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Old August 22nd 07, 01:49 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav,alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.misc
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http://www.stopanimalabuse.blogspot.com/

Count the seconds...

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Old August 22nd 07, 02:13 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav,alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.misc
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"Charlie Wilkes" wrote in message
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You're right, that was a horrible picture to watch. But, please take into
account that it was a healthy kitten being drowned, not one that was
seriously injured, in extreme pain and bleeding to death. You tell me there
wouldn't be any difference.


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Old August 22nd 07, 02:27 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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"Matthew" wrote in message
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"cybercat"


The person he is arguing with is in another group and does not come
here.

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Not true. He is arguing with a poster going by the name "Upscale" in the
thread entitled "Cat Pregnancy Question" on this group.And count me amongst
those who did not view the video and would agree that anyone who would film
such a thing is sick.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.


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Old August 22nd 07, 04:03 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav,alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.misc
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:13:33 -0400, Upscale wrote:

"Charlie Wilkes" wrote in message
http://www.stopanimalabuse.blogspot.com/


You're right, that was a horrible picture to watch. But, please take
into account that it was a healthy kitten being drowned, not one that
was seriously injured, in extreme pain and bleeding to death. You tell
me there wouldn't be any difference.


Sure, there's a difference. Drowning is not the worst possible way for
an animal to die. But it is not a humane means of killing. If a vet
isn't available, a gunshot or a crushing blow to the skull, with a large
hammer, are merciful ways to kill an injured small animal. Wringing the
neck is acceptable for birds, if it's done properly. I have been over
this unpleasant subject with veterinarians and biologists because I've
had to put down domestic animals as well as injured wildlife, and I
wanted to do it right.

Charlie
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Old August 22nd 07, 12:28 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav,alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.misc
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That was disgusting. I wept for one of the Lord's creatures seemingly
drowned for no reason. REAL tears and I'm a 56 year old guy.
I got my Tiger when I saved him from a drowning.
I was out walking and a guy was drowning a litter - Tiger's little brothers
and sisters were semi-floating - already gone, when I stumbled on this.
I gave the guy such a kicking and knocking about. Tiger can't have been more
than four weeks when I saved him.
I went back and collected the other four later and buried them.
Tiger's five now, he's my best buddy. I wonder if he remembers? He's SO
affectionate.
Whoever made that video should be drowned themselves.
*******s.

Hughie



"Charlie Wilkes" wrote in message
news
http://www.stopanimalabuse.blogspot.com/

Count the seconds...

Charlie



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Old August 22nd 07, 01:11 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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On 22 Aug, 00:41, "cybercat" wrote:
"bookie" wrote in message

oups.com...





On 21 Aug, 19:55, Charlie Wilkes
wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 07:21:26 -0700, bookie wrote:
On 21 Aug, 04:44, Charlie Wilkes
wrote:
http://www.stopanimalabuse.blogspot.com/


Count the seconds...


Charlie


am certainly not clicking on this link, why do you feel the need to
post
this sort of thing?


I have been carrying on a debate with someone who thinks it's ok to drown
cats, as a form of euthanasia. I don't agree.


you must be rather sick to do so


Really? You didn't object when I posted a link to pictures of someone
who had died with a burning tire around his neck.


Charlie


i didn't click on that either, didn't even register that you did put
that up at all, but then i am not particularly moved by stories of
human tragedy, most humans are vicious destructive creatures and the
world would probably be better off without a fair few of us to be
honest.
kittens are cute, humans are not, simple
and I don't think that killing a cat or dog beforeit's time is really
due (it is terminally ill and in serious pain unlikely to improve) can
be considered euthanasia, it is murder plain and simple, the snuffing
out of a an innocent life before it has even had a chance for
absolutely no reason.


Charlie's reeled you in, "hook, line, and sinker." The only reason to post a
link to a video like this in a cat group is to upset people. Some call it
trolling. Had nobody been sucked in by this horse ****, I would not have
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i did think it was going to be a joke or something, but didn't click
on the link just in case it wasn't. puttign healthy animals to sleep
is just a topic i don't wnat to have to contemplate or see, and yes
putting up something with this kind of header on this site would be
trolling

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Old August 22nd 07, 01:22 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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On 22 Aug, 01:41, Charlie Wilkes
wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:39:51 -0700, bookie wrote:

i didn't click on that either, didn't even register that you did put
that up at all, but then i am not particularly moved by stories of human
tragedy, most humans are vicious destructive creatures and the world
would probably be better off without a fair few of us to be honest.
kittens are cute, humans are not, simple and I don't think that killing
a cat or dog beforeit's time is really due (it is terminally ill and in
serious pain unlikely to improve) can be considered euthanasia, it is
murder plain and simple, the snuffing out of a an innocent life before
it has even had a chance for absolutely no reason.


Wouldn't it be nice if lofty sentiments like yours made the world a
better place? But they don't. There are more cats than there are people
who want them, so whether you call it euthanasia or murder, many of them
are being killed every day of the year. I think this killing should be
done as humanely as possible, so I object when someone comes into this
group and argues that drowning is a reasonable way to terminate the life
of an injured or unwanted animal. That is why I posted this link... no
one is forced to look at it, but people who say drowning is a humane way
to kill an animal probably should take a look, eh?

