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"calvin" wrote in message ... On Jun 7, 12:13 am, "Matthew" wrote: "calvin" I have a question? Are you what they consider mentally handicapped or in better terms I think the polite way is that person is slow. short term medication - side effects may be tolerable long term medication - side effects may build up, month after month, year after year When you address that concern, I may begin to have respect for your advice. I already have in an above post. Now I know you are "slow" |
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Mr. P, I wasn't asking why the cat was prescribed never
ending medication, I was expressing concern that any harm that might come from it would build up indefinitely. You're smart, no doubt, but you don't seem to be able any better than anyone else to grasp the point I'm trying to make about that. Take liver damage, for example. I won't be able to see that it is happening, nor will the vet. So the damage goes on and on, if there is liver damage. That's just an example. You want me just to think there is no possible side effect, no matter how long the medication goes on. That seems naive, to say the least. Everything has side effects. Maybe it won't be liver damage, or nervous system damage, or anemia, but you can be sure it will be something. Thanks to everyone for your advice. The cat will receive interferon for at least the week following his neutering. After that, I don't know what to do, except look for more information on the internet, and get a second opinion. |
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"calvin" wrote : short term medication - side effects may be tolerable long term medication - side effects may build up, month after month, year after year When you address that concern, I may begin to have respect for your advice. You need the advice of ANOTHER VET, asshole. You don't want to pay for it, and you're PDC as hell, so here you are repeating yourself. lol You're so stupid it's actually funny. |
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"Matthew" wrote I already have in an above post. Now I know you are "slow" But he does love his cat. Better a bonehead with love in his heart than a genius that does not care. |
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"calvin" wrote in message ... Mr. P, I wasn't asking why the cat was prescribed never ending medication, I was expressing concern that any harm that might come from it would build up indefinitely. You're smart, no doubt, but you don't seem to be able any better than anyone else to grasp the point Your cat will die without it, and sooner than if you do not use it. So it does not matter if in the end some of the side effects occur. They all die eventuallty. You have to treat her with this so she does not die now. |
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"calvin" wrote in message ... Mr. P, I wasn't asking why the cat was prescribed never ending medication, I was expressing concern that any harm that might come from it would build up indefinitely. You're smart, no doubt, but you don't seem to be able any better than anyone else to grasp the point I'm trying to make about that. Take liver damage, for example. I won't be able to see that it is happening, nor will the vet. So the damage goes on and on, if there is liver damage. That's just an example. WRONG IT IS CALLED BLOOD WORK AND A FULL WORK UP. NO YOU CAN'T GRASP THE CONCEPT. WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS. MOST OF US HAVE OR HAVE HAD OR DEALT WITH FURBALLS THAT HAVE HAD OR HAVE LONG TERM EFFECTS. DID YOU EVEN READ MY RESPONSE ABOUT MY CAT WHO IS DIABETIC AND EPILEPTIC OR ABOUT MY CAT WHO HAS HYPERTHYROIDISM IN ANY OF MY OTHER POST. You weren't here but I had posted about my cat fight when he was posioned in the pet food recall. I KNOW WHAT ALL THIS MEANS You want me just to think there is no possible side effect, no matter how long the medication goes on. That seems naive, to say the least. Everything has side effects. Maybe it won't be liver damage, or nervous system damage, or anemia, but you can be sure it will be something. WHERE IN THE HELL DID I OR ANYONE SAY THAT. Driving to the dollar store for crayons and posterboard AND A NICE WAY TO LOOK AT IT. EVER HEARD OF POSTIVE THINKING Thanks to everyone for your advice. The cat will receive interferon for at least the week following his neutering. After that, I don't know what to do, except look for more information on the internet, and get a second opinion. TAKE THE INTERNET BLOGS AND THROW IT OUT THE ****ING DOOR FOR THE LAST TIME. FINALLY YOU GET IT TAKE YOUR CAT TO ANOTHER VET IF YOUR TRUSTED VET IS NOT TRUSTED ANYMORE GOOD LORD You are the first to ever give me a headache in all years of being on the internet |
