by coming into
contact with me, just shows that you are an ego
dominated soul, not very pretty in a teacher.
  #57  
Old June 12th 09, 09:59 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
Phil P.
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"calvin" wrote in message
...
On Jun 11, 2:25 pm, "Phil P." wrote:
"calvin" wrote in message

...
On Jun 11, 9:12 am, "Phil P." wrote:





"calvin" wrote:
Thank you. You said that as if I was just automatically
supposed to have known what "Oral interferon works by binding
to mucosal receptors in the oropharynx where it triggers
the release of cytokines" meant.


.. Silly me- I assumed you had a basic understanding of simple high
school
biology. OK, I'll try to explain this in terms you should understand:

The
outer dry surface of the body is called "skin". The moist surfaces of

the
mouth and throat are called mucus membrane or "mucosa" because it

secretes
mucus. The receptors to which interferon binds are located in the

mucosa
at
the back of the mouth and beginning of the throat. Are you still with

me?
Mixing interferon in food would have the same effect as gargling with

.. mouthwash while there's food in your mouth. With food in your mouth,
very
little mouthwash would reach the mucus membrane of your mouth where

the
germs are. You want the interferon to come in direct contact with the
mucosal surfaces in the mouth and throat. OK?


Okay, and I will ask no more questions. Obviously you know
very much about cats, but it would be better to find answers
from someone who is not so hostile and insulting, and from some
place other than this forum, which has declined into negativity
during the past few years since I was last productively involved
with it. Best wishes to you all, though.


When you find that someone and someplace, you might get more cordial

replies
if you don't ask the same question over and over after you've given an
answer and other information that's backed up with credible references.


Please convey my sympathies to your cat.


One final snide, nasty insult, based on a false
assumption that I'm going to harm this stray tomcat,
who already has greatly benefitted by coming into
contact with me,


He would benefit a lot more if you weren't so obtuse.


just shows that you are an ego
dominated soul,



Naa- I just have very little tolerance for obtuse and obstinate people.



not very pretty in a teacher.


I'm a printer not a teacher.

Well, unless you have more questions about your cat that you'd like me to
answer over and over and over and over, that's about it for me.


  #58  
Old June 12th 09, 01:20 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
Calvin
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On Jun 12, 4:59*am, "Phil P." wrote:
I'm a printer not a teacher.


Here you are a teacher.

Well, unless you have more questions about your cat that you'd like me to
answer over and over and over and over, that's about it for me.


A boring exercize that would nevertheless be instructive
to you would be to read my posts in this thread by
themselves one after another, without reading your or
anyone else's comments along with them. You would
see how harmless mine have been. The facts about this
whole exchange, including the previous thread, a

1) I took your advice and started using interferon,
though seven days after the vet prescribed it.

2) I retroactively accepted everything you had told me.

3) I asked if I was doing the interferon right, was
corrected, and accepted the correction.

4) I objected to being insulted, but every time I objected,
was told how obtuse I am, even though the obtuseness
had been way back before I accepted everything you
said. You seem to interpret objecting to being insulted
as being more obtuse, so your insults will never end
until I shut up and accept them.
  #59  
Old June 12th 09, 05:09 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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"Phil P." wrote
Naa- I just have very little tolerance for obtuse and obstinate people.


I think you have shown tremendous patience with Calvin, Phil. You have
mellowed!


  #60  
Old June 13th 09, 08:59 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
Phil P.
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"cybercat" wrote in message
...

"Phil P." wrote
Naa- I just have very little tolerance for obtuse and obstinate people.


I think you have shown tremendous patience with Calvin, Phil. You have
mellowed!


I might be mellowing- or just exhausted- its kitten season... again. It
doesn't seem like last year's kitten season ever ended. You know times must
be really bad when people throw away kittens like these:

http://maxshouse.com/Abandoned/Siamese_Kits_DSC8028.jpg
http://maxshouse.com/Abandoned/Siamese_Kit_DSC8025.jpg
http://maxshouse.com/Abandoned/parkinglotkittens.jpg


I tried to be patient with Calvin because I realized he only grasps about a
quarter of what he reads- that's why I had to repeat the same stuff over and
over before he was able to put it all together. I think he wants to do the
right thing but since he only grasps a fraction of what he hears or reads he
has trouble trying to decide what the right thing is. I gave up on him when
he started whining about feeling insulted.



 




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