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cat-proof latch
Suddenly, without warning, Hactar exclaimed (5/28/2009 11:43 PM):
In article , MLB wrote: Hactar wrote: We have sliding (pocket) doors connecting the "catty" and (ostensibly) "non-catty" sides of the house. So, is there anything that can reliably keep the cats in their half the house? I'm thinking about a latch for the doors. The sticking point is finding something that's easy for humans and impossible for cats, can be operated from both sides, and doesn't make it look like we're in a prison. How about a hook and eye near the top of the door? Not beautiful but it would work. Hook and eye is inoperable by cats, especially these cats. It can't be higher than a seated person can reach, but about as high as a doorknob should be OK. It'd have to have enough slack in the mechanism to allow a hand through so you could work it from both sides; I dunno if you can do that unless your hook is long enough to allow enough of a cat through to put significant force on the mounting. Nah - just add a bit of stiff wire to the hook so that it sticks thru to the other side - then the door only needs to open wide enough for the bit of wire. jmc |
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Hactar wrote:
In article , MLB wrote: Hactar wrote: We have sliding (pocket) doors connecting the "catty" and (ostensibly) "non-catty" sides of the house. So, is there anything that can reliably keep the cats in their half the house? I'm thinking about a latch for the doors. The sticking point is finding something that's easy for humans and impossible for cats, can be operated from both sides, and doesn't make it look like we're in a prison. How about a hook and eye near the top of the door? Not beautiful but it would work. Hook and eye is inoperable by cats, especially these cats. It can't be higher than a seated person can reach, but about as high as a doorknob should be OK. It'd have to have enough slack in the mechanism to allow a hand through so you could work it from both sides; I dunno if you can do that unless your hook is long enough to allow enough of a cat through to put significant force on the mounting. You could put one on each side. MLB |
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In article , MLB wrote:
Hactar wrote: In article , MLB wrote: Hactar wrote: We have sliding (pocket) doors connecting the "catty" and (ostensibly) "non-catty" sides of the house. So, is there anything that can reliably keep the cats in their half the house? I'm thinking about a latch for the doors. The sticking point is finding something that's easy for humans and impossible for cats, can be operated from both sides, and doesn't make it look like we're in a prison. How about a hook and eye near the top of the door? Not beautiful but it would work. Hook and eye is inoperable by cats, especially these cats. It can't be higher than a seated person can reach, but about as high as a doorknob should be OK. It'd have to have enough slack in the mechanism to allow a hand through so you could work it from both sides; I dunno if you can do that unless your hook is long enough to allow enough of a cat through to put significant force on the mounting. You could put one on each side. MLB They'd have to be linked. If the inner one is locked, you're blocked from entering the room unless you can change it somehow. Anyhow, I got some refills for my Ssscats and made them pretty well untippable (and un-accidently-reaimable), so I'll see if that works. -- The mnky gibbering and screeching used to keep me up at night, although in the lst week or so it's prtty mch tailed off to nthng. The smell has gttn noticbly worse in the last cple of days, too. The next time I get a barrl full of mnkys, I'm going to try taking the lid off. -groo, AFCA |
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On Fri, 29 May 2009 18:01:36 -0600, MLB wrote:
Hactar wrote: In article , MLB wrote: Hactar wrote: We have sliding (pocket) doors connecting the "catty" and (ostensibly) "non-catty" sides of the house. So, is there anything that can reliably keep the cats in their half the house? I'm thinking about a latch for the doors. The sticking point is finding something that's easy for humans and impossible for cats, can be operated from both sides, and doesn't make it look like we're in a prison. How about a hook and eye near the top of the door? Not beautiful but it would work. Hook and eye is inoperable by cats, especially these cats. It can't be higher than a seated person can reach, but about as high as a doorknob should be OK. It'd have to have enough slack in the mechanism to allow a hand through so you could work it from both sides; I dunno if you can do that unless your hook is long enough to allow enough of a cat through to put significant force on the mounting. You could put one on each side. MLB Is this a joke? Close the door. Want some thing easy for humans but impossible for cats? There's a lovely invention that has been around for centuries. It's called a door knob. |
