VERY LONG RANT - not cat related - sorry

Jojo, God bless you. You are a fine, patient woman. When you get your degree
you'll show 'em all. Jazz and I hi-five you.
Jazz & his mama

--

Irulan
from the stars we came, to the stars we return
from now until the end of time


"JoJo" wrote in message
...
I just need to rant to anyone who will listen. I am 37 years old and a
few
years ago decided it was time to go to college and get that oh-so
important
piece of paper called a degree. I start off "easy" - two year community
college, get my associates in three years (keep in mind work full time).
I
took three courses a semester and had time to use facilities, breath,
maybe
read a little something enjoyable.

Well "half" a degree isn't good enough, we know in order to go anywhere we
need the BS degree - the one I fondly call the bullsh*t degree. I tried
Penn State - too much for traditional students as half the courses I
needed
were offered during the day - did I mention I work? Full time? So after
a
semester there and some course that tells me Barbie was/is a pop icon (I'm
still scratching my head what the hell Barbie has to do w/business degree)
we move on. Ok, fine we need to find a college that will work with
adults.

Enter University of Phoenix. Classes are five weeks long, no more than 10
hours of homework, built for working adults, team work as well so work is
"split". Sounds good to me, where do I sign?

Problem one - one five weeks into the next no breaks.

Problem two - I have yet to have less than 10 hours of homework, and I'm
almost finished....what happened to working adults? That does not include
time to READ - which I can't find the time to do (did I mention I work for
a
living???)

Problem three - learning teams - the worst concept to ever come to life.
In
theory it sounds good, in reality - oh boy. I didn't know colleges
permitted illiterate (or borderline illiterate) into school - guess I was
wrong. No writing, math or reading tests are required - should have heard
warning bells, but didn't. So here I am in a team of four - two of us
having the ability to write fairly well. Maybe punctuation or grammer is
off a bit, but for most part legible. Then there are the others. One
tries
to impress by using large words, so by the time he gets thru constructing
a
sentence, the meaning is gone. But his stuff is fairly understandable.
The
last team member - how in the hell this woman got out of high school blows
my mind. She cannot even put a simple sentence together, I had no clue
what
her point was, nothing made sense. So it is up to me to put paper
together
and clean up this mess of a paper so my grade is not affected by the poor
work of others. Those two finally quit, got another one - woman of God
don't ya know. Three issues with this one - of course she can't write,
second she sends me religious emails which I find presumptious of her - I
don't send her things that would cause her hair to curl, so don't send me
religious emails. And lastly and most important, she does not like
cats!!!!!! Now I realize that most colleges probably have their share of
illiterates, but they are responsible for their own grade, in a team,
their
poor work reflects on the entire team.

As time has gone on I have gotten more verbal in my complaints to
employees
of UOP. Starting a new class this week, guy eats/sleeps/breaths UOP -
well
boy did I get off on the wrong foot. Explained problems with first
assignment, course is waste of my time (intro to computers and info
systems,
been thru this at two other colleges but they say I have to take it as it
is
different - just like the algebra class at Penn State was different than
the
one at my community college (same thing). He tells me I should find a
college that is willing to cater to my whims - of course that just ticks
me
off even more - so I sent him a sarcastically polite email about what is
wrong w/UOP and my very valid reasons why. And do I need to point out
that
I am a PAYING customer, therefore the customer is "always" right - he is
my
employee, I am not some meek little high school student forced to sit
there
and take whatever they dish out. I am empowered now being the "adult"
(haha) that I am.

So I'm crabby today, not only do the staff and teachers not give two hoots
about me, but I just spent FIVE hours doing the TEAM assignment - this
does
NOT include the FOUR hours I spent on my own paper over the weekend. Plus
I
have work, you know stuff I am paid to do, up to my eyeballs. I no longer
have time to relax let alone read. If dust were a commodity I'd be rich -
who has the time to clean?

So I am a little stressed at the moment and just needed to go on one heck
of
a rant.

So my overall question(s)
1. Why in the hell am I doing this?????
2. What exactly is the degree in? I'm beginning to think insanity,
although they tell me it's bachelors in business management
3. From insanity, exactly how far away is one from blithering idiot?
(at least I'll be a blithering idiot with a degree and house full of
cats).

