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Well the Aiken the cat hater will have one less radio station playing his
music. Never upset the felines especially when they are management at a station geared towards cats. "Karen" wrote in message news:BBE05185.B45B% Well *saying* cats are Satan and purposely running over a kitten are two different things. Karen |
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"Karen" wrote in message ... in article CSBub.2430$3z5.2310@okepread01, Cat Protector at wrote on 11/18/03 9:57 PM: No, he did in fact says cats were Satan and he did mention his dislike of cats. I saw an interview with him when he said that. I never said he didn't say cats were Satan or that he didn't dislike cats. I specifically referred to the comment about running over his kitten. What was originally posted (the PETA quip) implied that he did so intentionally and as I recall from the interview I saw, this was not true. From what I remember, he was quite traumatized by the incident and that is one of the reasons he never owned another cat. Well *saying* cats are Satan and purposely running over a kitten are two different things. Karen Very different, but not everyone can see that. Sometimes I say my cat is a "fatso catso," but that doesn't mean I hate her and would run her over because she's full-figured. And not liking cats does not equal being a bad person--a weird person, maybe, but certainly not bad. rona -- ***For e-mail, replace .com with .ca Sorry for the inconvenience!*** |
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"Karen" wrote in message ... in article CSBub.2430$3z5.2310@okepread01, Cat Protector at wrote on 11/18/03 9:57 PM: No, he did in fact says cats were Satan and he did mention his dislike of cats. I saw an interview with him when he said that. I never said he didn't say cats were Satan or that he didn't dislike cats. I specifically referred to the comment about running over his kitten. What was originally posted (the PETA quip) implied that he did so intentionally and as I recall from the interview I saw, this was not true. From what I remember, he was quite traumatized by the incident and that is one of the reasons he never owned another cat. Well *saying* cats are Satan and purposely running over a kitten are two different things. Karen Very different, but not everyone can see that. Sometimes I say my cat is a "fatso catso," but that doesn't mean I hate her and would run her over because she's full-figured. And not liking cats does not equal being a bad person--a weird person, maybe, but certainly not bad. rona -- ***For e-mail, replace .com with .ca Sorry for the inconvenience!*** |
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"Karen" wrote in message ... in article CSBub.2430$3z5.2310@okepread01, Cat Protector at wrote on 11/18/03 9:57 PM: No, he did in fact says cats were Satan and he did mention his dislike of cats. I saw an interview with him when he said that. I never said he didn't say cats were Satan or that he didn't dislike cats. I specifically referred to the comment about running over his kitten. What was originally posted (the PETA quip) implied that he did so intentionally and as I recall from the interview I saw, this was not true. From what I remember, he was quite traumatized by the incident and that is one of the reasons he never owned another cat. Well *saying* cats are Satan and purposely running over a kitten are two different things. Karen Very different, but not everyone can see that. Sometimes I say my cat is a "fatso catso," but that doesn't mean I hate her and would run her over because she's full-figured. And not liking cats does not equal being a bad person--a weird person, maybe, but certainly not bad. rona -- ***For e-mail, replace .com with .ca Sorry for the inconvenience!*** |
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"PawsForThought" wrote in message
... I don't know if this is true or not, but I got this from another board: http://www.peta.org/feat/triumph/ "PETA: Triumph the Insult Comic Dog Dumps on Clay Aiken in New PETA Pro-Neutering Ad The article says: "Triumph chose to make Clay Aiken the target of his humor in the ad, and PETA didn't object because Aiken recently told Rolling Stone, "I think cats are Satan. There's nothing worse to me than a house cat. When I was about 16, I had a kitten and ran over it." PETA deals with dozens of cases of cruelty to cats every week and knows firsthand how damaging statements like this can be-impressionable kids often mimic what their "idols" do. Aiken never responded when PETA wrote to him." ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm I'm taking this on to Lauren's post, just because it was the beginning of this thread, not because I think any of what I have to say applies to her. Here's the full article from Rolling Stone Clay Aiken and PETA. The asterisks in the second paragraph were added by me, to draw attention to the context of the comment made by Clay Aiken. from http://www.rollingstone.com/news/new...973&cf=2046795 ---begin paste--- In a landmark display of canine-feline solidarity, Triumph the Insult Comic Dog has lashed out at professed kitty-hater Clay Aiken in a new ad campaign for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. The print ad shows Triumph with a band-aid over his recently neutered doggy-bits and a post-surgery collar, and reads, "Get Neutered: It didn't hurt Clay Aiken." Though the barb was Triumph's own, PETA went along thanks in part to comments that Aiken made in a recent Rolling Stone article. "I think cats are Satan," Aiken said. "There's nothing worse to me than a house cat. When I was about sixteen, I had a kitten and ran over it. *****Seeing that cat die, I actually think that its spirit has haunted me. I wasn't afraid of cats before. But now they scare me to death.*****" "It's a stupid statement," says PETA Vice President Dan Matthews. "We get calls every week from people who throw kittens on barbecues because it's funny. Or people who light cats on fire, or people who drag cats from cars. It's so irresponsible that we wrote him after that interview came out and he never got back to us. So we thought, you know, fair game, let's go for it." According to PETA, with animal shelters overflowing, neutering and spaying cats and dogs saves shelter-workers from having to put animals to death when suitable homes cannot be found. Because Triumph's new album, Come Poop With Me, is full of jokes about losing his private parts, he seemed a perfect spokes-puppet. "There's already been a huge response," says Matthews, whose office has been bombarded by calls from angry Clay-mates. "When we explain why, they understand it a bit better. In the end it's just funny. If you look at the awful thing Clay said about cats, our ad in response is a pretty lighthearted way to even up the score." A spokesman for Clay Aiken had not comment on the ad. DAVID SWANSON ---end paste--- At the risk of being flamed, I think people who thought "Clay called cats "satan" so he must be a bad person and we should hate him and try to ruin his reputation" are not that far off *in spirit* from those who might think, "Clay called cats "satan" so cats must be bad and we should do evil things to them." Two sides of the same coin, in my opinion. rona (donning flame-retardant clothing) -- ***For e-mail, replace .com with .ca Sorry for the inconvenience!*** |
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"PawsForThought" wrote in message
... I don't know if this is true or not, but I got this from another board: http://www.peta.org/feat/triumph/ "PETA: Triumph the Insult Comic Dog Dumps on Clay Aiken in New PETA Pro-Neutering Ad The article says: "Triumph chose to make Clay Aiken the target of his humor in the ad, and PETA didn't object because Aiken recently told Rolling Stone, "I think cats are Satan. There's nothing worse to me than a house cat. When I was about 16, I had a kitten and ran over it." PETA deals with dozens of cases of cruelty to cats every week and knows firsthand how damaging statements like this can be-impressionable kids often mimic what their "idols" do. Aiken never responded when PETA wrote to him." ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm I'm taking this on to Lauren's post, just because it was the beginning of this thread, not because I think any of what I have to say applies to her. Here's the full article from Rolling Stone Clay Aiken and PETA. The asterisks in the second paragraph were added by me, to draw attention to the context of the comment made by Clay Aiken. from http://www.rollingstone.com/news/new...973&cf=2046795 ---begin paste--- In a landmark display of canine-feline solidarity, Triumph the Insult Comic Dog has lashed out at professed kitty-hater Clay Aiken in a new ad campaign for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. The print ad shows Triumph with a band-aid over his recently neutered doggy-bits and a post-surgery collar, and reads, "Get Neutered: It didn't hurt Clay Aiken." Though the barb was Triumph's own, PETA went along thanks in part to comments that Aiken made in a recent Rolling Stone article. "I think cats are Satan," Aiken said. "There's nothing worse to me than a house cat. When I was about sixteen, I had a kitten and ran over it. *****Seeing that cat die, I actually think that its spirit has haunted me. I wasn't afraid of cats before. But now they scare me to death.