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AZ Nomad wrote:
On Fri, 29 May 2009 18:01:36 -0600, MLB wrote: Hactar wrote: In article , MLB wrote: Hactar wrote: We have sliding (pocket) doors connecting the "catty" and (ostensibly) "non-catty" sides of the house. So, is there anything that can reliably keep the cats in their half the house? I'm thinking about a latch for the doors. The sticking point is finding something that's easy for humans and impossible for cats, can be operated from both sides, and doesn't make it look like we're in a prison. How about a hook and eye near the top of the door? Not beautiful but it would work. Hook and eye is inoperable by cats, especially these cats. It can't be higher than a seated person can reach, but about as high as a doorknob should be OK. It'd have to have enough slack in the mechanism to allow a hand through so you could work it from both sides; I dunno if you can do that unless your hook is long enough to allow enough of a cat through to put significant force on the mounting. You could put one on each side. MLB Is this a joke? Close the door. Want some thing easy for humans but impossible for cats? There's a lovely invention that has been around for centuries. It's called a door knob. He said this is a pocket door -- no knobs. MLB |
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On Fri, 29 May 2009 18:38:34 -0600, MLB wrote:
AZ Nomad wrote: On Fri, 29 May 2009 18:01:36 -0600, MLB wrote: Hactar wrote: In article , MLB wrote: Hactar wrote: We have sliding (pocket) doors connecting the "catty" and (ostensibly) "non-catty" sides of the house. So, is there anything that can reliably keep the cats in their half the house? I'm thinking about a latch for the doors. The sticking point is finding something that's easy for humans and impossible for cats, can be operated from both sides, and doesn't make it look like we're in a prison. How about a hook and eye near the top of the door? Not beautiful but it would work. Hook and eye is inoperable by cats, especially these cats. It can't be higher than a seated person can reach, but about as high as a doorknob should be OK. It'd have to have enough slack in the mechanism to allow a hand through so you could work it from both sides; I dunno if you can do that unless your hook is long enough to allow enough of a cat through to put significant force on the mounting. You could put one on each side. MLB Is this a joke? Close the door. Want some thing easy for humans but impossible for cats? There's a lovely invention that has been around for centuries. It's called a door knob. He said this is a pocket door -- no knobs. MLB thanks. I knew I must have missed something. There are locks available for pocket doors. https://www.hardwareworld.com/334-10...k-pYB7J88.aspx http://www.johnsonhardware.com/1521.htm http://www.handlesets.com/index.cfm?...categoryID=269 |
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In article ,
AZ Nomad wrote: On Fri, 29 May 2009 18:01:36 -0600, MLB wrote: Hactar wrote: In article , MLB wrote: Hactar wrote: We have sliding (pocket) doors connecting the "catty" and (ostensibly) "non-catty" sides of the house. So, is there anything that can reliably keep the cats in their half the house? I'm thinking about a latch for the doors. The sticking point is finding something that's easy for humans and impossible for cats, can be operated from both sides, and doesn't make it look like we're in a prison. How about a hook and eye near the top of the door? Not beautiful but it would work. Hook and eye is inoperable by cats, especially these cats. It can't be higher than a seated person can reach, but about as high as a doorknob should be OK. It'd have to have enough slack in the mechanism to allow a hand through so you could work it from both sides; I dunno if you can do that unless your hook is long enough to allow enough of a cat through to put significant force on the mounting. You could put one on each side. MLB Is this a joke? Close the door. Won't stay closed under cat assault. Note in the first sentence where I stated that these are "sliding (pocket) doors". They don't have strong latches. Want some thing easy for humans but impossible for cats? There's a lovely invention that has been around for centuries. It's called a door knob. See my previous paragraph. -- -eben P http://royalty.mine.nu:81 GEMINI: Your birthday party will be ruined once again by your explosive flatulence. Your love life will run into trouble when your fiancee hurls a javelin through your chest. -- Weird Al, _Your Horoscope for Today_ |
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On Fri, 29 May 2009 21:34:04 -0400, Hactar wrote:
