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OT Swimming in the ocean off of Florida
This is not that far away and good dang reason I dam sure don't swim in
water that I can't see the bottom SEBASTIAN INLET, Fla. -- A diver may have had a brush with a great white shark off Sebastian Inlet in Brevard County -- and the close encounter was caught on video. The diver posted the video, recorded about 170 feet below the surface, on YouTube after he spotted the shark last week while hunting for Amberjack with a spear gun. The video shows what appears to be a great white just feet in front of the diver before the fish swims away. Marine biologists said the mystery fish has a lot of similarities with a great white but they can't be sure if the fish was that type of shark. Great white sharks can grow to more than 15 feet in length while weighing more than 1,500 pounds http://www.clickorlando.com/news/284...107012011&ts=H |
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OT Swimming in the ocean off of Florida
On Jul 1, 6:47*pm, "Matthew" wrote:
This is not that far away *and good dang reason I dam sure don't swim in water that I can't see the bottom SEBASTIAN INLET, Fla. -- A diver may have had a brush with a great white shark off Sebastian Inlet in Brevard County -- and the close encounter was caught on video. The diver posted the video, recorded about 170 feet below the surface, on YouTube after he spotted the shark last week while hunting for Amberjack with a spear gun. The video shows what appears to be a great white just feet in front of the diver before the fish swims away. Marine biologists said the mystery fish has a lot of similarities with a great white but they can't be sure if the fish was that type of shark. Great white sharks can grow to more than 15 feet in length while weighing more than 1,500 pounds http://www.clickorlando.com/news/284...reets=orlpn&ti.... Heard about this yesterday from an old friend who lives northwest of Orange County. She is from D.C. and didn't know great whites very rare in your area. I haven't been near a real beach (sand, ocean) in 7 years and miss the Atlantic so much I might take the chance of meeting Jaws snout-to-face if I were there. I am glad to hear the reefs are not all barren in FL waters if that dude was after amberjack with his speargun. I used to do that a long time ago. |
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OT Swimming in the ocean off of Florida
"Matthew" wrote in message ng.com... "Jack Campin" wrote in message ... "Matthew" wrote: This is not that far away and good dang reason I dam sure don't swim in water that I can't see the bottom SEBASTIAN INLET, Fla. -- A diver may have had a brush with a great white shark off Sebastian Inlet in Brevard County -- and the close encounter was caught on video. And should you have even contemplated swimming in eastern Scotland, how about a potential nuclear jellyfish disaster? We get swarms like that a couple times a year we just got over one a couple weeks ago in the Daytona Beach Area about 1000 people were stung a week. Once a year in the Gulf of Mexico thousands upon thousands of sharks swarm this was this year videos we are talking extreme close to the shores http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_824731.html What makes seeing that Great White shark in our waters off of Florida it is EXTREMELY rare to see due to the temperature of the water Are you saying that is a good or bad thing? I think I was put off being any way agreeable to Great White sharks by seeing "Jaws" I consider myself very lucky, living where I do. Nothing is likely to kill me, wildlife wise, unless I get in the way of a rutting red deer stag, and I keep away from those in the rutting season. Red deer boys are very unreasonable at that time. We also have only one poisonous snake here in the UK and I've never seen one. Tweed |
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On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 03:33:08 +0100, "Christina Websell"
wrote: We also have only one poisonous snake here in the UK and I've never seen one. There is no such thing as a poisonous snake, in the UK or anywhere else. Casady |
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OT Swimming in the ocean off of Florida
Jack Campin wrote:
Q: Who was the leader of the Pedants Revolt? A: Which Tyler. Being a self-confessed pedant, I'll have to remember that one. -- Wayne M. |
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OT Swimming in the ocean off of Florida