*****" "It's a stupid statement," says PETA Vice President Dan Matthews. "We get calls every week from people who throw kittens on barbecues because it's funny. Or people who light cats on fire, or people who drag cats from cars. It's so irresponsible that we wrote him after that interview came out and he never got back to us. So we thought, you know, fair game, let's go for it." According to PETA, with animal shelters overflowing, neutering and spaying cats and dogs saves shelter-workers from having to put animals to death when suitable homes cannot be found. Because Triumph's new album, Come Poop With Me, is full of jokes about losing his private parts, he seemed a perfect spokes-puppet. "There's already been a huge response," says Matthews, whose office has been bombarded by calls from angry Clay-mates. "When we explain why, they understand it a bit better. In the end it's just funny. If you look at the awful thing Clay said about cats, our ad in response is a pretty lighthearted way to even up the score." A spokesman for Clay Aiken had not comment on the ad. DAVID SWANSON ---end paste--- At the risk of being flamed, I think people who thought "Clay called cats "satan" so he must be a bad person and we should hate him and try to ruin his reputation" are not that far off *in spirit* from those who might think, "Clay called cats "satan" so cats must be bad and we should do evil things to them." Two sides of the same coin, in my opinion. rona (donning flame-retardant clothing) -- ***For e-mail, replace .com with .ca Sorry for the inconvenience!*** |
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"PawsForThought" wrote in message
... I don't know if this is true or not, but I got this from another board: http://www.peta.org/feat/triumph/ "PETA: Triumph the Insult Comic Dog Dumps on Clay Aiken in New PETA Pro-Neutering Ad The article says: "Triumph chose to make Clay Aiken the target of his humor in the ad, and PETA didn't object because Aiken recently told Rolling Stone, "I think cats are Satan. There's nothing worse to me than a house cat. When I was about 16, I had a kitten and ran over it." PETA deals with dozens of cases of cruelty to cats every week and knows firsthand how damaging statements like this can be-impressionable kids often mimic what their "idols" do. Aiken never responded when PETA wrote to him." ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm I'm taking this on to Lauren's post, just because it was the beginning of this thread, not because I think any of what I have to say applies to her. Here's the full article from Rolling Stone Clay Aiken and PETA. The asterisks in the second paragraph were added by me, to draw attention to the context of the comment made by Clay Aiken. from http://www.rollingstone.com/news/new...973&cf=2046795 ---begin paste--- In a landmark display of canine-feline solidarity, Triumph the Insult Comic Dog has lashed out at professed kitty-hater Clay Aiken in a new ad campaign for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. The print ad shows Triumph with a band-aid over his recently neutered doggy-bits and a post-surgery collar, and reads, "Get Neutered: It didn't hurt Clay Aiken." Though the barb was Triumph's own, PETA went along thanks in part to comments that Aiken made in a recent Rolling Stone article. "I think cats are Satan," Aiken said. "There's nothing worse to me than a house cat. When I was about sixteen, I had a kitten and ran over it. *****Seeing that cat die, I actually think that its spirit has haunted me. I wasn't afraid of cats before. But now they scare me to death.*****" "It's a stupid statement," says PETA Vice President Dan Matthews. "We get calls every week from people who throw kittens on barbecues because it's funny. Or people who light cats on fire, or people who drag cats from cars. It's so irresponsible that we wrote him after that interview came out and he never got back to us. So we thought, you know, fair game, let's go for it." According to PETA, with animal shelters overflowing, neutering and spaying cats and dogs saves shelter-workers from having to put animals to death when suitable homes cannot be found. Because Triumph's new album, Come Poop With Me, is full of jokes about losing his private parts, he seemed a perfect spokes-puppet. "There's already been a huge response," says Matthews, whose office has been bombarded by calls from angry Clay-mates. "When we explain why, they understand it a bit better. In the end it's just funny. If you look at the awful thing Clay said about cats, our ad in response is a pretty lighthearted way to even up the score." A spokesman for Clay Aiken had not comment on the ad. DAVID SWANSON ---end paste--- At the risk of being flamed, I think people who thought "Clay called cats "satan" so he must be a bad person and we should hate him and try to ruin his reputation" are not that far off *in spirit* from those who might think, "Clay called cats "satan" so cats must be bad and we should do evil things to them." Two sides of the same coin, in my opinion. rona (donning flame-retardant clothing) -- ***For e-mail, replace .com with .ca Sorry for the inconvenience!*** |
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I am not a big supporter of PETA but I have to agree with them on this one.
