Our New Children

Our New Children: The Surrogate Role of Companion Animals in Women's Lives

by Wendy G. Turner

http://www.nova.edu/ssss/QR/QR6-1/turner.html

On Mon, 30 May 2005 04:48:53 GMT, "Philip"
wrote:

More hate from
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"John Ross Mc Master" wrote in message
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On Mon, 30 May 2005 04:48:53 GMT, "Philip"
wrote:

More hate from
IP # 64.203.38.114

John, are you still reading this dickhead's posts?

On Mon, 30 May 2005 01:05:07 -0400, "Mary" wrote:


"John Ross Mc Master" wrote in message
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On Mon, 30 May 2005 04:48:53 GMT, "Philip"
wrote:

More hate from
IP # 64.203.38.114

John, are you still reading this dickhead's posts?

I've been in newsgroups for 10 years but this Los Angeles area pile of
**** got to me.
All I can say is,


IP # 64.203.38.114

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Also, he killed Rusty last month.

John Ross Mc Master wrote:

Also, he killed Rusty last month.

Who is Rusty? I haven't really been following his posts much.

Candace

Candace wrote:
John Ross Mc Master wrote:

Also, he killed Rusty last month.

Who is Rusty? I haven't really been following his posts much.

Candace

I can't wait to read the next installment by JR. Really! :^)

On Mon, 30 May 2005 05:56:13 GMT, "Philip"
wrote:

Candace wrote:
John Ross Mc Master wrote:

Also, he killed Rusty last month.

Who is Rusty? I haven't really been following his posts much.

Candace

I can't wait to read the next installment by JR. Really! :^)




IP # 64.203.38.114

OrgAbuseName: ABUSE TEAM
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in article . net, Philip at
wrote on 5/29/05 11:48 PM:

Our New Children: The Surrogate Role of Companion Animals in Women's Lives

by Wendy G. Turner

http://www.nova.edu/ssss/QR/QR6-1/turner.html



Hmm. Mildly interesting. Not a very big field of study participants. I don't
think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out that people view their pets
as companions and closer to children. I mean, look at all the products for
them! My living room definitely looks about as toy filled as someone with
kids. I think it's too bad they don't look more at men, who probably suffer
more with pet loss because it is somewhat socially acceptable for women to
grieve pet death and I sometimes wonder if men aren't at a disadvantage
there with people understanding how hard it is for them, since they are not
seen as the "care givers". And yet, online, I have noticed that sometimes
men seem at least if not more distraught. A support group is sure the key.
I'm very lucky because when Grant died not only my friends and my online
friends extremely supportive, but my co-workers absolutely treated me as
though I had lost a child and were completely sympathetic and helpful in
understanding my feelings and could tell when my grief was affecting me,
probably more so than I did.

in article , Candace at
wrote on 5/30/05 12:25AM:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:

Also, he killed Rusty last month.

Who is Rusty? I haven't really been following his posts much.

Candace

Hmm. Boy, I guess it pays to skip posts. I have no idea. The article was
mildly interesting.

Karen wrote:
in article . net,
Philip at wrote on 5/29/05 11:48 PM:

Our New Children: The Surrogate Role of Companion Animals in
Women's Lives

by Wendy G. Turner

http://www.nova.edu/ssss/QR/QR6-1/turner.html



Hmm. Mildly interesting. Not a very big field of study participants.
I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out that people
view their pets as companions and closer to children. I mean, look at
all the products for them! My living room definitely looks about as
toy filled as someone with kids. I think it's too bad they don't look
more at men, who probably suffer more with pet loss because it is
somewhat socially acceptable for women to grieve pet death and I
sometimes wonder if men aren't at a disadvantage there with people
understanding how hard it is for them, since they are not seen as the
"care givers". And yet, online, I have noticed that sometimes men
seem at least if not more distraught. A support group is sure the
key. I'm very lucky because when Grant died not only my friends and
my online friends extremely supportive, but my co-workers absolutely
treated me as though I had lost a child and were completely
sympathetic and helpful in understanding my feelings and could tell
when my grief was affecting me, probably more so than I did.

A pleasant middle of the road response. :^) Couple of reactions:

1) Women without children followed by women whose children are up, out, and
on their own, especially if their husband has done likewise get the most
attached to pets. Women are more wired to be caregivers than men. Must be a
breast thing. ;^)

2) It is more of an eyebrow raiser in North America (can't speak to other
places) to witness men as caregivers let alone displaying grief.

3) When a woman is happily married and with children, pets are way down the
list of care priorities ... sort of an accessory. Now, if this woman
associates with a lot of childless women (see item #1), then this
prioritization will probably seem foreign.