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"Gracecat" wrote Satanism is a branch of paganism. Yet it's one that is far far far far removed from Wicca and it's cousins. Err, no - to be a Satanist, one would have to believe in Satan - which Pagans and Wiccans don't. A Satanist is a twisted form of Christian. A very twisted form of Christian. I've found the term "Pagan" is actually better received in the UK than "Wiccan", which has connotations of "witchcraft". -- Jette Goldie Apache and Dakota http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/kitties.html |
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"GraceCat" wrote The definition of paganism that I learned is: "those religions that do not follow the faith and beliefs of the Sons of Abraham." Those include Muslim, Judaism, and Christianity. Anything else, buddhaism, tao, siskrit etc are technically by that definition, paganism. Although its practioners might disagree . Most of today is neopagan, which includes wicca and have been around for the most of the last 200 years. The older religions that I'm aware of are voodoo, witchcraft (which wicca can use, its similar), the occult which includes Satanism. Pagan - coming from "paganus" - gods of the countryside. However since one of the Pagan god-figures is "Herne" who is a horned man, and another is Pan, who is a horned man with goat legs, these god-figures become confused with the idea of "Satan", giving rise to the idea that Pagans worship Satan. Another form is "Heathen", from "worshipper on the heath". -- Jette "Work for Peace and remain Fiercely Loving" - Jim Byrnes http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ |
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"Gracecat" wrote Satanism is a branch of paganism. Yet it's one that is far far far far removed from Wicca and it's cousins. Err, no - to be a Satanist, one would have to believe in Satan - which Pagans and Wiccans don't. A Satanist is a twisted form of Christian. A very twisted form of Christian. I've found the term "Pagan" is actually better received in the UK than "Wiccan", which has connotations of "witchcraft". -- Jette Goldie Apache and Dakota http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/kitties.html |
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Julie Snowshoe wrote: Wait a minute, is this statement right? If so then I'm misunderstanding what I've read. Having been raised Christian I became very interested in paganism and wicca when we first began discussions like this years ago. I bought books which I read so that I would understand more about the beliefs of many of my friends here. I understood that Satanism would be an offshoot of Christianity/Judism since Satan is a Christian entity. If you don't believe in God then you wouldn't believe in Satan. That's not to say that there aren't dark forces in pagan/wiccan beliefs but that they are more a part of the balance of nature rather than an evil being designed to turn you from God. From what I've learned, you're correct Julie. As a pagan I don't believe in Heaven or Hell, and people condemning me to the nether regions doesn't faze me much, if any. I've always thought of Satanism as a form of reverse Christianity. As you have to believe in the nether regions to worship them. For me paganism is a celebration of the unity of the universe and of those within it. But then, I also celebrate at the altar of the Church of the Porcelain Three-Three. What can I say? Pam S. |
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Julie Snowshoe wrote: Wait a minute, is this statement right? If so then I'm misunderstanding what I've read. Having been raised Christian I became very interested in paganism and wicca when we first began discussions like this years ago. I bought books which I read so that I would understand more about the beliefs of many of my friends here. I understood that Satanism would be an offshoot of Christianity/Judism since Satan is a Christian entity. If you don't believe in God then you wouldn't believe in Satan. That's not to say that there aren't dark forces in pagan/wiccan beliefs but that they are more a part of the balance of nature rather than an evil being designed to turn you from God. From what I've learned, you're correct Julie. As a pagan I don't believe in Heaven or Hell, and people condemning me to the nether regions doesn't faze me much, if any. I've always thought of Satanism as a form of reverse Christianity. As you have to believe in the nether regions to worship them. For me paganism is a celebration of the unity of the universe and of those within it. But then, I also celebrate at the altar of the Church of the Porcelain Three-Three. What can I say? Pam S. |
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"Hopitus2" wrote in message
snip By the way, the only stereotype of Japanese I roll my eyes @ is that tv cooking show, "Iron Chef", of which Yowie is so fond. Do you ever watch it? If so, I bet you'd probably be ROFL @ the translations given of what the "judges" are remarking re the final contestant dishes they're sampling onscreen. I don't speak a word of Japanese except "arigato" and it looks contrived and phony to me, just by their expressions. Sure learned a lot about Japanese delicacies during the cooking (extreme closeups) processes. The reason why its so funny is *because* its so contrived and phony. Then again, I love really bad horror movies - I guess schlocky phony-ness appeals to me (but I also like cooking shows and what the Iron Chefs creat in an hour *astounds* me) Yowie |
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"Hopitus2" wrote in message
snip By the way, the only stereotype of Japanese I roll my eyes @ is that tv cooking show, "Iron Chef", of which Yowie is so fond. Do you ever watch it? If so, I bet you'd probably be ROFL @ the translations given of what the "judges" are remarking re the final contestant dishes they're sampling onscreen. I don't speak a word of Japanese except "arigato" and it looks contrived and phony to me, just by their expressions. Sure learned a lot about Japanese delicacies during the cooking (extreme closeups) processes. The reason why its so funny is *because* its so contrived and phony. Then again, I love really bad horror movies - I guess schlocky phony-ness appeals to me (but I also like cooking shows and what the Iron Chefs creat in an hour *astounds* me) Yowie |
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"Tanada" wrote in message
ink.net... Sherry wrote: Oh, come on. You're always so nice. You and Marina and Polonca..well, lots more I won't try to name everyone. You all always make me feel all convicted for being so impetuous and hot-headed. I work on it, though, and try to read a post twice before I send it. You mean I'm not the only one who deletes a lot of posts before I can send them and still sticks her paw in her mouth on occasion? WOW!! I don't feel so alone any more. You have *no idea* how many flames reside in my draft folder for a little while before getting deleted. It feels good to get the steam out, but as I do alot of work off-line I have enough time between writing and actually uploading to delete most. Unfortunatley I occasionally reply whilest still on-line and some do sneak out, But generally not on this group, thank the Porcelain Three Three. Yowie |
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"Tanada" wrote in message
ink.net... Sherry wrote: Oh, come on. You're always so nice. You and Marina and Polonca..well, lots more I won't try to name everyone. You all always make me feel all convicted for being so impetuous and hot-headed. I work on it, though, and try to read a post twice before I send it. You mean I'm not the only one who deletes a lot of posts before I can send them and still sticks her paw in her mouth on occasion? WOW!! I don't feel so alone any more. You have *no idea* how many flames reside in my draft folder for a little while before getting deleted. It feels good to get the steam out, but as I do alot of work off-line I have enough time between writing and actually uploading to delete most. Unfortunatley I occasionally reply whilest still on-line and some do sneak out, But generally not on this group, thank the Porcelain Three Three. Yowie |
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wrote in message ... Sherry wrote: DH, who said, "No, it wasn't "Toad Squat." It was "The Toad Suck Festival" in Conway, ARK. That's even more bizarre!! Looking forward to the Christopher Guest movie about it. Joyce Isn't that where they suck or lick the backs of certain toads in order to get high? -- Britta Sandpaper kisses, a cuddle and a purr. I have an alarm clock that's covered in fur! Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album |
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