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"kitkat" wrote in message
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Ashley wrote:
Cats have no predators here. Cats *are* the predators.

That is actually kinda cool!

Not if you're a skink, gecko or kiwi chick it ain't!

"Meghan Noecker" wrote in message
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On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:32:35 +1200, "Ashley"
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Sorry, RTA = road traffic accident. If a cat's gonna get hit by a car, it
will happen at night.


Oh, so the cats get dumb at night? I thought you said they know to
stay away from cars.

They can be startled by the lights at night. They are also less easily seen
by drivers at night. I said cats develop road sense, which they do. That
doesn't mean they become invincible, which I never claimed.





Okay, then. What reptiles are being protected? None of them fight
back?

Skinks and geckos. We are talking lizards of, oh 6-7cm long. Their teeth
aren't very effective against cats.




I see. So people don't care if cats get injured then.

Says who?


They are the
problem after all. Now it makes a lot more sense.

Ecologically, they are. I'm sorry if that offends you, but reality has a way
of doing that sometimes. Read the links on NZ's ecology, Meghan, because
right now you are the one with your hands over your ears going lalalalala

"Diane L. Schirf" wrote in message


I can answer this -- many predators are active at night. Including,
interestingly, cats.

Actually, cats are crepuscular - meaning they're most active at dawn and
dusk.

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"Ashley" wrote in message
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Cats are the ones *causing* the danger here, not being the victims of
it.

If you are so concerned about cats *causing* danger to wildlife there I
think it's even more irresponsible of you to endanger your environment
like
that - leaving aside the fact that you're endangering your cat!

In cities, or any urban area, the major risk to flora and fauna is
habitat
removal, not cats.

But you *just* said "Cats are the ones *causing* the danger here, not being
the victims of it."! You really *are* an idiot! ROTFLMAO!

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"Phil P." wrote:

"Diane L. Schirf" wrote in message


I can answer this -- many predators are active at night. Including,
interestingly, cats.

Actually, cats are crepuscular - meaning they're most active at dawn and
dusk.

Absolutely. But that doesn't negate what I said


I wasn't trying to negate what you said. I said cats are crepuscular -
meaning they're *most* active at dawn and dusk - not that they're inactive
at other times of the day...

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They recommend keeping the cats in for the sake of the wildlife!!! Read the
links I posted about New Zealand's ecology. I understand you have difficulty
believing it if you don't read those links, because New Zealand's ecology is
like nowhere else on earth. Cats have no predators here. Cats *are* the
predators.

I will vouch for this, as I considered moving there and did a good bit of
research on NZ. If I lived there and didn't live in one of the urban areas,
I'd probably let mine out, too.
And you all know how I feel about letting cats out.

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I STILL want to know why people think cats should be able to roam,
but have
no problems with dog leash laws...

Dogs can be dangerous (to humans).

So?
An awful lot of people don't want someone else's cats on their property. I
know I wouldn't. I don't want someone else's cat, who may or may not be
dewormed and vaccinated, ****ing and ****ting on my lawn.
Other people have some pretty serious allergies. One of my co-workers was
talking about killing cats that came on his property because his toddler, who
was very allergic to cats, couldn't even play in his own yard any more.

Danger to human flesh isn't the only kind of inconvenience.
MY pets don't belong on YOUR property -- and vice versa. Without an
invitation, of course.

I don't think anyone has been killed
or injured by a free-roaming cat.

I would highly doubt they were attacked by one out of the blue, but anything
with teeth can bite.

Plus, cats are less amenable to lead
training than dogs - if cats were entirely happy on a lead, then
perhaps there would be leash laws for cats.

There ARE leash laws for cats in some areas, mine included.
My area (and many others, last I checked) has an ordinance that specifies no
PETS are to be allowed to roam. That includes cats, dogs, ferrets, and pot-
bellied pigs.

Much as I like the surreal vision of going for a run
with my cats, somehow I don't think it will happen...!


That vision just cracked me up.
LOL

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On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 09:34:35 +1200, "Ashley"
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No it's not. There is no encouragement in New Zealand to keep cats indoors,
other than keeping them in at night.



I'm curious - why do they recommend it at night?


In NZ, the cats kill a lot of native wildlife at night.
They would like to help save their birds.

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I worried/worry about this too -- I know I would feel absolutely horrible
if something happened to Rosalie outside, or if something had happened to
Madeline. But I balance that fear with the knowledge that their lives
would be much less happy if they couldn't go out.


If I had a house, I'd have someone build a large enclosed cat run with a cat
door (or ramp from a window) for my cats. They could go out, be in the grass,
chase bugs and such, but still be safe.

I live in a condo right next to a busy road. I can't let mine roam. They'd be
road pizza, probably sooner rather than later.


I think it's not helpful to compare cats with small children.

They ARE my furry children, really. I don't have, nor do I want, children of
my own. So I have furry kids. And like children, it is my responsibility to
protect them because they cannot make informed decisions of their own.
I'm not saying they aren't smart. I know some cats that I think are smarter
than some adult humans.

Like Madeline before her, I have never seen Rosalie go near the road, and she runs and
hides from other cats, dogs, and people.

So does Rowan, and so did I when I was a kid. LOL
But a scared cat running from a dog or person is a cat that might dart in
front of a car. Which is exactly what Rowan would do if she wasn't leashed. I
know because I've had to stop her (good thing she was on lead!!).
I don't know what it's like where you live; I can only speak of my own area.
And my area is totally unsafe for cats to roam off-lead.

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On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:32:35 +1200, "Ashley"
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Sorry, RTA = road traffic accident. If a cat's gonna get hit by a car, it
will happen at night.


Oh, so the cats get dumb at night? I thought you said they know to
stay away from cars.

People are way more likely to hit things at night, period.
Deer don't get any dumber at night than they are during the day, either, but
you're a lot more likely to hit one. Between the lights making the deer
freeze, the fact that you just don't see as well, there are less cars on the
road so deer are more likely to be in it...
Plus cats are just more active at night than during the day.

(tho' I thought Ashley said she lived in a rural area with few cars...was I
mistaken?)

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