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"Wendy" wrote in message ...
"Hugh Jardon" wrote in message om... Hi all, one of my cats has been having seizures. I noticed a month or so ago that she was accidentally bumping into objects, and thought, that is normal for cats, because all cats do this periodically. But she kept getting worse, and had a full-blown seizure (very scary) so I took her to the vet. The vet ran several tests, FIV, FIP, CBC etc. with no conclusion. My vet admitted that he wasn't very familiar with seizures in cats, but after observing a seizure while in his office said that he thinks that it is epilepsy. I have been giving my cat diazepam and she hasn't had a seizure since she started this medication. I have been told that diaezapam is really just a generic form of valium and can cause severe liver damage in cats. Has anyone here had any experience with cat seizures or epilepsy in cats? I don't want my girl to end up with liver damage from the meds but I don't want her to die from a seizure either. I am caught between a rock and a hard place, and I'm not sure what to do. I would be greatful for any advice concerning seizures or otherwise. Thank you. Hugh Jardon A friend's cat had epilepsy and they gave him Phenobarbital. I understand that Phenobarbital is the initial drug of choice. W Hi Wendy, I think that is what the vet tried the first time. What ever it was my girl was allergic to it and it caused a knot to appear under her skin. Thanks Wendy. Hugh Jardon |
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"Wendy" wrote in message ...
"Hugh Jardon" wrote in message om... Hi all, one of my cats has been having seizures. I noticed a month or so ago that she was accidentally bumping into objects, and thought, that is normal for cats, because all cats do this periodically. But she kept getting worse, and had a full-blown seizure (very scary) so I took her to the vet. The vet ran several tests, FIV, FIP, CBC etc. with no conclusion. My vet admitted that he wasn't very familiar with seizures in cats, but after observing a seizure while in his office said that he thinks that it is epilepsy. I have been giving my cat diazepam and she hasn't had a seizure since she started this medication. I have been told that diaezapam is really just a generic form of valium and can cause severe liver damage in cats. Has anyone here had any experience with cat seizures or epilepsy in cats? I don't want my girl to end up with liver damage from the meds but I don't want her to die from a seizure either. I am caught between a rock and a hard place, and I'm not sure what to do. I would be greatful for any advice concerning seizures or otherwise. Thank you. Hugh Jardon A friend's cat had epilepsy and they gave him Phenobarbital. I understand that Phenobarbital is the initial drug of choice. W Hi Wendy, I think that is what the vet tried the first time. What ever it was my girl was allergic to it and it caused a knot to appear under her skin. Thanks Wendy. Hugh Jardon |
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"Hugh Jardon" wrote in message
om... Hi all, one of my cats has been having seizures. I noticed a month or so ago that she was accidentally bumping into objects, and thought, that is normal for cats, because all cats do this periodically. But she kept getting worse, and had a full-blown seizure (very scary) so I took her to the vet. The vet ran several tests, FIV, FIP, CBC etc. with no conclusion. My vet admitted that he wasn't very familiar with seizures in cats, but after observing a seizure while in his office said that he thinks that it is epilepsy. I have been giving my cat diazepam and she hasn't had a seizure since she started this medication. I have been told that diaezapam is really just a generic form of valium and can cause severe liver damage in cats. Has anyone here had any experience with cat seizures or epilepsy in cats? I don't want my girl to end up with liver damage from the meds but I don't want her to die from a seizure either. I am caught between a rock and a hard place, and I'm not sure what to do. I would be greatful for any advice concerning seizures or otherwise. Thank you. Hugh Jardon My girl has ideopathic epilepsy - in other words, no known cause. Thankfully all but one of her seizures have been very mild. She was on phenobarbital for close to two years before being weaned off of it, and has had no fits since. Valium is also a possible drug. Do your research on the diazepam and possible side effects. Most vets will encourage you to eventually wean your cat off of the medication, as in some cases, if the treatment goes long enough, suddenly not having it can -cause- the seizures (chemical dependency in cats, you know). If you notice her having a fit, turn off the lights, turn off anything that makes noise. Quiet and darkness can help the cat relax and shorten the fit. Try to keep a running mental time of the seizure. Three minutes is the danger zone: at three minutes, there can be brain damage from which the animal may never recover. I imagine that during a grand mal seizure, however, that the danger zone might come up faster. My girl has only had the one grand mal, as I said, and that was in the carrier on a three hour drive. That's terrifying. Her petit mals were really only a loss of coordination and a lack of ability to stand. She'd sprawl on the floor, purring like mad, stretched on her side. Turning off the lights and just petting her and talking to her quietly always seemed to help her come out of it faster. |
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"Hugh Jardon" wrote in message