So please, forgive my long-winded rant. I needed an outlet and decided
this
was as good as any. Plus I have something else on my agenda - if anyone
even entertains the idea of going to UOP - DON'T DO IT! I don't even have
a
family (real - meaning kids), I have no clue how others can do it. I
would
really like to start my own newsgroup on the pitfalls of UOP.

Thank you for listening. I'm going to settle my fur back down now.


--
JoJo
http://home.comcast.net/~zookeepr/Index.htm

Jojo, God bless you. You are a fine, patient woman. When you get your degree
you'll show 'em all. Jazz and I hi-five you.
Jazz & his mama

--

Irulan
from the stars we came, to the stars we return
from now until the end of time


"JoJo" wrote in message
...
I just need to rant to anyone who will listen. I am 37 years old and a
few
years ago decided it was time to go to college and get that oh-so
important
piece of paper called a degree. I start off "easy" - two year community
college, get my associates in three years (keep in mind work full time).
I
took three courses a semester and had time to use facilities, breath,
maybe
read a little something enjoyable.

Well "half" a degree isn't good enough, we know in order to go anywhere we
need the BS degree - the one I fondly call the bullsh*t degree. I tried
Penn State - too much for traditional students as half the courses I
needed
were offered during the day - did I mention I work? Full time? So after
a
semester there and some course that tells me Barbie was/is a pop icon (I'm
still scratching my head what the hell Barbie has to do w/business degree)
we move on. Ok, fine we need to find a college that will work with
adults.

Enter University of Phoenix. Classes are five weeks long, no more than 10
hours of homework, built for working adults, team work as well so work is
"split". Sounds good to me, where do I sign?

Problem one - one five weeks into the next no breaks.

Problem two - I have yet to have less than 10 hours of homework, and I'm
almost finished....what happened to working adults? That does not include
time to READ - which I can't find the time to do (did I mention I work for
a
living???)

Problem three - learning teams - the worst concept to ever come to life.
In
theory it sounds good, in reality - oh boy. I didn't know colleges
permitted illiterate (or borderline illiterate) into school - guess I was
wrong. No writing, math or reading tests are required - should have heard
warning bells, but didn't. So here I am in a team of four - two of us
having the ability to write fairly well. Maybe punctuation or grammer is
off a bit, but for most part legible. Then there are the others. One
tries
to impress by using large words, so by the time he gets thru constructing
a
sentence, the meaning is gone. But his stuff is fairly understandable.
The
last team member - how in the hell this woman got out of high school blows
my mind. She cannot even put a simple sentence together, I had no clue
what
her point was, nothing made sense. So it is up to me to put paper
together
and clean up this mess of a paper so my grade is not affected by the poor
work of others. Those two finally quit, got another one - woman of God
don't ya know. Three issues with this one - of course she can't write,
second she sends me religious emails which I find presumptious of her - I
don't send her things that would cause her hair to curl, so don't send me
religious emails. And lastly and most important, she does not like
cats!!!!!! Now I realize that most colleges probably have their share of
illiterates, but they are responsible for their own grade, in a team,
their
poor work reflects on the entire team.

As time has gone on I have gotten more verbal in my complaints to
employees
of UOP. Starting a new class this week, guy eats/sleeps/breaths UOP -
well
boy did I get off on the wrong foot. Explained problems with first
assignment, course is waste of my time (intro to computers and info
systems,
been thru this at two other colleges but they say I have to take it as it
is
different - just like the algebra class at Penn State was different than
the
one at my community college (same thing). He tells me I should find a
college that is willing to cater to my whims - of course that just ticks
me
off even more - so I sent him a sarcastically polite email about what is
wrong w/UOP and my very valid reasons why. And do I need to point out
that
I am a PAYING customer, therefore the customer is "always" right - he is
my
employee, I am not some meek little high school student forced to sit
there
and take whatever they dish out. I am empowered now being the "adult"
(haha) that I am.