"Matthew" wrote in message ng.com... This is not that far away and good dang reason I dam sure don't swim in water that I can't see the bottom SEBASTIAN INLET, Fla. -- A diver may have had a brush with a great white shark off Sebastian Inlet in Brevard County -- and the close encounter was caught on video. The diver posted the video, recorded about 170 feet below the surface, on YouTube after he spotted the shark last week while hunting for Amberjack with a spear gun. The video shows what appears to be a great white just feet in front of the diver before the fish swims away. Marine biologists said the mystery fish has a lot of similarities with a great white but they can't be sure if the fish was that type of shark. Great white sharks can grow to more than 15 feet in length while weighing more than 1,500 pounds http://www.clickorlando.com/news/284...107012011&ts=H - - - - - - - - - - - - I just returned from a Caribbean cruise, and I snorkeled in Roatan, Honduras. Fortunately, my experience was much tamer than that. The water there is crystal clear, so we could see every detail clear down to the bottom. We swam from the beach to the reef instead of snorkeling from a boat. I had intended to snorkel in Belize, but the water was too rough for the ship even to stay in port--that was the one stop on our itinerary where there was no gangway into a port. Instead, we would have used ship's tenders to get to shore. Tropical Storm Arlene was just starting to cause problems, and waves were strong enough that it would have been dangerous to use the tenders. I was in Figi in January, so I know exactly what they meant by saying it would have been dangerous. In both cases, we actually had beautiful weather but considerable roughness in the sea. In Figi, we were taken to a little island and they *should not* have done so. It was incredibly dangerous when we had to get off the tender and back on the ship later that afternoon--the two boats were slamming against each other, and we easily could have lost an arm or a leg (or a life). MaryL |
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On Jul 5, 7:29*am, "MaryL" wrote:
"Matthew" *wrote This is not that far away *and good dang reason I dam sure don't swim in water that I can't see the bottom SEBASTIAN INLET, Fla. -- A diver may have had a brush with a great white shark off Sebastian Inlet in Brevard County -- and the close encounter was caught on video. The diver posted the video, recorded about 170 feet below the surface, on YouTube after he spotted the shark last week while hunting for Amberjack with a spear gun. The video shows what appears to be a great white just feet in front of the diver before the fish swims away. Marine biologists said the mystery fish has a lot of similarities with a great white but they can't be sure if the fish was that type of shark. Great white sharks can grow to more than 15 feet in length while weighing more than 1,500 pounds http://www.clickorlando.com/news/284...reets=orlpn&ti.... I just returned from a Caribbean cruise, and I snorkeled in Roatan, Honduras. *Fortunately, my experience was much tamer than that. *The water there is crystal clear, so we could see every detail clear down to the bottom. *We swam from the beach to the reef instead of snorkeling from a boat. *I had intended to snorkel in Belize, but the water was too rough for the ship even to stay in port--that was the one stop on our itinerary where there was no gangway into a port. *Instead, we would have used ship's tenders to get to shore. *Tropical Storm Arlene was just starting to cause problems, and waves were strong enough that it would have been dangerous to use the tenders. *I was in Figi in January, so I know exactly what they meant by saying it would have been dangerous. *In both cases, we actually had beautiful weather but considerable roughness in the sea. * In Figi, we were taken to a little island and they *should not* have done so. *It was incredibly dangerous when we had to get off the tender and back on the ship later that afternoon--the two boats were slamming against each other, and we easily could have lost an arm or a leg (or a life). MaryL I am sorry you were frightened by the vessel-changing carelessness of cruise ship personnel. IMHO no possible excuse for that mistreatment of paying passengers. I am the last person to tell you what to do but here is my unsolicited advice about it: My hometown is the "jumping off point" for most of the Caribbean cruise ships (a few hail out of NY and NJ) and there is fierce competition for bookings among the many. Some lines have a bad rep there because of minor mishaps (not life threats) aboard a cruise, like widespread intestinal misery, others have many onboard pool or other accident records (like falls off their artificial "climbing walls")on deck. Bottom line: Due to your experience which lowered your pleasant trip experience *twice* in churning waters offshore, if it were me, I would compose a scathing detailed record pinpointing your two frightening incidents on your recent cruise and send it registered letter with "sign" receipt requirement; pointedly inquire in the letter if there is possible partial refund so that you will be able to *happily* refer their cruise line to friends family and business associates (never mind that you have no assts) for their next cruise choice! Miamians know who does what and how cut-throat the competition is among the Miami- based lines....but no one where you are would and extensive online research will never give you the extent of their competitive one-upsmanship for customers/ passenger bookings. If you have an attorney of any sort....any attorney.....having him/her construct or merely co-sign letter big plus. Many, lmany of the lines home offices are legally licensed off the African coast (forget the country) and so are NOT required to follow USA laws and regs for safety mandates. BUT I am not talking threatening any lawsuits....just failure to be happy (not satisfied) with your cruise experience with them and reluctance to refer their line for repeat business. That will give their cage bars a little resonance, not legal threats.Remember...no USA safety laws. You want partial refund of your cost. Worst case response might be something like, "We regret your experience and will take steps to see it is not repeated...but no refund". Think it over. Forget phoning; too many underlings employed with cruise lines in Miami to get through to someone who can do something. Word of mouth repeat business is everything to these people. |