om... Hi all, one of my cats has been having seizures. I noticed a month or so ago that she was accidentally bumping into objects, and thought, that is normal for cats, because all cats do this periodically. But she kept getting worse, and had a full-blown seizure (very scary) so I took her to the vet. The vet ran several tests, FIV, FIP, CBC etc. with no conclusion. My vet admitted that he wasn't very familiar with seizures in cats, but after observing a seizure while in his office said that he thinks that it is epilepsy. I have been giving my cat diazepam and she hasn't had a seizure since she started this medication. I have been told that diaezapam is really just a generic form of valium and can cause severe liver damage in cats. Has anyone here had any experience with cat seizures or epilepsy in cats? I don't want my girl to end up with liver damage from the meds but I don't want her to die from a seizure either. I am caught between a rock and a hard place, and I'm not sure what to do. I would be greatful for any advice concerning seizures or otherwise. Thank you. Hugh Jardon My girl has ideopathic epilepsy - in other words, no known cause. Thankfully all but one of her seizures have been very mild. She was on phenobarbital for close to two years before being weaned off of it, and has had no fits since. Valium is also a possible drug. Do your research on the diazepam and possible side effects. Most vets will encourage you to eventually wean your cat off of the medication, as in some cases, if the treatment goes long enough, suddenly not having it can -cause- the seizures (chemical dependency in cats, you know). If you notice her having a fit, turn off the lights, turn off anything that makes noise. Quiet and darkness can help the cat relax and shorten the fit. Try to keep a running mental time of the seizure. Three minutes is the danger zone: at three minutes, there can be brain damage from which the animal may never recover. I imagine that during a grand mal seizure, however, that the danger zone might come up faster. My girl has only had the one grand mal, as I said, and that was in the carrier on a three hour drive. That's terrifying. Her petit mals were really only a loss of coordination and a lack of ability to stand. She'd sprawl on the floor, purring like mad, stretched on her side. Turning off the lights and just petting her and talking to her quietly always seemed to help her come out of it faster. |
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Hugh -
The vet can check your cat's blood sugar by means of a blood test. The process is very similar to that for checking a human. To do a thorough job, the vet would need to take several small blood samples over the course of a day to see what happens to the cat's blood sugar after eating, between meals, and when it is getting hungry. In a diabetic cat, for example, the blood sugar would tend to spike up to an abnormally high level after eating , stay high for a while, and then drop off to abnormally low levels before the next feeding time. In a normal cat, the blood sugar would start to go up, then be offset by the cat's secretion of insulin into the blood stream, which would keep the blood sugar within a normal tolerance band over a period of hours. For those who are interested in human dieting and weight loss, it is this insulin cycle that underlies the medical theory of "low carb" diet plans. High carb diets drive up blood sugar, which then triggers insulin production to get the blood sugar back down. Insulin tells the body to convert the blood sugar into fat to store it for later use. Continued intake of carbs keeps the body from tapping the fat reserve for energy, so the fat never goes away. Also, the body tends not to tap into its fat reserves unless it is starving or is being properly exercised. Thus, high carbs equals fat production and weight gain. On the other hand, limited carb intake and proper exercise means tapping the body's fat reserves, which equals weight loss. Interestingly, extensive medical research indicates that the human body cycles its fat reserves - that is, old fat gets replaced by new fat when there is sufficient intake of oil and fat in the diet. Since the body also tends to store toxic substances and chemicals (and even prescription and illegal drugs) in fat, this normal cycling of fat sheds potentially harmful substances from the body. For example, simply by adding two tablespoons of olive oil to the daily diet, medical research shows that a woman can cut the odds of breast (high degree of fatty tissue) cancer by 30% to 60%!! You would think the medicos would realize that low fat diets can actually be quiet harmful in the long run, and that it's the type of fat (trans-fat and saturated fat) not the overall amount of fat that counts. Oh well, I've strayed off the topic. Best wishes. "Hugh Jardon" wrote in message om... "Jim D" wrote in message . com... Our cat briefly suffered from seizures and motor control problems when she became diabetic and was given too much insulin. Severe hypoglycemia can result in seizures and muscle control problems, so be sure to have your cat checked for blood sugar problems. Would that show up on a blood test, or would the vet have to check for that independantly? My vet ran several tests but said they were inconclusive. Thanks Jim. Hugh Jardon |
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Hugh -