Charlie


i think that everyone in the world should be made to have a cat, like
a law or something, and to that it also be some sort of universal law
that the cat of each household is in charge and shoudl be worshipped,
much as the egyptians used to do and as cats believe should still be
the case. That way people would realise that cats are beautiful
creatures and that we are very lucky to be allowed to co-exist with
and after a while of this people would be so overawed by their cats
beauty that they would all stop fighting and there would be world
peace.
also anyone weird humans out there who claim to not like cats
(mentally unhinged, insane types) would be given intensive therapy to
make them see the light and they would learn to adore pusscats and
they would then be happy again.

think about; how could people have the time to fight wars if they are
spending the whole time cleaning out dirty litter trays every couple
of hours like I do?
I also believe that if you got all the leaders of all the countries in
all the world and all the leaders or terrorist groups and got them a
in a big room round a big round table and put a couple of kittens in
the middle of the table and left the kittens to do what comes
naturally to kittens, there would also be world peace. How could
anyone think abot fighting and war and killing when kittens are
playing? you can't , it's just impossible, you can't even keep a
straight face.
try it now, download a vid of kittens playing from youtube and you
just try not to smile

anyway thats what I think, more cats less people and the world would
be a much happier place

bookie

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Old August 22nd 07, 01:27 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav,alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.misc
bookie
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On 22 Aug, 12:28, "Shug" wrote:
That was disgusting. I wept for one of the Lord's creatures seemingly
drowned for no reason. REAL tears and I'm a 56 year old guy.
I got my Tiger when I saved him from a drowning.
I was out walking and a guy was drowning a litter - Tiger's little brothers
and sisters were semi-floating - already gone, when I stumbled on this.
I gave the guy such a kicking and knocking about. Tiger can't have been more
than four weeks when I saved him.
I went back and collected the other four later and buried them.
Tiger's five now, he's my best buddy. I wonder if he remembers? He's SO
affectionate.
Whoever made that video should be drowned themselves.
*******s.

Hughie

"Charlie Wilkes" wrote in message

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http://www.stopanimalabuse.blogspot.com/


Count the seconds...


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i agree and good for you for saving the little fella, he will give you
unconditional love forever and you now have a friend for life.
if it is going to be difficult to home your kittens then have your cat
spayed or neutered in the first place, there is no excuse for nto
doing so these days. a little while a go there was a 'free neutering
week' being run by local animal rescue society round here (local
branch of RSPCA) and anyway if you get a cat from the cats protection
they will get you cheaper neutering.
there si no reason to kill a healthy kitten, give it a home yourself
since it is probably your fault it was born way if you could not be
bothered to get your cat 'sorted' in the first place.

hugs and kisses to little tiger, bless his furry little heart, i hope
you are together for a long time to come.
bookie

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Old August 22nd 07, 10:01 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav,alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.misc
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Charlie Wilkes wrote:

Sure, there's a difference. Drowning is not the worst possible way for
an animal to die. But it is not a humane means of killing.


Oh STFU Charlie. You're the last one who should be debating the
"humanity" of animal cruelty. You're the one who tied a dog up and
left it for 3 days without food as a form of punishment and later
posted a picture of your cat hanging from its harness "for fun".
You're just a sick, warped ****, and anyone who has been around here
longer than 5 minutes knows it.

You still need a reason why you didn't get Conan? This thread proves
why. Asshole.

-L.

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Old August 23rd 07, 12:00 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav,alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.misc
bookie
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On 22 Aug, 22:01, "-L." wrote:
Charlie Wilkes wrote:

Sure, there's a difference. Drowning is not the worst possible way for
an animal to die. But it is not a humane means of killing.


Oh STFU Charlie. You're the last one who should be debating the
"humanity" of animal cruelty. You're the one who tied a dog up and
left it for 3 days without food as a form of punishment and later
posted a picture of your cat hanging from its harness "for fun".
You're just a sick, warped ****, and anyone who has been around here
longer than 5 minutes knows it.

You still need a reason why you didn't get Conan? This thread proves
why. Asshole.

-L.


what?

are you serious?

he with held food from a dog for 3 days??!!?? as a 'punishment'??!!!

dogs do not need punishing, they do not do things which require
punishing, if they do something which we find unacceptable then they
will nto hav done it out of malice or just to be 'naughty' or 'bad',
all they need is better training and to know what is acceptable using
POSITIVE reinforcement. by punishing a dog all you get is a ocnfused,
stressed and unhappy dog who will probably go on to produce even more
unacceptable behaviours out of confusion (which will again of course
be interpreted by some idiot human as the dog being naughty and said
canine will probably then be punished for doing somethign he didn't
know was 'wrong' in the first place but which is his way of coping
with stress of an uncaring owner, and thus the cycle begins and
spirals out of control).

when people come out with crap like 'that dog needs to be punished' it
is usually the owners who need to be punished for not training their
dog properly and not being consistent in their approach, that is the
bottom line. Dogs just want to please their owners and be accepted and
be part of the pack and the family, they would not knowlingly do
anything which would anger theri 'master' or cause them to be ousted
from the pack would they? anyone who thinks otherwise should get a
grip, and definintely NOT get a dog.

oh god I'm off again, i just can't bear the idea of some poor
frightened confused dog, wondering why on earth the master he loves so
much is treating him this way and what on earth he has done to get
this treatment, it just makes my heart weep. people who want to have a
dog shoudl think about what the world looks like from the dog's
perspective first and how the behaviours and actions of humans will be
interpreted by the dog, and first and foremost accept that dogs are
not capable of willfully doing 'evil' and 'naughty' things.

christ alive, this has totally ruined my day now

bookie

 




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