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"hopitus" wrote in message ... On Jul 5, 7:29 am, "MaryL" wrote: "Matthew" wrote This is not that far away and good dang reason I dam sure don't swim in water that I can't see the bottom SEBASTIAN INLET, Fla. -- A diver may have had a brush with a great white shark off Sebastian Inlet in Brevard County -- and the close encounter was caught on video. The diver posted the video, recorded about 170 feet below the surface, on YouTube after he spotted the shark last week while hunting for Amberjack with a spear gun. The video shows what appears to be a great white just feet in front of the diver before the fish swims away. Marine biologists said the mystery fish has a lot of similarities with a great white but they can't be sure if the fish was that type of shark. Great white sharks can grow to more than 15 feet in length while weighing more than 1,500 pounds http://www.clickorlando.com/news/284...reets=orlpn&ti... I just returned from a Caribbean cruise, and I snorkeled in Roatan, Honduras. Fortunately, my experience was much tamer than that. The water there is crystal clear, so we could see every detail clear down to the bottom. We swam from the beach to the reef instead of snorkeling from a boat. I had intended to snorkel in Belize, but the water was too rough for the ship even to stay in port--that was the one stop on our itinerary where there was no gangway into a port. Instead, we would have used ship's tenders to get to shore. Tropical Storm Arlene was just starting to cause problems, and waves were strong enough that it would have been dangerous to use the tenders. I was in Figi in January, so I know exactly what they meant by saying it would have been dangerous. In both cases, we actually had beautiful weather but considerable roughness in the sea. In Figi, we were taken to a little island and they *should not* have done so. It was incredibly dangerous when we had to get off the tender and back on the ship later that afternoon--the two boats were slamming against each other, and we easily could have lost an arm or a leg (or a life). MaryL I am sorry you were frightened by the vessel-changing carelessness of cruise ship personnel. IMHO no possible excuse for that mistreatment of paying passengers. I am the last person to tell you what to do but here is my unsolicited advice about it: My hometown is the "jumping off point" for most of the Caribbean cruise ships (a few hail out of NY and NJ) and there is fierce competition for bookings among the many. Some lines have a bad rep there because of minor mishaps (not life threats) aboard a cruise, like widespread intestinal misery, others have many onboard pool or other accident records (like falls off their artificial "climbing walls")on deck. Bottom line: Due to your experience which lowered your pleasant trip experience *twice* in churning waters offshore, if it were me, I would compose a scathing detailed record pinpointing your two frightening incidents on your recent cruise and send it registered letter with "sign" receipt requirement; pointedly inquire in the letter if there is possible partial refund so that you will be able to *happily* refer their cruise line to friends family and business associates (never mind that you have no assts) for their next cruise choice! Miamians know who does what and how cut-throat the competition is among the Miami- based lines....but no one where you are would and extensive online research will never give you the extent of their competitive one-upsmanship for customers/ passenger bookings. If you have an attorney of any sort....any attorney.....having him/her construct or merely co-sign letter big plus. Many, lmany of the lines home offices are legally licensed off the African coast (forget the country) and so are NOT required to follow USA laws and regs for safety mandates. BUT I am not talking threatening any lawsuits....just failure to be happy (not satisfied) with your cruise experience with them and reluctance to refer their line for repeat business. That will give their cage bars a little resonance, not legal threats.Remember...no USA safety laws. You want partial refund of your cost. Worst case response might be something like, "We regret your experience and will take steps to see it is not repeated...but no refund". Think it over. Forget phoning; too many underlings employed with cruise lines in Miami to get through to someone who can do something. Word of mouth repeat business is everything to these people. - - - - - - - - - - I was not frightened by the vessel-changing remarks--disappointed not to stop at Belize, but not frightened. Other large ships (Celebrity, for example) made the same decision. On the other hand, I was in Figi in January and I *was* badly frightened by an incident there. A large vessel took us to an island off the coast, and we transferred by tender. When we returned to the larger ship, the two vessels constantly pounded against one-another as we tried to move from one vessel to the other. That truly *was* dangerous, and I have been telling people ever since that it was almost criminal for them to make the transfers in those conditions. We could easily have lost an arm or leg, or even our lives. Now, as to the Norwegian incident: That was disappointing, as I said, rather than frightening. I think we should be entitled to a refund, but everyone on ship was making the same remark and it was clear that we were not going to get anything. I think it would take a class action suit to get anywhere, and I'm not sure that would do any good since this was an act of nature. Actually, we got a "refund" of $8.32 per person!!! That's the amount that would have been paid in taxes to the local government if we had disembarked. Incidentally, there were several other "experiences" on the Norwegian ship that annoyed me much more (incredibly cramped accommodations and only two "complimentary" restaurants, with identical menus). I find it strange for them to even refer to the two restaurants as "complimentary" because we paid for that food with our cruise charges. I have already filled out their service form in great detail, and I plan to post negative comments on one or more of the trip review web sites. I also reported the inferior cabin space while still on board and just received the response that the cabin was "standard." MaryL MaryL |
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On Jul 5, 3:13*pm, "MaryL" wrote:
"hopitus" *wrote in message ... On Jul 5, 7:29 am, "MaryL" wrote: "Matthew" *wrote This is not that far away *and good dang reason I dam sure don't swim in water that I can't see the bottom SEBASTIAN INLET, Fla. -- A diver may have had a brush with a great white shark off Sebastian Inlet in Brevard County -- and the close encounter was caught on video. The diver posted the video, recorded about 170 feet below the surface, on YouTube after he spotted the shark last week while hunting for Amberjack with a spear gun. The video shows what appears to be a great white just feet in front of the diver before the fish swims away. Marine biologists said the mystery fish has a lot of similarities with a great white but they can't be sure if the fish was that type of shark. Great white sharks can grow to more than 15 feet in length while weighing more than 1,500 pounds http://www.clickorlando.com/news/284...reets=orlpn&ti.... I just returned from a Caribbean cruise, and I snorkeled in Roatan, Honduras. *Fortunately, my experience was much tamer than that. *The water there is crystal clear, so we could see every detail clear down to the bottom. *We swam from the beach to the reef instead of snorkeling from a boat. *I had intended to snorkel in Belize, but the water was too rough for the ship even to stay in port--that was the one stop on our itinerary where there was no gangway into a port. *Instead, we would have used ship's tenders to get to shore. *Tropical Storm Arlene was just starting to cause problems, and waves were strong enough that it would have been dangerous to use the tenders. *I was in Figi in January, so I know exactly what they meant by saying it would have been dangerous. *In both cases, we actually had beautiful weather but considerable roughness in the sea. * In Figi, we were taken to a little island and they *should not* have done so. *It was incredibly dangerous when we had to get off the tender and back on the ship later that afternoon--the two boats were slamming against each other, and we easily could have lost an arm or a leg (or a life). MaryL I am sorry you were frightened by the vessel-changing carelessness of cruise ship personnel. IMHO no possible excuse for that mistreatment of paying passengers. I am the last person to tell you what to do but here is my unsolicited advice about it: My hometown is the "jumping off point" for most of the Caribbean cruise ships (a few hail out of NY and NJ) and there is fierce competition for bookings among the many. Some lines have a bad rep there because of minor mishaps (not life threats) aboard a cruise, like widespread intestinal misery, others have many onboard pool or other accident records (like falls off their artificial "climbing walls")on deck. Bottom line: Due to your experience which lowered your pleasant trip experience *twice* in churning waters offshore, if it were me, I would compose a scathing detailed record pinpointing your two frightening incidents on your recent cruise and send it registered letter with "sign" receipt requirement; pointedly inquire in the letter if there is possible partial refund so that you will be able to *happily* refer their cruise line to friends family and business associates *(never mind that you have no assts) for their next cruise choice! Miamians know who does what and how cut-throat the competition is among the Miami- based lines....but no one where you are would and extensive online research will