In article , AZ Nomad wrote: On Fri, 29 May 2009 18:38:34 -0600, MLB wrote: AZ Nomad wrote: On Fri, 29 May 2009 18:01:36 -0600, MLB wrote: Hactar wrote: In article , MLB wrote: Hactar wrote: We have sliding (pocket) doors connecting the "catty" and (ostensibly) "non-catty" sides of the house. So, is there anything that can reliably keep the cats in their half the house? I'm thinking about a latch for the doors. The sticking point is finding something that's easy for humans and impossible for cats, can be operated from both sides, and doesn't make it look like we're in a prison. How about a hook and eye near the top of the door? Not beautiful but it would work. Hook and eye is inoperable by cats, especially these cats. It can't be higher than a seated person can reach, but about as high as a doorknob should be OK. It'd have to have enough slack in the mechanism to allow a hand through so you could work it from both sides; I dunno if you can do that unless your hook is long enough to allow enough of a cat through to put significant force on the mounting. You could put one on each side. MLB Is this a joke? Close the door. Want some thing easy for humans but impossible for cats? There's a lovely invention that has been around for centuries. It's called a door knob. He said this is a pocket door -- no knobs. MLB thanks. I knew I must have missed something. There are locks available for pocket doors. https://www.hardwareworld.com/334-10...k-pYB7J88.aspx 2nd quoted paragraph, 4th line. This is only operable from one side, assuming it's like the similar-looking one from Kwikset. (I checked.) http://www.johnsonhardware.com/1521.htm Interesting. I'll look into it. http://www.handlesets.com/index.cfm?...categoryID=269 Appears to have the lock mechanism on only one side: "Pre-assembled for doors opening left to right. Plates are reversible." If the mechanism were on both sides, it wouldn't _need_ to be reversed. They can be nonsymetrical yet be accessible from either side. It depends on the shape of the striker. The ones I've seen can be opened from either side, but only locked from one side. |
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Hactar wrote:
In article , MLB wrote: Hactar wrote: In article , MLB wrote: Hactar wrote: We have sliding (pocket) doors connecting the "catty" and (ostensibly) "non-catty" sides of the house. So, is there anything that can reliably keep the cats in their half the house? I'm thinking about a latch for the doors. The sticking point is finding something that's easy for humans and impossible for cats, can be operated from both sides, and doesn't make it look like we're in a prison. How about a hook and eye near the top of the door? Not beautiful but it would work. Hook and eye is inoperable by cats, especially these cats. It can't be higher than a seated person can reach, but about as high as a doorknob should be OK. It'd have to have enough slack in the mechanism to allow a hand through so you could work it from both sides; I dunno if you can do that unless your hook is long enough to allow enough of a cat through to put significant force on the mounting. You could put one on each side. MLB They'd have to be linked. If the inner one is locked, you're blocked from entering the room unless you can change it somehow. Anyhow, I got some refills for my Ssscats and made them pretty well untippable (and un-accidently-reaimable), so I'll see if that works. How many people going in and out? If there is only one person, there is no proble,. MLB |
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In article , MLB wrote:
Hactar wrote: In article , MLB wrote: Hactar wrote: In article , MLB wrote: Hactar wrote: We have sliding (pocket) doors connecting the "catty" and (ostensibly) "non-catty" sides of the house. So, is there anything that can reliably keep the cats in their half the house? I'm thinking about a latch for the doors. The sticking point is finding something that's easy for humans and impossible for cats, can be operated from both sides, and doesn't make it look like we're in a prison. How about a hook and eye near the top of the door? Not beautiful but it would work. Hook and eye is inoperable by cats, especially these cats. It can't be higher than a seated person can reach, but about as high as a doorknob should be OK. It'd have to have enough slack in the mechanism to allow a hand through so you could work it from both sides; I dunno if you can do that unless your hook is long enough to allow enough of a cat through to put significant force on the mounting. You could put one on each side. MLB They'd have to be linked. If the inner one is locked, you're blocked from entering the room unless you can change it somehow. Anyhow, I got some refills for my Ssscats and made them pretty well untippable (and un-accidently-reaimable), so I'll see if that works. How many people going in and out? If there is only one person, there is no proble,. MLB Three. Cat #1 waits halfway across the room, then darts through the door if she sees it open. (She's deaf, so she can't hear you approach it.) If you're carrying something, there's by far room for a cat to get through. Cat #2 waits until someone (e.g. Cat #1) leaves the door open and then goes through. -- -eben P royalty.mine.nu:81 Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." -- Albert Einstein |
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