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"cybercat" wrote in message ... "Matthew" wrote I already have in an above post. Now I know you are "slow" But he does love his cat. Better a bonehead with love in his heart than a genius that does not care. That type of love is scary |
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Seems to me cancer is more the concern than the stupid side effects that
may or may not ever show up. do the right thing and treat the cat and give it a chance or put the poor thing to sleep before the cancer gets severe and it's in pain. You are being an idiot there is only two options treat it or put it to sleep. Make up your mind it's not going to get any easier. Celeste |
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"calvin" wrote in message ... Mr. P, I wasn't asking why the cat was prescribed never ending medication, I was expressing concern that any harm that might come from it would build up indefinitely. First of all, the oral 30 IU dose is not much more than a cat with an normal immune system would produce. Second, there is no build-up because the interferon you're giving your cat is completely destroyed by gastric acid in the stomach. So there is no liver damage or any other kind of damage. Oral interferon works by binding to mucosal receptors in the oropharynx where it triggers the release of cytokines. The cytokines, not the interferon, circulate through the system and stimulate the cat's immune system. Do you understand that? You're smart, no doubt, but you don't seem to be able any better than anyone else to grasp the point I'm trying to make about that. I fully understand the point you're trying to make. Your point just has no merit and its just not based on facts or any evidence. Take liver damage, for example. I won't be able to see that it is happening, nor will the vet. So the damage goes on and on, if there is liver damage. That's just an example. You're not grasping the *fact* that for the last 12-15 years thousands of FeLV+ cats have been given oral interferon for years- usually the rest of their*lives*- and *no* adverse effects of *any kind* have *ever* been reported. 1) "When used orally in cats, adverse effects have apparently not yet been noted." (Plumb's Veterinary Drug Handbook) 2) "Adverse effects have not been reported in animals." (Saunders Handbook of Veterinary Drugs) What part of those references don't you understand? You want me just to think there is no possible side effect, no matter how long the medication goes on. That seems naive, to say the least. No- its documented *fact* from highly credible sources. Everything has side effects. Maybe it won't be liver damage, or nervous system damage, or anemia, but you can be sure it will be something. Do you think you know better than Plumb's and Saunder's? Seems like you think you do. Thanks to everyone for your advice. The cat will receive interferon for at least the week following his neutering. After that, I don't know what to do, except look for more information on the internet, Here's a better idea: Buy the fuking books: http://www.amazon.com/Plumbs-Veterin.../dp/081380518X http://www.amazon.com/Saunders-Handb.../dp/0721673872 and get a second opinion. What will you do when the second vet tells you the same thing? Trying to get through your think skull is like trying to hammer a rubber nail through a plank. I know I'm hitting the nail on the head- but it just bends. |
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On Jun 7, 12:23*pm, spot wrote:
Seems to me cancer is more the concern than the stupid side effects that may or may not ever show up. do the right thing and treat the cat and give it a chance or put the poor thing to sleep before the cancer gets severe and it's in pain. You are being an idiot there is only two options treat it or put it to sleep. *Make up your mind it's not going to get any easier. The cat is feeling fine. He has great quality of life. He eats like a hog, far more than any of my other cats. He is unbelievably affectionate, and he purrs whenever I touch him. He is not 'sick'. The vet said he tested positive for non-cancerous leukemia (apparently that's not a contradiction in terms). The only reason he was given the test was because he was a stray tomcat that I took to the vet to be examined before neutering. He had some skin and fur issues, and for that and other possible infections he was prescribed two-a-day antibiotics for ten days. He has also had ear mite treatments, de-worming, a rabies shot, and a flea treatment. He is very much improved, and is to be neutered tomorrow. There is no way I would consider killing a cat simply because he tested positive for something. If and when he appears to be suffering, that is the time for thinking about euthanasia. He's not suffering at the present, but is healthy and happy, to all appearances. |
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