never give you the extent of their competitive one-upsmanship for customers/ passenger bookings. If you have an attorney of any sort....any attorney.....having him/her construct or merely co-sign letter big plus. Many, lmany of the lines home offices are legally licensed off the African coast (forget the country) and so are NOT required to follow USA laws and regs for safety mandates. BUT I am not talking threatening any lawsuits....just failure to be happy (not satisfied) with your cruise experience with them and reluctance to refer their line for repeat business. That will give their cage bars a little resonance, not legal threats.Remember...no USA safety laws. You want partial refund of your cost. Worst case response might be something like, "We regret your experience and will take steps to see it is not repeated...but no refund". Think it over. Forget phoning; too many underlings employed with cruise lines in Miami to get through to someone who can do something. Word of mouth repeat business is everything to these people. - - - - - - - - - - I was not frightened by the vessel-changing remarks--disappointed not to stop at Belize, but not frightened. *Other large ships (Celebrity, for example) made the same decision. *On the other hand, I was in Figi in January and I *was* badly frightened by an incident there. *A large vessel took us to an island off the coast, and we transferred by tender. *When we returned to the larger ship, the two vessels constantly pounded against one-another as we tried to move from one vessel to the other. *That truly *was* dangerous, and I have been telling people ever since that it was almost criminal for them to make the transfers in those conditions. *We could easily have lost an arm or leg, or even our lives. *Now, as to the Norwegian incident: *That was disappointing, as I said, rather than frightening. *I think we should be entitled to a refund, but everyone on ship was making the same remark and it was clear that we were not going to get anything. *I think it would take a class action suit to get anywhere, and I'm not sure that would do any good since this was an act of nature. Actually, we got a "refund" of $8.32 per person!!! *That's the amount that would have been paid in taxes to the local government if we had disembarked. Incidentally, there were several other "experiences" on the Norwegian ship that annoyed me much more (incredibly cramped accommodations and only two "complimentary" restaurants, with identical menus). *I find it strange for them to even refer to the two restaurants as "complimentary" because we paid for that food with our cruise charges. *I have already filled out their service form in great detail, and I plan to post negative comments on one or more of the trip review web sites. *I also reported the inferior cabin space while still on board and just received the response that the cabin was "standard." MaryL MaryL I have become confused by the fact that you may have been on two or more different vessels. The personnel onboard are powerless to grant refunds, as I said. Long story short: going to a columnist at your local media (or a story editor at your local tv station) works wonders here, but you don't seem the type to take that on. I found out long ago when I was young and skinny that "standard" cabin accomodation on a cruise ship means "small closet size". I had a great time then, though, and when we hit rough water out in the Bermuda Triangle, all passengers got deadly sick and my BFF and I cultivated our waiters in the Dining Room and were brought our absolute fill of New England broiled lobsters; we were the only passengers there. At one point our table service sailed across the room but our attentive waiters quickly replenished all. She was "post-polio" so I had the exciting top bunk and during rolls of the ship was tossed out of bed a coupole times, sending both of us ROFL literally. The above scenario would be worse than annoying unless you were 19 like we were. |
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"hopitus" wrote in message ... skip long conversation The above scenario would be worse than annoying unless you were 19 like we were. - - - - - - - - - - - Yes, age has a lot to do with it. In addition, there were four of us sharing this "stateroom" (...big stretch to think of it that way). That is something I would never do again. It was supposedly a "standard" cabin for four, but that meant that two twins were placed side-by-side. The third (my bed) was a trundle that was pulled out from underneath one of the twins. The trundle was obviously much lower than the twin. The three beds together stretched wall-to-wall. The fourth was the pull-down "bunk" (above my head). A small desk and ladder to the bunk were at my head. The result was that I had only a few inches of space to try to lift/maneuver myself out of bed. It was *very* difficult. There also was no room for luggage, so imagine four people who packed more than we really needed trying to negotiate in the postage-stamp-sized room. My sister and I shared a room for two on the same cruise line in year 2000, and that room was larger than this room (supposedly configured for four) was. MaryL |
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