So I'm crabby today, not only do the staff and teachers not give two hoots
about me, but I just spent FIVE hours doing the TEAM assignment - this
does
NOT include the FOUR hours I spent on my own paper over the weekend. Plus
I
have work, you know stuff I am paid to do, up to my eyeballs. I no longer
have time to relax let alone read. If dust were a commodity I'd be rich -
who has the time to clean?

So I am a little stressed at the moment and just needed to go on one heck
of
a rant.

So my overall question(s)
1. Why in the hell am I doing this?????
2. What exactly is the degree in? I'm beginning to think insanity,
although they tell me it's bachelors in business management
3. From insanity, exactly how far away is one from blithering idiot?
(at least I'll be a blithering idiot with a degree and house full of
cats).

So please, forgive my long-winded rant. I needed an outlet and decided
this
was as good as any. Plus I have something else on my agenda - if anyone
even entertains the idea of going to UOP - DON'T DO IT! I don't even have
a
family (real - meaning kids), I have no clue how others can do it. I
would
really like to start my own newsgroup on the pitfalls of UOP.

Thank you for listening. I'm going to settle my fur back down now.


--
JoJo
http://home.comcast.net/~zookeepr/Index.htm

Jojo, God bless you. You are a fine, patient woman. When you get your degree
you'll show 'em all. Jazz and I hi-five you.
Jazz & his mama

--

Irulan
from the stars we came, to the stars we return
from now until the end of time


"JoJo" wrote in message
...
I just need to rant to anyone who will listen. I am 37 years old and a
few
years ago decided it was time to go to college and get that oh-so
important
piece of paper called a degree. I start off "easy" - two year community
college, get my associates in three years (keep in mind work full time).
I
took three courses a semester and had time to use facilities, breath,
maybe
read a little something enjoyable.

Well "half" a degree isn't good enough, we know in order to go anywhere we
need the BS degree - the one I fondly call the bullsh*t degree. I tried
Penn State - too much for traditional students as half the courses I
needed
were offered during the day - did I mention I work? Full time? So after
a
semester there and some course that tells me Barbie was/is a pop icon (I'm
still scratching my head what the hell Barbie has to do w/business degree)
we move on. Ok, fine we need to find a college that will work with
adults.

Enter University of Phoenix. Classes are five weeks long, no more than 10
hours of homework, built for working adults, team work as well so work is
"split". Sounds good to me, where do I sign?

Problem one - one five weeks into the next no breaks.

Problem two - I have yet to have less than 10 hours of homework, and I'm
almost finished....what happened to working adults? That does not include
time to READ - which I can't find the time to do (did I mention I work for
a
living???)

Problem three - learning teams - the worst concept to ever come to life.
In
theory it sounds good, in reality - oh boy. I didn't know colleges
permitted illiterate (or borderline illiterate) into school - guess I was
wrong. No writing, math or reading tests are required - should have heard
warning bells, but didn't. So here I am in a team of four - two of us
having the ability to write fairly well. Maybe punctuation or grammer is
off a bit, but for most part legible. Then there are the others. One
tries
to impress by using large words, so by the time he gets thru constructing
a
sentence, the meaning is gone. But his stuff is fairly understandable.
The
last team member - how in the hell this woman got out of high school blows
my mind. She cannot even put a simple sentence together, I had no clue
what
her point was, nothing made sense. So it is up to me to put paper
together
and clean up this mess of a paper so my grade is not affected by the poor
work of others. Those two finally quit, got another one - woman of God
don't ya know. Three issues with this one - of course she can't write,
second she sends me religious emails which I find presumptious of her - I
don't send her things that would cause her hair to curl, so don't send me
religious emails. And lastly and most important, she does not like
cats!!!!!! Now I realize that most colleges probably have their share of
illiterates, but they are responsible for their own grade, in a team,
their
poor work reflects on the entire team.