I am not sure if it'll ruin Aiken's rep or not but he certainly is not commenting on the ad either. I think Aiken is going to have to live with what he said. He said he hates cats and called them Satan and as a cat lover I was disgusted. I rooted for Aiken during American Idol but I think as I re-read his comments it makes me regret doing so. Like I said before I saw an interview where he said he ran over his cat but he also didn't seem to be too bent out of shape about it either. The camera never lies. If you say something negative then you have to learn to deal with it. I found the PETA ad to be somewhat light compared to their more fierce campaigns. BTW, if any of you have seen Triumph on shows like Conan O'Brien his skits are pretty funny. Nobody takes that fake dog seriously. Aiken will have to live with the fallout. There are two sides to being famous and you have to learn to live with both sides. "Rona Yuthasastrakosol" wrote in message ... I'm taking this on to Lauren's post, just because it was the beginning of this thread, not because I think any of what I have to say applies to her. Here's the full article from Rolling Stone Clay Aiken and PETA. The asterisks in the second paragraph were added by me, to draw attention to the context of the comment made by Clay Aiken. from http://www.rollingstone.com/news/new...973&cf=2046795 ---begin paste--- In a landmark display of canine-feline solidarity, Triumph the Insult Comic Dog has lashed out at professed kitty-hater Clay Aiken in a new ad campaign for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. The print ad shows Triumph with a band-aid over his recently neutered doggy-bits and a post-surgery collar, and reads, "Get Neutered: It didn't hurt Clay Aiken." Though the barb was Triumph's own, PETA went along thanks in part to comments that Aiken made in a recent Rolling Stone article. "I think cats are Satan," Aiken said. "There's nothing worse to me than a house cat. When I was about sixteen, I had a kitten and ran over it. *****Seeing that cat die, I actually think that its spirit has haunted me. I wasn't afraid of cats before. But now they scare me to death.*****" "It's a stupid statement," says PETA Vice President Dan Matthews. "We get calls every week from people who throw kittens on barbecues because it's funny. Or people who light cats on fire, or people who drag cats from cars. It's so irresponsible that we wrote him after that interview came out and he never got back to us. So we thought, you know, fair game, let's go for it." According to PETA, with animal shelters overflowing, neutering and spaying cats and dogs saves shelter-workers from having to put animals to death when suitable homes cannot be found. Because Triumph's new album, Come Poop With Me, is full of jokes about losing his private parts, he seemed a perfect spokes-puppet. "There's already been a huge response," says Matthews, whose office has been bombarded by calls from angry Clay-mates. "When we explain why, they understand it a bit better. In the end it's just funny. If you look at the awful thing Clay said about cats, our ad in response is a pretty lighthearted way to even up the score." A spokesman for Clay Aiken had not comment on the ad. DAVID SWANSON ---end paste--- At the risk of being flamed, I think people who thought "Clay called cats "satan" so he must be a bad person and we should hate him and try to ruin his reputation" are not that far off *in spirit* from those who might think, "Clay called cats "satan" so cats must be bad and we should do evil things to them." Two sides of the same coin, in my opinion. rona (donning flame-retardant clothing) -- ***For e-mail, replace .com with .ca Sorry for the inconvenience!*** |
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I am not a big supporter of PETA but I have to agree with them on this one.
I am not sure if it'll ruin Aiken's rep or not but he certainly is not commenting on the ad either. I think Aiken is going to have to live with what he said. He said he hates cats and called them Satan and as a cat lover I was disgusted. I rooted for Aiken during American Idol but I think as I re-read his comments it makes me regret doing so. Like I said before I saw an interview where he said he ran over his cat but he also didn't seem to be too bent out of shape about it either. The camera never lies. If you say something negative then you have to learn to deal with it. I found the PETA ad to be somewhat light compared to their more fierce campaigns. BTW, if any of you have seen Triumph on shows like Conan O'Brien his skits are pretty funny. Nobody takes that fake dog seriously. Aiken will have to live with the fallout. There are two sides to being famous and you have to learn to live with both sides. "Rona Yuthasastrakosol" wrote in message ... I'm taking this on to Lauren's post, just because it was the beginning of this thread, not because I think any of what I have to say applies to her. Here's the full article from Rolling Stone Clay Aiken and PETA. The asterisks in the second paragraph were added by me, to draw attention to the context of the comment made by Clay Aiken. from http://www.rollingstone.com/news/new...973&cf=2046795 ---begin paste--- In a landmark display of canine-feline solidarity, Triumph the Insult Comic Dog has lashed out at professed kitty-hater Clay Aiken in a new ad campaign for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. The print ad shows Triumph with a band-aid over his recently neutered doggy-bits and a post-surgery collar, and reads, "Get Neutered: It didn't hurt Clay Aiken." Though the barb was Triumph's own, PETA went along thanks in part to comments that Aiken made in a recent Rolling Stone article. "I think cats are Satan," Aiken said. "There's nothing worse to me than a house cat. When I was about sixteen, I had a kitten and ran over it. *****Seeing that cat die, I actually think that its spirit has haunted me. I wasn't afraid of cats before. But now they scare me to death.*****" "It's a stupid statement," says PETA Vice President Dan Matthews. "We get calls every week from people who throw kittens on barbecues because it's funny. Or people who light cats on fire, or people who drag cats from cars. It's so irresponsible that we wrote him after that interview came out and he never got back to us. So we thought, you know, fair game, let's go for it." According to PETA, with animal shelters overflowing, neutering and spaying cats and dogs saves shelter-workers from having to put animals to death when suitable homes cannot be found. Because Triumph's new album, Come Poop With Me, is full of jokes about losing his private parts, he seemed a perfect spokes-puppet. "There's already been a huge response," says Matthews, whose office has been bombarded by calls from angry Clay-mates. "When we explain why, they understand it a bit better. In the end it's just funny. If you look at the awful thing Clay said about cats, our ad in response is a pretty lighthearted way to even up the score." A spokesman for Clay Aiken had not comment on the ad. DAVID SWANSON ---end paste--- At the risk of being flamed, I think people who thought "Clay called cats "satan" so he must be a bad person and we should hate him and try to ruin his reputation" are not that far off *in spirit* from those who might think, "Clay called cats "satan" so cats must be bad and we should do evil things to them." Two sides of the same coin, in my opinion. rona (donning flame-retardant clothing) -- ***For e-mail, replace .com with .ca Sorry for the inconvenience!*** |
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I am not a big supporter of PETA but I have to agree with them on this one.
