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  #91  
Old March 12th 04, 06:59 AM
Paul Stamler
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cindys wrote in message
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Actually, I was serious. I'm not Jewish and am very interested in other
faiths. My question was intentional. YS made it sound as if the animal
*itself* would be punished if it were to be neutered or spayed. I'm

just
trying to understand. Really!

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Oh! No, the animal would not be punished. In Judaism, God only judges
people.


On the other hand, I read in Leviticus that in the case of the abomination
of sexual relations between a human and an animal, the human is condemned to
death, and so is the animal. I understand that this isn't God judging the
animal and condemning it, but nonetheless it always struck me as unfair to a
creature who is not capable of understanding the law.

Peace,
Paul

  #92  
Old March 12th 04, 06:59 AM
Paul Stamler
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cindys wrote in message
...

Actually, I was serious. I'm not Jewish and am very interested in other
faiths. My question was intentional. YS made it sound as if the animal
*itself* would be punished if it were to be neutered or spayed. I'm

just
trying to understand. Really!

----------
Oh! No, the animal would not be punished. In Judaism, God only judges
people.


On the other hand, I read in Leviticus that in the case of the abomination
of sexual relations between a human and an animal, the human is condemned to
death, and so is the animal. I understand that this isn't God judging the
animal and condemning it, but nonetheless it always struck me as unfair to a
creature who is not capable of understanding the law.

Peace,
Paul

  #93  
Old March 12th 04, 12:59 PM
Tommy B
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Have you ever heard of the Kabbalah?
Tom

"Cat Protector" wrote in message
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I have a belief in the metaphysical despite being Jewish. I believe cats
have souls and spend much time on the astral plane. I am sure this ys

person
will probably say Jews are not allowed to be metaphysical and that is a

sin
to believe cats have souls. Good thing I was born Reform because many of

us
don't follow the rules of Jewish law.

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"kilikini" wrote in message
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I thought that all animals were pure by nature. How can an animal get
*better* in the eyes of the spirit world, because their owner loves

them?
I
don't understand.
kilikini








  #94  
Old March 12th 04, 12:59 PM
Tommy B
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Have you ever heard of the Kabbalah?
Tom

"Cat Protector" wrote in message
news:Foa4c.1524$wg.184@okepread01...
I have a belief in the metaphysical despite being Jewish. I believe cats
have souls and spend much time on the astral plane. I am sure this ys

person
will probably say Jews are not allowed to be metaphysical and that is a

sin
to believe cats have souls. Good thing I was born Reform because many of

us
don't follow the rules of Jewish law.

--
Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs!
www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek

Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time!
www.catgalaxymedia.com
"kilikini" wrote in message
...
I thought that all animals were pure by nature. How can an animal get
*better* in the eyes of the spirit world, because their owner loves

them?
I
don't understand.
kilikini








  #95  
Old March 12th 04, 02:07 PM
cindys
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"Paul Stamler" wrote in message
...
cindys wrote in message
...

Actually, I was serious. I'm not Jewish and am very interested in

other
faiths. My question was intentional. YS made it sound as if the

animal
*itself* would be punished if it were to be neutered or spayed. I'm

just
trying to understand. Really!

----------
Oh! No, the animal would not be punished. In Judaism, God only judges
people.


On the other hand, I read in Leviticus that in the case of the abomination
of sexual relations between a human and an animal, the human is condemned

to
death, and so is the animal. I understand that this isn't God judging the
animal and condemning it, but nonetheless it always struck me as unfair to

a
creature who is not capable of understanding the law.

----------
An animal that has killed someone is also put to death. In both cases, the
torah commandment is for humans to kill the animal. This is quite different
from the animals' being the recipient of post-death divine retribution from
God, which I believe was the other poster's question.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.


  #96  
Old March 12th 04, 02:07 PM
cindys
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"Paul Stamler" wrote in message
...
cindys wrote in message
...

Actually, I was serious. I'm not Jewish and am very interested in

other
faiths. My question was intentional. YS made it sound as if the

animal
*itself* would be punished if it were to be neutered or spayed. I'm

just
trying to understand. Really!

----------
Oh! No, the animal would not be punished. In Judaism, God only judges
people.


On the other hand, I read in Leviticus that in the case of the abomination
of sexual relations between a human and an animal, the human is condemned

to
death, and so is the animal. I understand that this isn't God judging the
animal and condemning it, but nonetheless it always struck me as unfair to

a
creature who is not capable of understanding the law.

----------
An animal that has killed someone is also put to death. In both cases, the
torah commandment is for humans to kill the animal. This is quite different
from the animals' being the recipient of post-death divine retribution from
God, which I believe was the other poster's question.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.


  #97  
Old March 12th 04, 06:06 PM
Cat Protector
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Yes, I have but I do not follow it.

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"Tommy B" wrote in message
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Have you ever heard of the Kabbalah?
Tom



  #98  
Old March 12th 04, 06:06 PM
Cat Protector
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Yes, I have but I do not follow it.

--
Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs!
www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek

Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time!
www.catgalaxymedia.com
"Tommy B" wrote in message
link.net...
Have you ever heard of the Kabbalah?
Tom



  #99  
Old March 12th 04, 06:30 PM
Paul Gold
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"ys" wrote in message .
Sorry. Our Torah says NO to mutilations.



Circumsicion seems like a notable exceptiion to the rule.
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Old March 12th 04, 06:30 PM
Paul Gold
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"ys" wrote in message .
Sorry. Our Torah says NO to mutilations.



Circumsicion seems like a notable exceptiion to the rule.
 




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