As time has gone on I have gotten more verbal in my complaints to
employees
of UOP. Starting a new class this week, guy eats/sleeps/breaths UOP -
well
boy did I get off on the wrong foot. Explained problems with first
assignment, course is waste of my time (intro to computers and info
systems,
been thru this at two other colleges but they say I have to take it as it
is
different - just like the algebra class at Penn State was different than
the
one at my community college (same thing). He tells me I should find a
college that is willing to cater to my whims - of course that just ticks
me
off even more - so I sent him a sarcastically polite email about what is
wrong w/UOP and my very valid reasons why. And do I need to point out
that
I am a PAYING customer, therefore the customer is "always" right - he is
my
employee, I am not some meek little high school student forced to sit
there
and take whatever they dish out. I am empowered now being the "adult"
(haha) that I am.

So I'm crabby today, not only do the staff and teachers not give two hoots
about me, but I just spent FIVE hours doing the TEAM assignment - this
does
NOT include the FOUR hours I spent on my own paper over the weekend. Plus
I
have work, you know stuff I am paid to do, up to my eyeballs. I no longer
have time to relax let alone read. If dust were a commodity I'd be rich -
who has the time to clean?

So I am a little stressed at the moment and just needed to go on one heck
of
a rant.

So my overall question(s)
1. Why in the hell am I doing this?????
2. What exactly is the degree in? I'm beginning to think insanity,
although they tell me it's bachelors in business management
3. From insanity, exactly how far away is one from blithering idiot?
(at least I'll be a blithering idiot with a degree and house full of
cats).

So please, forgive my long-winded rant. I needed an outlet and decided
this
was as good as any. Plus I have something else on my agenda - if anyone
even entertains the idea of going to UOP - DON'T DO IT! I don't even have
a
family (real - meaning kids), I have no clue how others can do it. I
would
really like to start my own newsgroup on the pitfalls of UOP.

Thank you for listening. I'm going to settle my fur back down now.


--
JoJo
http://home.comcast.net/~zookeepr/Index.htm

"JoJo" wrote
snip

So please, forgive my long-winded rant. I needed an outlet and decided
this
was as good as any.

It's OK, JoJo. pats back You can rant and rave all you want, we're here
for you. Wish I could do something more, but the best I can do is send lots
of purrs your way and hope your situation improves.

--
Marina, Frank and Nikki
Email marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi
Pics at http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/frankiennikki

"JoJo" wrote
snip

So please, forgive my long-winded rant. I needed an outlet and decided
this
was as good as any.

It's OK, JoJo. pats back You can rant and rave all you want, we're here
for you. Wish I could do something more, but the best I can do is send lots
of purrs your way and hope your situation improves.

--
Marina, Frank and Nikki
Email marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi
Pics at http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/frankiennikki

"JoJo" wrote
snip

So please, forgive my long-winded rant. I needed an outlet and decided
this
was as good as any.

It's OK, JoJo. pats back You can rant and rave all you want, we're here
for you. Wish I could do something more, but the best I can do is send lots
of purrs your way and hope your situation improves.

--
Marina, Frank and Nikki
Email marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi
Pics at http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/frankiennikki

"Takayuki" wrote

I graduated from Thomas Edison two weeks ago,

Congratulations, Tak! So what is your title now?

--
Marina, Frank and Nikki
Email marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi
Pics at http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/frankiennikki

"Takayuki" wrote

I graduated from Thomas Edison two weeks ago,

Congratulations, Tak! So what is your title now?

--
Marina, Frank and Nikki
Email marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi
Pics at http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/frankiennikki

"Takayuki" wrote

I graduated from Thomas Edison two weeks ago,

Congratulations, Tak! So what is your title now?

--
Marina, Frank and Nikki
Email marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi
Pics at http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/frankiennikki

JoJo wrote:
So please, forgive my long-winded rant. I needed an outlet and
decided this was as good as any. Plus I have something else on my
agenda - if anyone even entertains the idea of going to UOP - DON'T
DO IT! I don't even have a family (real - meaning kids), I have no
clue how others can do it. I would really like to start my own
newsgroup on the pitfalls of UOP.

Thank you for listening. I'm going to settle my fur back down now.


Awwww, you have my sympathy. I worked with a guy attending the U of M in
Memphis and a number of his classes had that "team approach" crap. There
were always only one or two people, him being one of them, who did any of
the real work. And he also worked full time and was raising 2 kids. It's a
stupid way to assign classwork in any setting except perhaps Kindergarten.
I feel for you.

Jill