I am not sure if it'll ruin Aiken's rep or not but he certainly is not commenting on the ad either. I think Aiken is going to have to live with what he said. He said he hates cats and called them Satan and as a cat lover I was disgusted. I rooted for Aiken during American Idol but I think as I re-read his comments it makes me regret doing so. Like I said before I saw an interview where he said he ran over his cat but he also didn't seem to be too bent out of shape about it either. The camera never lies. If you say something negative then you have to learn to deal with it. I found the PETA ad to be somewhat light compared to their more fierce campaigns. BTW, if any of you have seen Triumph on shows like Conan O'Brien his skits are pretty funny. Nobody takes that fake dog seriously. Aiken will have to live with the fallout. There are two sides to being famous and you have to learn to live with both sides. "Rona Yuthasastrakosol" wrote in message ... I'm taking this on to Lauren's post, just because it was the beginning of this thread, not because I think any of what I have to say applies to her. Here's the full article from Rolling Stone Clay Aiken and PETA. The asterisks in the second paragraph were added by me, to draw attention to the context of the comment made by Clay Aiken. from http://www.rollingstone.com/news/new...973&cf=2046795 ---begin paste--- In a landmark display of canine-feline solidarity, Triumph the Insult Comic Dog has lashed out at professed kitty-hater Clay Aiken in a new ad campaign for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. The print ad shows Triumph with a band-aid over his recently neutered doggy-bits and a post-surgery collar, and reads, "Get Neutered: It didn't hurt Clay Aiken." Though the barb was Triumph's own, PETA went along thanks in part to comments that Aiken made in a recent Rolling Stone article. "I think cats are Satan," Aiken said. "There's nothing worse to me than a house cat. When I was about sixteen, I had a kitten and ran over it. *****Seeing that cat die, I actually think that its spirit has haunted me. I wasn't afraid of cats before. But now they scare me to death.*****" "It's a stupid statement," says PETA Vice President Dan Matthews. "We get calls every week from people who throw kittens on barbecues because it's funny. Or people who light cats on fire, or people who drag cats from cars. It's so irresponsible that we wrote him after that interview came out and he never got back to us. So we thought, you know, fair game, let's go for it." According to PETA, with animal shelters overflowing, neutering and spaying cats and dogs saves shelter-workers from having to put animals to death when suitable homes cannot be found. Because Triumph's new album, Come Poop With Me, is full of jokes about losing his private parts, he seemed a perfect spokes-puppet. "There's already been a huge response," says Matthews, whose office has been bombarded by calls from angry Clay-mates. "When we explain why, they understand it a bit better. In the end it's just funny. If you look at the awful thing Clay said about cats, our ad in response is a pretty lighthearted way to even up the score." A spokesman for Clay Aiken had not comment on the ad. DAVID SWANSON ---end paste--- At the risk of being flamed, I think people who thought "Clay called cats "satan" so he must be a bad person and we should hate him and try to ruin his reputation" are not that far off *in spirit* from those who might think, "Clay called cats "satan" so cats must be bad and we should do evil things to them." Two sides of the same coin, in my opinion. rona (donning flame-retardant clothing) -- ***For e-mail, replace .com with .ca Sorry for the inconvenience!*** |
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