The vet can check your cat's blood sugar by means of a blood test. The process is very similar to that for checking a human. To do a thorough job, the vet would need to take several small blood samples over the course of a day to see what happens to the cat's blood sugar after eating, between meals, and when it is getting hungry. In a diabetic cat, for example, the blood sugar would tend to spike up to an abnormally high level after eating , stay high for a while, and then drop off to abnormally low levels before the next feeding time. In a normal cat, the blood sugar would start to go up, then be offset by the cat's secretion of insulin into the blood stream, which would keep the blood sugar within a normal tolerance band over a period of hours. For those who are interested in human dieting and weight loss, it is this insulin cycle that underlies the medical theory of "low carb" diet plans. High carb diets drive up blood sugar, which then triggers insulin production to get the blood sugar back down. Insulin tells the body to convert the blood sugar into fat to store it for later use. Continued intake of carbs keeps the body from tapping the fat reserve for energy, so the fat never goes away. Also, the body tends not to tap into its fat reserves unless it is starving or is being properly exercised. Thus, high carbs equals fat production and weight gain. On the other hand, limited carb intake and proper exercise means tapping the body's fat reserves, which equals weight loss. Interestingly, extensive medical research indicates that the human body cycles its fat reserves - that is, old fat gets replaced by new fat when there is sufficient intake of oil and fat in the diet. Since the body also tends to store toxic substances and chemicals (and even prescription and illegal drugs) in fat, this normal cycling of fat sheds potentially harmful substances from the body. For example, simply by adding two tablespoons of olive oil to the daily diet, medical research shows that a woman can cut the odds of breast (high degree of fatty tissue) cancer by 30% to 60%!! You would think the medicos would realize that low fat diets can actually be quiet harmful in the long run, and that it's the type of fat (trans-fat and saturated fat) not the overall amount of fat that counts. Oh well, I've strayed off the topic. Best wishes. "Hugh Jardon" wrote in message om... "Jim D" wrote in message . com... Our cat briefly suffered from seizures and motor control problems when she became diabetic and was given too much insulin. Severe hypoglycemia can result in seizures and muscle control problems, so be sure to have your cat checked for blood sugar problems. Would that show up on a blood test, or would the vet have to check for that independantly? My vet ran several tests but said they were inconclusive. Thanks Jim. Hugh Jardon |
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On Fri, 21 May 2004 12:26:15 GMT, "Jim D"
dijo: In a diabetic cat, for example, the blood sugar would tend to spike up to an abnormally high level after eating , stay high for a while, and then drop off to abnormally low levels before the next feeding time. In a normal cat, the blood sugar would start to go up, then be offset by the cat's secretion of insulin into the blood stream, which would keep the blood sugar within a normal tolerance band over a period of hours. Diabetic humans and cats do run too high because of insufficient insulin. However, the rebound effect (i.e., going too low) is very unusual. In fact it is more common among chronic hypoglycemics, who are not at all diabetic. For those who are interested in human dieting and weight loss, it is this insulin cycle that underlies the medical theory of "low carb" diet plans. High carb diets drive up blood sugar, which then triggers insulin production to get the blood sugar back down. Insulin tells the body to convert the blood sugar into fat to store it for later use. This is all wrong. Fat cells are the only cells in the body that can admit glucose without the presence of insulin. All other cells in the body require insulin to trigger the opening of the cell wall to admit the glucose molecule from the blood. Thus, when your blood sugar is high and there is not enough insulin (a diabetic condition), the sugar goes into the fat cells. When there is an adequate amount of insulin the sugar is absorbed and burned by other cells and less so by the fat cells. Insulin does not "tell the body to convert the blood sugar into fat to store it for later use." The truth is more or less the opposite -- sugar ends up being converted to fat in the absence of insulin, not when it is prevalent. Overweight conditions are caused by dozens of different factors. Indeed, each overweight cat or human is overweight for a combination of reasons, including eating habits. Interestingly, extensive medical research indicates that the human body cycles its fat reserves - that is, old fat gets replaced by new fat when there is sufficient intake of oil and fat in the diet. Since the body also tends to store toxic substances and chemicals (and even prescription and illegal drugs) in fat, this normal cycling of fat sheds potentially harmful substances from the body. So I suppose the narcs should stop using blood and urine testing and just slice a rasher of fat out of the suspect's bacon, eh? It is true that some substances (including a lot of vitamins) are stored in fatty tissue, but they are stored there in small amounts and slowly. Furthermore, when the fat is later burned the substance remains behind and goes back into the blood stream. The substance doesn't "burn up" along with the fat. The liver and kidneys take care of most of the impurities by cleaning them out of the blood; impurities are not removed by "cycling" of fat. -- Bogus e-mail address, but I read this newsgroup regularly, so reply here. |
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